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RE: Ikue Mori / Selling Stuff
by Manolis 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>>"Painted Desert" (which I find extremely boring despite the amazing >lineup). >## yeah i was disappointed too, thought it would 'evolve more as the >record went on.... still great tones from those 2! Am I the only one to like this record? I find its ambience great, plus it is a cool album to listen to when people are around. And the guitar sound is so great! manolis

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Fw: Buck Jam Tonic
by Jan-wen Lu 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Any information about the Buck Jam Tonic project of John Zorn, Bill Laswell and Tatsuya Nakamura? Their double CD set was released in July, 2003. Since I've never heard anything about this project from zorn-list. Thanks!! Jan-wen Lu

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Public experiments in sound using Coltrane's music
by Craig Lieske 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

One of the recent posts concerned Coltrane's "Love Supreme" solos being too much for a standard record store patron to take. I remember buying that record on recommendation when I was about 20. This was in 1984- the record store still had only a limited numberr of Cd's available, so I went for the vinyl. The clerk looked at me when I came to the register and said, "This is some far-out shit, I'm not sure you'll like it." I bought it anyway and went from there on to a party at a friend's house. Since this was summer, and I am living in Georgia, I take the records in to the party so they don't melt in the car. My friends ask me what I bought and I showed them. I should add that the bunch of friends at this party were all confirmed Metallica and Pink Floyd fans. They asked me to play the record and I demurred, saying that they wouldn't be interested because none of them liked jazz, but they insisted, so I put the record on. Once the music started playing all conversation ceased, no one said a word until Side 1 was over. The silence was broken by my host vociferously ordering me to flip the record over immediately. So I did, and again nothing was said until the record had ended. Most of the people in that room went and bought the record shortly thereafter. For most of them, A Love Supreme is probably the only true jazz record they will ever own. Another story concerns the convenience store I worked at during college. The store owner let me play music in the store, and didn't seem to care what I played. I began experimenting by playing all kinds of music, and seeing people's reactions to it in the store. I mean, I played the first Black Sabbath record one morning at 6 AM! Nobody said a word, though. One Friday evening around rush hour, I got the devilish idea to play John Coltrane's "Om". I put it on and the rush hit. People were forced to stand in line and listen to 8 middle aged jazz guys take acid and try to play music! I saw one country type fellow beginning to turn red, he started pacing nervously, and then once his turn to pay came, shouted at me, "I hate your music!" threw his money down and literally ran out the door. Not the nicest thing I ever did, but one evening a guy came in, stopped cold, looked at me with incredulity and exclaimed "Sonny Sharrock!" We've been close friends ever since so I guess my experiments weren't entirely negative. I managed a Sam Goody for a while and got serious complaints for playing "Guts Of A Virgin" in the store once. Those people deserved it, though.... One thing I did notice, however, is that most people that I came into contact with stated they liked the fact that I played different music in the store, and this made them more interested in seeking different kinds of music out. So if you are trying to come to grips with the ethical question of airing the Merzbox while grinding through your shift at Barnes & Noble or wherever you are working, I say, go for it, your public will appreciate you all that much more! Craig L _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx

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New @ The Squid's Ear - December 18, 2003 Live Reviews
by zampino 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

NEW @ THE SQUID'S EAR <http://www.squidsear.com> Lester Bowie When the Spirit Returns (Dreyfuss Jazz) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=337> Anthony Braxton Solo (Milano) 1979 (Leo Golden Years) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=336> Jane Ira Bloom Chasing Paint (Arabesque) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=335> Fred Fried When Winter Comes (Ballet Tree) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=334> Andrea Neumann/Michael Renkel/Olaf Rupp/Serge Baghdassiarians Berlin Strings (Absinthe) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=333> Beehive and the Barracudas / CVA / Hella / The Husbands / Friends Forever / Sightings / These Arms are Snakes <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=332> Morton Feldman - Triadic Memories (Long Arms); Morton Feldman - Late Works with Clarinet (Mode) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=331> Fred Hersch Trio Live at the Village Vanguard (Palmetto) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=330> Various Artists Greek Oriental Rebetika (Arhoolie) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=329> Devorah Day Light of Day (Abaton Books) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=328> Borah Bergman & Thomas Chapin Toronto 1997 (Boxholder) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=327> Shoko Hikage/Jonathan Segel - GEN; Fred Frith/Joelle Leandre/Jonathan - Tempted to Smile (Spool) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=326> Brett Larner/Joelle Leandre/Kazuhisa Uchihashi No Day Rising (Spool) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=325> Will Gaines & Derek Bailey - Rappin & Tappin; Limescale - Limescale (Incus) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=324> Loren Connors The Departing of a Dream Vol. II (Family Vineyard) <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=322> The Rogers Sisters/The Ex (Knitting Factory) September 9, 2003 <http://www.squidsear.com/a.cgi?a=323>

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stolen music
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

some great anecdotes on the list lately, espcially the "love supreme" with georgia metalheads and some of the CD store tales.... my old volvo threw a rod i was driving with two friends from san diego to L.A. to see the original ornette quartet (w/ higgins) in the late '80s ( a note on the door said cherry was having dental problems, so it would be a trio set). remarkably the car not only made it there, but started up and made it home. and the next morning, nearly made it to the corner where people parked their cars to sell (i went to see what i could buy quick and cheap). when i returned with the junkyard tow truck to get my car the next day, the window was smashed in, the tape deck torn out and a box of tapes gone. this was near an illegal immigrant encampment in the fields and at least i got a kick out of imaging those boys listening to the ornette trio in stockholm. (unfortunately, i also lost a great live radio recording of tom waits, late '70s, san diego -- a show i attended. of dozens and dozens of waits traders and concert CDs out there, i've never been able to track this one down again.) happy holidays, martin

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FW: [laswell] New Laswell item will be on Avant label, not Tzadik
by SELC - Andrew Mortensen 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

good to see Avant is still going.... -----Original Message----- From: mannylunchx(a)hotmail.com [mailto:mannylunchx@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 9:24 PM To: laswell(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [laswell] New Laswell item will be on Avant label, not Tzadik the BILL LASWELL VS. SUBMERGED - FOLLOWERS OF A BRUTAL CALLING previously thought to be being released by Tzadik [the US label curated by John Zorn] near the end of 2003 Is actually to come out on the Avant label [the Japanese label curated by John Zorn] whose last releases occurred in 2000 [Wayne Horvitz - From A Window and Vivian Sisters] As Bill has only just delivered the masters this week, don't expect release of this till at least April - more likely June - 2004! [Jurgen and Watcher: Update!]

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You will regret selling music!!
by Will Sarginson 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

If there is one thing I have learned, it is not to sell ANY music at all! I sold alot of stuff years ago, thinking that I wouldnt ever listen to it again. How wrong I was, and have since bought some of the albums again on Cd........I will never do it again, no matter how cluttered and overgrown my music collection becomes! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

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Noah Howard: "Patterns"
by Gullasch Baronen 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Hey! Taking someones suggestion, I've been checking up on Noah Howard's "Patterns" and it certainly looks interesting, judging from the lineup. But is it another freejazz overkill or something more, eh, structured? I don't think I need to many more 60s/70s Brotzmann style records... _________________________________________________________________ Få alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk

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Otomo/Laswell/Yoshigaki "Soup"
by Gullasch Baronen 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>You can contact Yoshiyuki Suzuki of "Improvised Music from Japan". >He just informed me that he has a lot of copies of the new I.S.O. CD. >Of course, he also has the Otomo/Laswell/Yoshigaki "Soup" CD. How is Otomo/Laswell/Yoshigaki's "Soup"? It's a pretty interesting lineup... _________________________________________________________________ Få alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk

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Otomo / Laswell / Yoshigaki
by Philip Clarksoon 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

What is the Otomo / Laswell / Yoshigaki "Soup" CD? Is it new? Thanks Phil Clarkson > Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:55:40 +0800 > From: "Jan-wen Lu" <janwen.lu(a)msa.hinet.net> > Subject: Re: New ISO > > You can contact Yoshiyuki Suzuki of "Improvised Music from Japan". > He just informed me that he has a lot of copies of the new I.S.O. CD. > Of course, he also has the Otomo/Laswell/Yoshigaki "Soup" CD. > > Jan-wen Lu

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