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Re: Funny Games/Kenneth Anger
by john schuller 17 May '02

17 May '02

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Re: Funny Games/Kenneth Anger
by wlt4＠mindspring.com 17 May '02

17 May '02

>playing and fooling around with the viewers >expectation of a (violent) film. The treatment >of violence is a new one i think, But Funny Games actually is a violent film: nearly everybody who appears on-screen dies from violence. Much of this violence takes place offscreen but despite claims in many reviews there's a good amount explicitly shown onscreen. Offscreen portrayal of violence is of course nothing new but what Haenke did was make viewers aware of his choice *as a choice*. Fritz Lang for instance often chose to have violence offscreen as have numerous other directors but they aren't given credit for that. In fact much of the violence in Reservoir Dogs occurs offscreen; it's the effects that are thrown in our faces. Funny Games seems to me a dishonest film because it's basically a genre film (there were piles of these home invasion/terrorized bourgeois films made in Europe during the 70s) that tries to justify itself with "good for you" tricks like the use of offscreen space and characters addressing the audience. Same thing with many mondo documentaries that claim to be objective or eve! n critical but in fact are just excuses to show all sorts of weird things.

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RE: Attack of the Clones (non Zorn)
by Downard, Peter 17 May '02

17 May '02

Please unsubscribe me. Thanks > ---------- > From: Kasra George Ahmadi[SMTP:gahmadi@housing.ou.edu] > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:05 PM > To: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Attack of the Clones (non Zorn) > > Would anybody know of any place online that offers tickets for local > theaters? > kga > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zachary Steiner [mailto:zsteiner@butler.edu] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:02 PM > To: ssmith36(a)sprynet.com; SonataPathetique(a)aol.com; > zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Attack of the Clones (non Zorn) > > > >> the CGI looks artificial (I'd say the same of the much-ballyhooed > 'Spider-Man') > > Really!?! I thought that the CGI in Spiderman was some of the most > realistic that I've seen. It seemed that this was achieved by a > combination of factors including possessing very high quality graphics, > accurate movement, editing, and the textures that were used (Spiderman > looked almost real because of the texture of his costume, Goblin not as > much). There were times where I forgot that I was seeing CGI. It was > very well integrated with the live action, seamlessly blended from my > estimation. > > Zach > > > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list >

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Re: Funny Games/Kenneth Anger
by wlt4＠mindspring.com 17 May '02

17 May '02

>Also, anyone know if any of the films of Kenneth >Anger are available on DVD yet? Coming soon from Fantoma. For contrary views on Funny Games check the reviews by J. Hoberman and Jonathan Rosenbaum who thought it was "fascist." I didn't quite follow the argument but thought the film was superficial.

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Kenneth Anger DVD
by Tosh 17 May '02

17 May '02

Sadly there are no Anger films on DVD. There was talk that were plans to do so, but at this point nothing else was heard. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com

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Funny Games/Kenneth Anger
by Michael Brooker 17 May '02

17 May '02

Hello- Not sure of this has already been discussed, but I'm curious about others thoughts of the film Funny Games. I rented the DVD last night, and found it pretty clever, although not as intense as most. I'm assuming that the soundtrack with Zorn listed is from Naked City? Also, anyone know if any of the films of Kenneth Anger are available on DVD yet? I know they should still all be available from Mystic Fire, maybe..... Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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Fwd: Dave Douglas New Quintet
by Efrén del Valle 17 May '02

17 May '02

Hi Jorge, Glad to see another Spanish member on the list. We're a handful yet! I wouldn't miss it. Although the New Quintet is nothing that groundbreaking, it sounds really good. It's deeply Miles-influenced but I enjoyed it. Not as much as "Witness" but a delightful album anyway. Electric Davis all over if that's inviting to you. I don't think the San Sebastian concerts will be too expensive and Bennink and Mengelberg are not seen too often here as you know. What else can I say about Tiny Bell? BTW, Cecil Taylor is not finally attending. A pity. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle > > Hello, > > I'm thinking of going to see Dave Douglas at San > Sebastian this > summer but I've never heard anything from the New > Quintet. I've > seen Tiny bells trio and also Witness live and I > love them both. > Also I love the Charms of the Night Sky CD. So, what > can I expect > from the New Quintet and from the other concert he's > giving? (with > Mengelberg, Jones, Bennink) I think I'll go see all > three concerts > but I still don't about how expensive the concerts > are so... > > Also, if anyone knows where/how to get scores > from Masada and > other Zorn or Dave Douglas music, it'd be a great > help. > > Thanks! > > -Jorge > /----*----+-| trozo(a)makasoft.net > |---------------------\ > | ******* | ESPABILA > CHAVAL!! | > | *** | > http://www.makasoft.net | > \--*---*--+--------------------------------------------/ > > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger ComunicaciÃ³n instantÃ¡nea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es

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Dave Douglas New Quintet
by trozo 17 May '02

17 May '02

Hello, I'm thinking of going to see Dave Douglas at San Sebastian this summer but I've never heard anything from the New Quintet. I've seen Tiny bells trio and also Witness live and I love them both. Also I love the Charms of the Night Sky CD. So, what can I expect from the New Quintet and from the other concert he's giving? (with Mengelberg, Jones, Bennink) I think I'll go see all three concerts but I still don't about how expensive the concerts are so... Also, if anyone knows where/how to get scores from Masada and other Zorn or Dave Douglas music, it'd be a great help. Thanks! -Jorge /----*----+-| trozo(a)makasoft.net |---------------------\ | ******* | ESPABILA CHAVAL!! | | *** | http://www.makasoft.net | \--*---*--+--------------------------------------------/

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ZORN-LIST ADMIN part 3: welcome message and passwords
by Mike Rizzi 17 May '02

17 May '02

WELCOME ABOUT THE MESSAGE Looks like some folks didn't get their Welcome message (I did, so I assumed everyone else did as well. weird). YOUR PASSWORD In order to get your password, go to the new zorn-list web page http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list Enter your email address under the "Options for the zorn-list" heading and press the Edit Options button. At that point, under the "Your zorn-list Password" heading press the button titled "Email My Password to Me" DIGESTS Also, some folks have asked what the digest mode is. You can receive individual emails from list members one at a time as they are sent (normal mode) or you can receive in batchs known as digests. LIST ADMINISTRATION With Mailman YOU are now even more responsible for subscribing and unsubscribing yourself, which you should do from the above listed web page. NOTE: the URL for the list is included in the header of EVERY SINGLE email sent out by the Mailman list software, in case you have misplaced it. Unfortunately, it looks like Mailmans ability to keep administrative requests from going out to the entire zorn-list is weaker than majordomo. Sooooo...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT send requests like "take me off this list" to all 700 members of the mailing list. QUESTIONS Any other questions? mike

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re: tolstoy
by SonataPathetique＠aol.com 17 May '02

17 May '02

The only thing I have read by Tolstoy is the Death of Ivan Ilyich but I loved it and highly recommend it. Seth

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