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electric masada
by Manolis 02 May '04

02 May '04

I saw El.Mas. last night in Brussels. Quite an intense performance, as always. I really liked the double-drummer assault (plus the percussion). Ikue Mori contributed some nice electronics and Ribot didnt play as much as I remember him playing last time I saw them; my impression is that Saft contributed quite a lot this time. Overal, plenty of frantic moments and with some nice jump-cut parts. Compared to their show in Den Haag last year, this show left me less of a "Miles-Davis-70's" impression and a stronger "game-Zorn" feeling. And it is always so nice when they get back to a familiar masada melody after creating havoc! My problem is that my recollection of the day is the train trip, which lasted four times longer than the show, rather than the concert itself. manolis

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zorn and mori
by Kurt Gottschalk 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

funny, i'm getting digests in all topsy turvey order. anyway, i'll respond a bit more: jan said: >>>Many times i wonder what ikue is doing in the band-her sounds always sound the same, not very creative. you should also understand the sort of community that zorn has talked about being important to him, both in interviews and in conversations i've had with him. zorn and mori's friendship goes back a very long time. jan also said: >>>i've seen [zorn] swearing, hitting glasses of people's faces, so one must always be carefull ;) swearing? incessantly. but i can't imagine zorn hitting someone. i highly doubt it. kg _________________________________________________________________ Mothers Day is May 9. Make it special with great ideas from the Mothers Day Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04mothersday.armx

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RE: electric masada
by Kurt Gottschalk 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

andrew said: >>>wasn't Medeski involved with a few early happenings of Electric Masada? for some reason I've got this in my head..??? absolutely he was. i remember a gig at cbgb's gallery that he played on, in 93 or 94 manolis said: >>>Ribot at the beginning stayed really quite but at half show he begun to play more frenzied(using the tooth playing a la Hendrix and shaking the guitar constantly), not dissing on yer english, just wondering. he played with his teeth or a toothbrush? "playing" with his teeth is kinda showy for ribot, and a pretty easy trick to (tho not as easy as playing behind your head). kg _________________________________________________________________ Lose those love handles! MSN Fitness shows you two moves to slim your waist. http://fitness.msn.com/articles/feeds/article.aspx?dept=exercise&article=et…

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mori and the moon
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

speaking of ikue, can anybody comment on her "100 aspects of the moon"? i'm very curious about it.... martin np. scofield "enroute." sco is blowing my mind on this one, with steve swallow and bill stewart. he's got that tart funky thing going at times, but also spins some long postbop lines (CD starts off with the bop chart "wee").... at least one list member who's opinion i respect doesn't find much to praise in scofield. is that view widely held here?

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(no subject)
by Emmanouil Papagiannakis 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

KG said: <<manolis said: >>>>>>Ribot at the beginning stayed really quite but at half show he begun to play more frenzied(using the tooth playing a la Hendrix and shaking the guitar constantly)>> I think your quoting of me is wrong! Not that I really care, but... manolis

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Re: zorn and mori
by Kurt Gottschalk 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

>>>And the sounds she makes sound easy to create, specially if you use >>>maxmsp or supercollider (great soft!). yeah, elec masada isn't the best place for her, i agree. but i've never been too concerned with how difficult a sound is to make. i'm more interested in what a sound sounds like. kg _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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RE: ikue mori
by Kurt Gottschalk 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

>Does Ikue Mori in fact always sound the same? i was never a fan of ikue when she was just doing drum machine, but as has been said she switched to laptop years ago. all of her sound sources, however, are still her drum machines. she doesn't always sound the same any more than cecil taylor or derek bailey do. she certainly has her own language and is easy to spot, but if you have the opportunity to hear her play often and with many different people (as i'm fortunate enough to), you learn her language. i really think she's one of the best improvisors in new york. kg np: wfmu _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: Ikue Mori - always the same?
by Patrice L. Roussel 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:48:46 -0700 skip heller wrote: > > np: james blood ulmer -- are you glad to be in america Sounds like the right time to dig out this record and play it... Patrice.

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RE: Ikue Mori - always the same?
by ahorton 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

>she has? that's horrific to know. > >ikue mori never sounds the same... but she's probably tired of lugging >all those samplers and pedals around. Mori's been using MAX/MSP on a laptop for years. Does anyone else think that Mori's whole shtick works great on paper, but not in practice? I mean, the idea of using drum machines to make music was great, but instead of using analogue drum synthizers, with their wealth of tonal possibilities, she always used those really horrible, gated-reverb 80's sounding digital drum boxes. andrew

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Brazil experimental music, Kyle Gann interview, Rock/Avant connections
by Perfect Sound Forever 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Greetings, In the latest issue of Perfect Sound Forever <http://www.perfectsoundforever.com>, you'll find (among other things): BRAZIL'S SECRET EXPERIMENTS A Nova Bossa Nova- what lies beyond Tropicalia is yet another wonderfully strange troop of artists and musicians DROR FEILER His extreme art/music - an Israeli ambassador recently destroyed one of Feiler's museum pieces in protest but controversy is no stranger to this artist/musician. KYLE GANN INTERVIEW Modern classical master- after chronicling some of the greatest masters of 20th Century classical music and mused more thoughtful on the genre than just about anyone else, Gann shares his thoughts about his subject matter and his own work as a composer. ROCK & THE AVANT GARDE How they collided in the 90's - an extensive look at the marriage of rock with outre jazz and modern classical music that had been brewing for years and came to a head in the 1990's as seen in Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo, Radiohead and many others. Includes interviews with Chris Cutler, Holger Czukay, Fred Frith, David Grubbs, Paul Lansky, Alan Licht, Steve Reich, Simon Reynolds, Matthew Shipp and David Toop among others and a lengthy discography aided by a number of people here on the Zorn list itself! SEXTANT & DR. M Fusion/techno connections - Herbie Hancock and Matthew Bourne have connections to each other that runs their cover art, sound and textures. We're always looking for good writers and/or ideas so let us know if you have anything to share. See you online, Jason

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