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Re: "Stone, Brick, Glass, Wood, Wire".
by florid oratory 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

As i understand it, the Frith CD is made of compostions based on photographs he has taken, depicting the items mentioned in the CD's title. The photos were "graphic scores", in essence. He used some of them in his first workshop at Mills College in 1998. --GC > > Message: 13 > From: "Andreas Dietz" <andreasdietz(a)hotmail.com> > > > there is a double CD by Fred Frith called "Stone, Brick, Glass, Wood, Wire". > Don´t know if there is any connection to this film. > > Andreas > >> From: Fastian(a)aol.com >> >> I saw the film "Rivers And Tides" a couple of weeks ago.

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Re: ESP
by florid oratory 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Y'all oughta take a look at the Francis Paudras book about Bud Powell , entitled "Dance Of The Infidels", for Paudras's perspective on Stollman's character. and those Sun Ra concerts are circulating widely among traders. --GC > From: zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > But... Stollman does have access to hundreds of hours of live Sun Ra from > the seventies, so called soundboard recordings. I don't know if he's still > busy finding an outlet for that. When the Dutch Deal was starting of well, > he talked about releasing them -in the long term- on ESP Calibre. Of course, > nothing came of that. > > Regards, Remco >

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Fwd: Re[2]: Tzadik pricing
by Efrén del Valle 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

> SF> Was it also not the case that the business idea > behind Tzadik was > SF> fifty percent of the profits to the label, fifty > percent to the > SF> respective artists? I recall hearing that > somewhere.... Probably on the Beresford-hosted BBC Radio Special. Zorn said that the budget for every Tzadik release is the same (USD5,000) regardless of the number of musicians involved in the recording, and then they split profits. Could perfectly be on a 50/50 basis. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle n.p: Dave Douglas "The Infinite" (BMG) _______________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Nueva versiÃ³n: Webcam, voz, y mucho mÃ¡s Â¡Gratis! DescÃ¡rgalo ya desde http://es.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: 4 track recorder
by Chris Selvig 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

I don't see any ethical problem with making a mix tape, if that's what you mean, but 4-track cassettes don't come off well when played back on stereo cassette players, since two of the tracks play backwards. At 09:04 AM 7/30/2002 -0500, Kasra George Ahmadi wrote: >Okay so I'm gonna ask this just cause I want the answer right now. Is it >posh (or might I even say ethical) to make a mix tape on a 4 track recorder. >I don't see the problem. Does any body else? > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list Chris Selvig

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RE: what me worry
by kevin.by 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

sometimes i'm amazed at what actually sells in decent quantas. like here in little Norway, in Oslo alone (our capital) the Thrones (an ex-melvins one man band) have sold 20 copys. that's pretty good for a band playing weird sloooow n' heavy guitar-drones. is the black box still in print over at Tzadik.com? >===== Original Message From "Remco Takken" <r.takken(a)planet.nl> ===== >> I'm not not one of these people who believes that if millions of people >> were exposed to John Zorn then millions of people would like John Zorn. >You >> could advertise it all you want, but TORTURE GARDEN is not meant for >> everybody. >But there IS a market for it, be it not as huge as the big labels wuld want >them to be. I figure 35,000 is a big amount of records (Bar Khokba) when you >consider it's only one title in this huge catalogue of Zorn and related >musics. Torture Garden has to concur with all of the similar records out of >Tzadik and Avant, let alone other people working in this fringe of noise/ >metal and improv. > >There's just so much of this stuff, it comes close to Eugene Chadbournes >remark of the one guy selling a million records (Michael Jackson f.i.) >opposed to the guy selling one record each, of a million different titles. >But all in all, jazz record markets being only a few percents of the whole >music buying audience, it stays relatively small. > >Remco > >Doesn't make it bad. Just makes it designed for a more >> specialized audience. It's a miracle that records like that can get in >> print and stay in print, and I'm thankful for that. American corporations >> might be making vertain kinds of artists relatively unavoidable in terms >of >> hearing their music -- Norah Jones leaps to mind at the moment -- but this >> has doesn't mean I think she's the only game in town. It's my money, it's >> up to me. >> >> skip h >> >> np: janis siegel -- i wish you love >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> zorn-list mailing list >> zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage >below >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list >> >> ================================================================ >> Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd >op virussen. >> Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst >waar op wordt gecontroleerd. > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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ESP Re-issues
by David John Howarth 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

Hi Folks In response to the comments re the current ESP re-issues coming out of Italy; what if any light is thrown on the matter of legality when The Wire Bible, sorry magazine, gave out a sampler to subscribers with their July issue? For that matter wither the morals of The Wire editorial team? Is it just a case of "It's legal in Italy so that's alright?" Do we know that living performers or families of deceased have been contacted? As someone (sorry!) said in the thread, its behaviour you expect from the major's, but it grinds our nads when a "worthy" indie pulls the trick! All a matter of perception I guess. Best Dave in London

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Re: Downtown 81/ Rivers and Tides
by Kurt Gottschalk 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

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ESP REISSUES
by David John Howarth 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

Hi Folks In response to the comments re the current ESP re-issues coming out of Italy; what if any light is thrown on the matter of legality when The Wire Bible, sorry magazine, gave out a sampler to subscribers with their July issue? For that matter wither the morals of The Wire editorial team? Is it just a case of "It's legal in Italy so that's alright?" Do we know that living performers or families of deceased have been contacted? As someone (sorry!) said in the thread, its behaviour you expect from the major's, but it grinds our nads when a "worthy" indie pulls the trick! All a matter of perception I guess. Best Dave in London

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by David John Howarth 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

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Re: ESP [(no Zorn content)]
by Steve Smith 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

Ken: This all happened when I was working at Koch International, which distributes Smithsonian Folkways. It was my understanding, from the guy who was running Folkways at the time, that a deal had indeed been tendered to Stollman. The fact that the Folkways guy was carrying around a ring binder containing all of the ESP CD reissues done by XYZ Germany led me to believe that things were happening. So in a sense, it's hearsay, but it's certainly *enlightened* hearsay. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Art Ensemble of Chicago, "Reese and the Smooth Ones, Part 1," 'Reese and the Smooth Ones' (ESP/Sunspots) - caveat emptor: major vinyl swish during the first 60-90 second of this new CD reissue and minor clicks and pops throughout...vital music, nonetheless. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Ken Waxman <mingusaum(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: Steve: I'm not party to anything inside that happens in the big US music biz, but was Stollman really made an offer? I heard about it at the time, but stories about deals are always floating around and some never come to fruition. If Stollman got a dollar offer and turned it down -- and he's often maintained that his ex-wife got the ESP rights as part of the divorce settlement -- then that's too bad. But if it was just someone from the Smithsonian Institute suggesting that they do a deal, or a floating rumor that maybe it should be done ... Anyways if that happened and he found out about it, John Ashcroft may have launched an investigation into why an institution so close to his office was paying money for this subversive stuff. regards, Ken Waxman --- Steve Smith <ssmith36(a)sprynet.com> wrote: > Not that it would have helped Remco, but just > imagine how different things > might be now if Stollman had accepted the offer for > the entire ESP catalog > offered to him by the Smithsonian Institute on > behalf of the Folkways label, > just prior to his making the deal with Calibre. ===== Ken Waxman mingusaum(a)yahoo.ca www.jazzword.com - Jazz/improv news, CD reviews and photos ______________________________________________________________________ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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