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Re: leading leaders
by Dan Given 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Haven¹t searched my database lately (or updated it), but I will estimate: Definite top: Evan Parker: total about 145 - 150, probably half as leader/coleader, rest as sideman Anthony Braxton: about 125 or more, probably 75% as leader William Parker, more than 100, probably less than 125; most as sideman Then there¹s a group around 60 70, mostly as leaders (Ra and Taylor aren¹t frequent guests!): Sun Ra Cecil Taylor Derek Bailey Charles Mingus T. Monk John Coltrane Peter Brotzmann Han Bennink (few as leader) Below that, a bunch with around 30 or more: Joe McPhee Ornette Coleman Zorn A v Schlippenbach John Stevens As for how much of it is still sealed quite a few but there isn¹t anything I haven¹t heard. Many are things I¹ve heard elsewhere and decided I want to own for future. Right now, I¹ve got more $$ than time, so I look at the shelves as a retirement project.

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RE: uhhh top 10
by ahorton 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

><< 5. starflyer 59- "old" >> > >Now *there's* an interesting inclusion. I just don't get this band. I've even >seen them live three or four times and they just bore me into coma. But I've >heard this album is quite different from their others, yes? They're truly a studio band that should just give up touring. It's as though they try to sabotage both their appeal, and their audience's good time. "Old" is outstanding, because it finds them moving even further away from the shoegazey sound into a more "dark eighties pop" vibe (factory recs, daniel amos, echo and the bunnymen, the church, etc.). andrew

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RE: RE: miles of charles....
by Bernie cc 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

45 Ornette 42 Miles 39 Coltrane Bernie. ----- Mensaje Original ----- Remitente: "Sean Murphy" Sean_Murphy(a)npd.com Destinatario: CuneiWay(a)aol.com, zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Fecha: Lunes, Diciembre 15, 2003 4:37pm Asunto: RE: miles of charles.... >55 miles >48 mingus >44 coltrane > >-----Original Message----- >From: CuneiWay(a)aol.com [mailto:CuneiWay@aol.com] >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:08 PM >To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: miles of charles.... > > >>>> while we're at it, how bout a zornlist poll of which leader you >have the >>>> most albums of and how many? > >I have 34 Charles Mingus CDs and more on lp. That is my clear winner! > >Steve > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the >webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the >webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ¡Wanadoo y Epagado te regalan 3 euros para que se los envies a un amigo, o te los gastes en Internet! Para mas información pincha aquí. http://www.eresmas.com/banners/promo.html?epagado

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leading leaders
by Benito Vergara 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

I'm not going to count, but my guess is: Masami Akita, probably followed by John Zorn and Robert Pollard. Want to hear something pathetic? Don't ask how many of those titles are still *shrinkwrapped.* Later, Ben http://www.thewilyfilipino.com

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Re: leading leaders
by Jeff Caltabiano 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Miles: 96 (CDs & LPs) Coltrane: 76 Although my Ken Vandermark collection inches closer every year.

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RE: miles of charles....
by Sean Murphy 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

55 miles 48 mingus 44 coltrane -----Original Message----- From: CuneiWay(a)aol.com [mailto:CuneiWay@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:08 PM To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: miles of charles.... >>> while we're at it, how bout a zornlist poll of which leader you have the >>> most albums of and how many? I have 34 Charles Mingus CDs and more on lp. That is my clear winner! Steve _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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RE: leading leaders
by Sean Murphy 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

<<He could afford to do this, but his wife just HATED it, so he was always sneaking CDs in and out of his collection. He even rented a climate-controlled storage shed so he could hide another few thousand records from the missus.>> genius. that reminds me of 'beautiful mind', but in a good way. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Selvig [mailto:selvig@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:33 PM To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: leading leaders In my record store days in Santa Fe, we had a regular in our classical department who was a SERIOUS classical collector, and he'd hit our store every other weekend & drop 800 bucks every time. He could afford to do this, but his wife just HATED it, so he was always sneaking CDs in and out of his collection. He even rented a climate-controlled storage shed so he could hide another few thousand records from the missus. And he was really listening to all this, mind you - he could give you a detailed rundown of the merits of, say, 15 different recordings of Bach's Solo Cello Suites. Oh, and I have a co-worker with a monomaniacal record collection w/ about 3,000 Who recordings - doesn't even care about other Pye label bands. -Selvig np: Hank Williams "Long Gone Lonesome Blues: August 1949-December 1950" LP nr: Robert Mason "Solo" At 04:09 PM 12/12/03, Zachary Steiner wrote: >I have a friend who trumps that with 250-ish Miles CDs. Some how he is >happily married with children who love him :) The kids listen to Miles, >too. He got his daughter her own copies of Bitches Brew and On the Corner >before she left for college. > >Zach > >-----Original Message----- >From: zorn-list-bounces+zsteiner=butler.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:zorn-list-bounces+zsteiner=butler.edu@mailman.xmission.com] On >Behalf Of David Slusser >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:22 PM >To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: Re: leading leaders > >while we're at it, how bout a zornlist poll of which leader you have the > > most albums of and how many? for me, that would be miles, although i'd > > need > > to go home and make a count to tell you how many. dozens. > >Duke Ellington by a landslide - 156 CDs, 42 lps (some overlap) > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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RE: leading leaders
by Andreas Dietz 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

this question interested me years ago and I made a database query (not only leadership but appearances): 1 MARC RIBOT 2 JOHN ZORN 3 FRED FRITH 4 BILL FRISELL 5 SUN RA 6 DON CHERRY 7 ANTHONY BRAXTON 8 JOHN GILMORE 9 MARSHALL ALLEN 10 DAVID MURRAY 11 JOEY BARON 12 LESTER BOWIE 13 JOHN COLTRANE 14 MILES DAVIS 15 FRED HOPKINS 16 CHARLIE HADEN ROSCOE MITCHELL 18 BILL LASWELL ELLIOTT SHARP MARTY EHRLICH Andreas np: Sun Ra w/ Pharoah Sanders (Saturn) _________________________________________________________________ 5 neue Buddies = 50 FreeSMS. http://messenger-mania.msn.de Messenger-Mania - FreeSMS abrÃ¤umen mit dem MSN Messenger!

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RE: (off topic): obscure Beefheart?
by Bernie cc 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

I've got this track in "The early years 1959-1969" or in "If you got ears" bootleg. I think it was composed by Howlin' Wolf, one of Beefheart's most evident influences. The background sound comes from heavy machinery in a factory, such as big anvils. Btw, it's really a very god blues. Bernie. -- [beefheart(a)eresmas.com] -- ----- Mensaje Original ----- Remitente: "jim & nika" ultimatefrog(a)comcast.net Destinatario: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Fecha: Domingo, Diciembre 14, 2003 6:31am Asunto: (off topic): obscure Beefheart? > > >This afternoon I discovered an oddity among my old 45's: a promo >copy of >"Hard Working Man" w/Capt. Beefheart on vocals. It was apparently >fromthe score of "Blue Collar" (1978) and the credits list Jack >Nitzsche, Ry >Cooder and Paul Schrader as the writers. > >Could anyone shed some light on this disc or what led to such a >fortuitousgrouping? > >jm > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the >webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ¡Wanadoo y Epagado te regalan 3 euros para que se los envies a un amigo, o te los gastes en Internet! Para mas información pincha aquí. http://www.eresmas.com/banners/promo.html?epagado

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Macedonian Stuff!!!
by igor balac 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Hallo Everyone, I just recieved an Xmas present from my dear good friends from Eastern Europe! It's some kind of music box that contains some cd's of "Anastasia" that did the music for Milcho Manchevski's "Before the Rain"; two great cd's of "DD Synthesis", "Mizar", "Lola v Stain", Vanja Lazarova and Ivo Papasov. It is all like Tzadik stuf but more raw and authentic etno project. Still, I think it's most beautiful music I've ever heard next to "Bar Kokhba" and "Issachar"! For more info, check: www.ddsynthesis.com.mk or www.anastasia.com.mk Greetings I. _________________________________________________________________ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/

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