Klonk Sun, 6 Jul 2003 01:13:51 -0700 veschprigt mroktar Julian <julzmon@mac.com> [re: Re: yello ftp]:
On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 01:05 AM, organism@hydrophilus.com wrote:
TO THE LIST ONLY.
this is why i emailed you directly I don't want my email or name associated with the ftp server for the entire internet please make an exception
i would still appreciate an account.
It is inappropriate for you to request special treatment. I appreciate your unvoiced concerns for privacy as a stopgap against the acts of the SchutzStaffeln, d.b.a. "R.I.A.A." / "M.P.A.A.". That notwithstanding, we the denizens of the yello list are all in the same waters together, enjoying for a time wonderful access to previousyly un-heard music, and even some heretofore unseen video material [which was in one instance rather lovingly crafted from munged source by the inimitable Rene]. You are asking to enjoy the fruits without engaging in any of whatever risks may possibly exist. That is not acceptable to me, and I would wager that it is not acceptable to the bulk of the other participants. I have, as you can see, CC'd this to the list. Swim, or stay out of the pool. --gcr
Thanks. I really appreciate this. Speechless... Julian Kovalsky On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 01:47 PM, organism@hydrophilus.com wrote:
Klonk Sun, 6 Jul 2003 01:13:51 -0700 veschprigt mroktar Julian <julzmon@mac.com> [re: Re: yello ftp]:
On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 01:05 AM, organism@hydrophilus.com wrote:
TO THE LIST ONLY.
this is why i emailed you directly I don't want my email or name associated with the ftp server for the entire internet please make an exception
i would still appreciate an account.
It is inappropriate for you to request special treatment. I appreciate your unvoiced concerns for privacy as a stopgap against the acts of the SchutzStaffeln, d.b.a. "R.I.A.A." / "M.P.A.A.".
That notwithstanding, we the denizens of the yello list are all in the same waters together, enjoying for a time wonderful access to previousyly un-heard music, and even some heretofore unseen video material [which was in one instance rather lovingly crafted from munged source by the inimitable Rene].
You are asking to enjoy the fruits without engaging in any of whatever risks may possibly exist. That is not acceptable to me, and I would wager that it is not acceptable to the bulk of the other participants.
I have, as you can see, CC'd this to the list.
Swim, or stay out of the pool.
--gcr
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Klonk Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:06:29 -0700 veschprigt mroktar Julian <julzmon@mac.com> [re: Re: [Yello] Re: yello ftp]:
I really appreciate this.
Speechless...
No, don't be speechless. Just explain to the rest of the group why it is that you need special consideration apart from them. --gcr
I don't have to explain anything. I emailed you a private message that you took it upon yourself to share with hundreds of people. You are an extremely rude person. It was just a personal request and you could have just said no. I don't think this is the place to post your personal negative opinions about other people. I would appreciate you taking this up with me personally and saving other people on the list from this cheap drama. Julian On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 07:13 PM, organism@hydrophilus.com wrote:
Klonk Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:06:29 -0700 veschprigt mroktar Julian <julzmon@mac.com> [re: Re: [Yello] Re: yello ftp]:
I really appreciate this.
Speechless...
No, don't be speechless. Just explain to the rest of the group why it is that you need special consideration apart from them.
--gcr
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Klonk Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:24:30 -0700 veschprigt mroktar Julian <julzmon@mac.com> [re: Re: [Yello] Re: yello ftp]:
I don't have to explain anything. Yes you do. You are requesting special consideration apart from the remainder of the members of this list.
I emailed you a private message that you took it upon yourself to share with hundreds of people. It involves those others as well. You are requesting access to something that is generally considered to be a shared resource.
You are an extremely rude person. This from the guy who doesn't think that this is the place to post one's own personal negative opinions? I find your arrogance unsavoury.
It was just a personal request and you could have just said no. I did say no, twice. Here's a quote of our thread:
please hook me up with an account Follow the rules. [="no"] [... with which you responded] what rules are you talking about? The ones that were posted to the list as the original announcement, reproduced here for your observation:
Which I then copied. You, not taking no, asked AGAIN for special consideration. THEN I took it to the list.
I don't think this is the place to post your personal negative opinions about other people. ... that's your own negative opinion, hypocrite. However, that's not the point. Here's the point, again, as you are clearly missing it:
)0) The initial invitation to acquire access to the FTP server was clear in stating that requests must be made to the list. That is the only method available to me to verify memberships without having to scroll through old messages. Nobody at all has had a problem with that, except you. )1) All those who have followed the guidelines for receiving an account have done so at some apparent risk, given the recording industry's current genocidal war against music enthusiasts. )2) Though you have not stated so, it is apparent that it is out of fear for that same genocide that you chose to stray from the guidelines and ask for an account directly. You seem to think that for some reason you merit special attention, and should be allowed to break from established protocol. I mean, DAMN, dude, it's not like you are being asked to do anything crazy here! )3) Here's the funny bit. You /are/ obviously a member of the list, and have been for a while at least. "Everybody" now knows your dark little secret - that you too wish to have access to the server. Instead of continuing with your bitchfest, why not just post a request to the list? It is now totally moot! If you were less arrogant, you would have just done what was necessary. But now you are stuck trying to defend your pride for this very small and unimportant issue. That's a very sad thing.
I would appreciate you taking this up with me personally... Recall that initially I tried, but you insisted. This is a matter for all, not just you and me.
.. and saving other people on the list ... I have heard no complaints from other people on the list. Have you?
... from this cheap drama. Inexpensive, to be sure.
And now that you are totally pissed off, are you going to go squeal to the SchutzStaffln/R.I.A.A., trying to get the server shut down to satisfy your petty pride?
Um, please guys, can you take this off the list? I'm not interested. Honestly, it's not interesting. At 11:50 PM 7/6/2003 -0700, organism@hydrophilus.com wrote:
Klonk Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:24:30 -0700 veschprigt mroktar Julian <julzmon@mac.com> [re: Re: [Yello] Re: yello ftp]:
I don't have to explain anything. Yes you do. You are requesting special consideration apart from the remainder of the members of this list.
I emailed you a private message that you took it upon yourself to share with hundreds of people. It involves those others as well. You are requesting access to something that is generally considered to be a shared resource.
You are an extremely rude person. This from the guy who doesn't think that this is the place to post one's own personal negative opinions? I find your arrogance unsavoury.
It was just a personal request and you could have just said no. I did say no, twice. Here's a quote of our thread:
please hook me up with an account Follow the rules. [="no"] [... with which you responded] what rules are you talking about? The ones that were posted to the list as the original announcement, reproduced here for your observation:
Which I then copied. You, not taking no, asked AGAIN for special consideration. THEN I took it to the list.
I don't think this is the place to post your personal negative opinions about other people. ... that's your own negative opinion, hypocrite. However, that's not the point. Here's the point, again, as you are clearly missing it:
)0) The initial invitation to acquire access to the FTP server was clear in stating that requests must be made to the list. That is the only method available to me to verify memberships without having to scroll through old messages. Nobody at all has had a problem with that, except you.
)1) All those who have followed the guidelines for receiving an account have done so at some apparent risk, given the recording industry's current genocidal war against music enthusiasts.
)2) Though you have not stated so, it is apparent that it is out of fear for that same genocide that you chose to stray from the guidelines and ask for an account directly. You seem to think that for some reason you merit special attention, and should be allowed to break from established protocol. I mean, DAMN, dude, it's not like you are being asked to do anything crazy here!
)3) Here's the funny bit. You /are/ obviously a member of the list, and have been for a while at least. "Everybody" now knows your dark little secret - that you too wish to have access to the server. Instead of continuing with your bitchfest, why not just post a request to the list? It is now totally moot! If you were less arrogant, you would have just done what was necessary. But now you are stuck trying to defend your pride for this very small and unimportant issue. That's a very sad thing.
I would appreciate you taking this up with me personally... Recall that initially I tried, but you insisted. This is a matter for all, not just you and me.
.. and saving other people on the list ... I have heard no complaints from other people on the list. Have you?
... from this cheap drama. Inexpensive, to be sure.
And now that you are totally pissed off, are you going to go squeal to the SchutzStaffln/R.I.A.A., trying to get the server shut down to satisfy your petty pride?
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