Hello. How those Mounted by the Gods loops should be syncronized? The loops are of different lengths and thus there are caps. Are they intentional? Do you find any problems in using the loops? Is the tempo 120? Can you show me a screenshot of an arranger showing how the loops fits together? (Boris, are you there? :-) -*- By the way, I found a problem in Motion Picture: at 5:02 from the start of the CD (on second track). An audiofile is available in the following ftp directory: ftp.funet.fi/pub/culture/music/western/Yello/ Best regards, Juhana
Hi Juhana, I just wonder...how did you get the Mounted By The Gods samples/loops? I think the only way to synchronize them is to shorten or lenghten them so that they fit together :-(....the only solution I have got to so far. Chris "Another Friday night...."
You're right or maybe try another frequency to play it at the good tempo you want to ... -----Message d'origine----- De : yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] De la part de The Warlock Envoyé : lundi 19 mai 2003 18:07 À : The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful. Objet : Re: [Yello] Mounted by the Gods Hi Juhana, I just wonder...how did you get the Mounted By The Gods samples/loops? I think the only way to synchronize them is to shorten or lenghten them so that they fit together :-(....the only solution I have got to so far. Chris "Another Friday night...." _______________________________________________ Yello mailing list Yello@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello
Hey! All this talk about samples... In my years of working with samples and tuning them for use, I came to good results with software packages like: Soundforge = the obvious choice. current version 6. The time stretching and simply cutting and pasting of the intervals in the sample can give usable results. Futher more there is Sonar from the Cakewalk studio's. This would be the best choice if you're not into doing the hard work yourself. Place the reference sample loop on one track and the to be edited on the second track. Now with the Sonar looping tools the sample can be cut/dittered and reshaped to fit exactly the reference sample loop. I used Sonar to remix a rockband who had a drummer during their demo recordings who... well.. could keep up the beat. And so I re-synced the pore guy's work with sonar. A mayor job but the results were that good that it still had the real life drum feel and not a steady drumcomputer like pace. Hope this will help ya out. Rene ----- Original Message ----- From: "VIALLE Grégory" <gvialle@evc.net> To: "'The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful.'" <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: RE : [Yello] Mounted by the Gods You're right or maybe try another frequency to play it at the good tempo you want to ... -----Message d'origine----- De : yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] De la part de The Warlock Envoyé : lundi 19 mai 2003 18:07 à : The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful. Objet : Re: [Yello] Mounted by the Gods Hi Juhana, I just wonder...how did you get the Mounted By The Gods samples/loops? I think the only way to synchronize them is to shorten or lenghten them so that they fit together :-(....the only solution I have got to so far. Chris "Another Friday night...." _______________________________________________ Yello mailing list Yello@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello _______________________________________________ Yello mailing list Yello@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello
I ment that the drummer couldn't keep keep rhythm...
Hey!
All this talk about samples...
In my years of working with samples and tuning them for use, I came to good results with software packages like:
Soundforge = the obvious choice. current version 6.
The time stretching and simply cutting and pasting of the intervals in the sample can give usable results.
Futher more there is Sonar from the Cakewalk studio's. This would be the best choice if you're not into doing the hard work yourself.
Place the reference sample loop on one track and the to be edited on the second track. Now with the Sonar looping tools the sample can be cut/dittered and reshaped to fit exactly the reference sample loop.
I used Sonar to remix a rockband who had a drummer during their demo recordings who... well.. could keep up the beat. And so I re-synced the pore guy's work with sonar. A mayor job but the results were that good that it still had the real life drum feel and not a steady drumcomputer like pace.
Hope this will help ya out.
Rene
----- Original Message ----- From: "VIALLE Grégory" <gvialle@evc.net> To: "'The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful.'" <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: RE : [Yello] Mounted by the Gods
You're right or maybe try another frequency to play it at the good tempo you want to ...
-----Message d'origine----- De : yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] De la part de The Warlock Envoyé : lundi 19 mai 2003 18:07 à : The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful. Objet : Re: [Yello] Mounted by the Gods
Hi Juhana,
I just wonder...how did you get the Mounted By The Gods samples/loops?
I think the only way to synchronize them is to shorten or lenghten them so that they fit together :-(....the only solution I have got to so far.
Chris
"Another Friday night...."
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I'm a Logic user... Is sonar similar to Recycle? Is it just a simple with the same kind of tools? J On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 01:51 PM, Rene wrote:
Hey!
All this talk about samples...
In my years of working with samples and tuning them for use, I came to good results with software packages like:
Soundforge = the obvious choice. current version 6.
The time stretching and simply cutting and pasting of the intervals in the sample can give usable results.
Futher more there is Sonar from the Cakewalk studio's. This would be the best choice if you're not into doing the hard work yourself.
Place the reference sample loop on one track and the to be edited on the second track. Now with the Sonar looping tools the sample can be cut/dittered and reshaped to fit exactly the reference sample loop.
I used Sonar to remix a rockband who had a drummer during their demo recordings who... well.. could keep up the beat. And so I re-synced the pore guy's work with sonar. A mayor job but the results were that good that it still had the real life drum feel and not a steady drumcomputer like pace.
Hope this will help ya out.
Rene
----- Original Message ----- From: "VIALLE Grégory" <gvialle@evc.net> To: "'The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful.'" <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: RE : [Yello] Mounted by the Gods
You're right or maybe try another frequency to play it at the good tempo you want to ...
-----Message d'origine----- De : yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] De la part de The Warlock Envoyé : lundi 19 mai 2003 18:07 À : The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful. Objet : Re: [Yello] Mounted by the Gods
Hi Juhana,
I just wonder...how did you get the Mounted By The Gods samples/loops?
I think the only way to synchronize them is to shorten or lenghten them so that they fit together :-(....the only solution I have got to so far.
Chris
"Another Friday night...."
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Hi Julian, Sonar is the folow-up to Cakewalk or Cubase Like program. It features Audio and Midi tracks. But!!!!!... The audio track support has some very interesting features. I discovered the usefulnes of them during the remix sessions. For example: For a guy who wnated to go solo on stage I also remixed a couple of his tracks to give them a sort of oldschool hiphop flavour. At first I was programming my drummachines, but then I took a bunch of my own sampled loops (with different bpm's) and added them to the other tracks in Sonar. Sonar detectets automatically (near to perfect, but not yet there) the measure and tempo of the loops. In an instand I had constructed a session with various loops which made it easier for me to decide what would best fit the song. I've never worked with Re-Cycle appart form a very old beta/demo release. So I can't give you any comments on that. For resampling tempo and such of loops, I now always tend to turn to Sonar. I set the bpms of the master song, add the loop I need to be altered. Have Sonar locate the measures in the loop and adjust to my preferences. Then I can export the adjusted loop to a WAV file and use it in other programs or sampling devices. I wrote to Soundforge about this and told them to give some more attention to a feature like this in their software. I got liitle reply, but in the end, the stated that their program ACID loops. could also do it. Not true. At least not in the easy and simple way one can achieve ones goal in Sonar. - However. Although the resampling and re-timing (not stretching) of drum and bass samples works very fine, there are ofcourse some difficulties with voice/singing samples. But that's something one has to pay some attention to while adjustng the samples. There is a live playback during the editing of the timing and so one can fiddle around with it until it is good or just as best as possible. - Sonar itself is a odd program when one is used to Cakewalk, logic or Cubase. But it's more the interfacing than how it works. I started out with the pro24 on Atari machines and became then used to Cakewalk. Sonar seemed a good upgrade from Cakewalk Pro, but in a hurry as always I fall back to CWalk 9. - Have a look at www.cakewalk.com for some more info. - Rene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Kovalsky" <julzmon@mac.com> To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Yello] Mounted by the Gods I'm a Logic user... Is sonar similar to Recycle? Is it just a simple with the same kind of tools? J On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 01:51 PM, Rene wrote:
Hey!
All this talk about samples...
In my years of working with samples and tuning them for use, I came to good results with software packages like:
Soundforge = the obvious choice. current version 6.
The time stretching and simply cutting and pasting of the intervals in the sample can give usable results.
Futher more there is Sonar from the Cakewalk studio's. This would be the best choice if you're not into doing the hard work yourself.
Place the reference sample loop on one track and the to be edited on the second track. Now with the Sonar looping tools the sample can be cut/dittered and reshaped to fit exactly the reference sample loop.
I used Sonar to remix a rockband who had a drummer during their demo recordings who... well.. could keep up the beat. And so I re-synced the pore guy's work with sonar. A mayor job but the results were that good that it still had the real life drum feel and not a steady drumcomputer like pace.
Hope this will help ya out.
Rene
----- Original Message ----- From: "VIALLE Grégory" <gvialle@evc.net> To: "'The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful.'" <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: RE : [Yello] Mounted by the Gods
You're right or maybe try another frequency to play it at the good tempo you want to ...
-----Message d'origine----- De : yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:yello-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] De la part de The Warlock Envoyé : lundi 19 mai 2003 18:07 à : The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful. Objet : Re: [Yello] Mounted by the Gods
Hi Juhana,
I just wonder...how did you get the Mounted By The Gods samples/loops?
I think the only way to synchronize them is to shorten or lenghten them so that they fit together :-(....the only solution I have got to so far.
Chris
"Another Friday night...."
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Julian, I just had a look at cakewalk demo's myself. They have disabled the discussed feateres in the the Sonar 2.2 demo version. Bugger!! Pitty. - Rene
Hi All. Remember when I talked about my own interpertation of Yello sounds...? Well for who are interested, I've included a link to a mp3 file. It's a song that started out of boredome, and a question... What to do with my shitload of Yello samples. Real Yello fans will know what I knicked and what not. This song wasn't intended to be a sort of Hands on Yello or even atribute to Yello. It just was there after some hours and I like it just for the pure fun of having made it. it's about 2 megs big. Kept the quality high because of all the horn and brush samples I used. And, very important, it has nothing to do with house or whatever, which is in my oppinion the easiest way to make a catchy song that has hitparade potential when it's the kids of today between 12 and 16 who seem to decide what's good music or not. www.art-ist.nl/ewa/ewa_swing.mp3 Rene
I think you managed to capture the spit of YELLO in your cover. Quite nice. Julz
www.art-ist.nl/ewa/ewa_swing.mp3
Rene
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Thanks Julian, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian" <julzmon@mac.com> To: <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Yello] Yello Cover
I think you managed to capture the spit of YELLO in your cover. Quite nice.
Julz
www.art-ist.nl/ewa/ewa_swing.mp3
Rene
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I've done a mix with some S.A.X. samples if some are interested in ... http://www.gr3g.net/zic/gr3g-saxON.swf Just a demo version, I have to finish it ;) I'll be happy to know what is your impression on it... GREG
Hi Greg, Your remix sounds very good, but could you change the format into mp3 or something? Right now I only have ISDN and with this format I cant pause the playing or see the download progress. I would very much like to hear the whole song, so if you could fix that it would be great. Chris "Got the rythm in my bone, listen to my saxophone"
Hi Chris and other, Thank you for your congrats... You can found my remix of S.A.X. in mp3 at this adress : http://www.gr3g.net/zic/ the file is called Gr3g-SaxOn.mp3 you can have stream of it with file Gr3g-SaxOn.swf Regards, GREG
Hi Greg, Your remix sounds very good, but could you change the format into mp3 or something? Right now I only have ISDN and with this format I cant pause the playing or see the download progress. I would very much like to hear the whole song, so if you could fix that it would be great. Chris "Got the rythm in my bone, listen to my saxophone"
I think you managed to capture the spit of YELLO in your cover. Quite nice. Julz
www.art-ist.nl/ewa/ewa_swing.mp3
Rene
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Juhana Sadeharju -
Julian -
Julian Kovalsky
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Rene -
The Warlock -
VIALLE Grégory