Okay...here is my question. Which parts of this 'remix' were composed and not just samples? Composing original material from scratch is one thing, while playing 'Loop DJ' is another. While I do not mean to belittle your compositional prowess, todays music software, with it's beat-matching technology, pitch-to-MIDI conversion, formant-preservant Pitch-shifting, and audio quantize features, takes a lot of the guesswork and need for true talent out of the equation. Most any of you who are blown away by the quality of these recordings could make the same things yourself, without spending a million dollars on gear. Boris says that about 60% of what he composes at this point is sound generated by software primarily, and if he does use outboard gear, it is still sound that is digitally manipulated once once recorded to the hard drive. We want to hear some original recordings, using your own home-made samples as the raw ingredients, and not 15-year old Yello samples. Michael Pawloski On Mar 22, 2004, at 8:44 PM, yello-request@mailman.xmission.com wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:18:02 +1100 From: Paul Jones <pjones@bettercut.com.au> Subject: [Yello] RE: Yello Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19 To: "'yello@mailman.xmission.com'" <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <18480CED07CD5548B403B4146270B1161CFDFF@NTSERVER1.bettercut.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain
Daniel Mate the Oh Yeah that's unreal. Big Thumbs Up!!!
Paul J
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:39:48 -0600 From: Jon Kamm <kammagic@comcast.net> Subject: [Yello] ***New Daniel-B Remix*** To: yello@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <B729AEFD-7BCB-11D8-BCEE-003065EEF882@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Hi,
Daniel-B be has graciously allowed me to host his new tracks. I'll be putting them up one at a time each for a couple days. If anyone wants all (8) of them please contact me via Instant Messenger. My instant message name is my entire e-mail address (jonathankamm @ mac.com) <without the spaces of course. Here is the first one .
PLANET OH YEAH
http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/1-Planet-Oh-Yeah.mp3
Enjoy!
,Jonathan
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 07:51:18 +0100 From: "Rene" <t013463@tip.nl> Subject: Re: [Yello] ***New Daniel-B Remix*** To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <003a01c40fda$150e1c70$7c7ef0c3@motor> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I'm impressed! That's a type of track I can't come up with... therefor a bow and a yell'd Oh Yeah!
Really like the rhythm section starting 2.00
Keep 'm coming!
Rene
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Hi,
Daniel-B be has graciously allowed me to host his new tracks. I'll be
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:00:55 +0100 (NFT) From: Georg Plank <georg.plank@aon.at> Subject: [Yello] Trip Around the World & Drive/Driven on ebay.com To: yello@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <1079974855.405f1bc723ba0@webmail.jet2web.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I started the ebay auctions for the first two items:
DRIVE/DRIVEN CDsingle promo starting at 20 US$
and A TRIP AROUND THE WORLD IN 1800 SECONDS - CDsingle promo starting at 200 US$
Sorry, I have not managed to make direct links via webmail, so you have to go to my site to get the ebay link: http: www.8ung.at/yello
Yours,
Georg
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Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:07:46 -0500 From: Julian <julzmon@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Yello] ***New Daniel-B Remix*** To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <708D538D-7C23-11D8-ABC7-003065BA83A2@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
freaking awesome!
On Mar 22, 2004, at 1:39 AM, Jon Kamm wrote:
Hi,
Daniel-B be has graciously allowed me to host his new tracks. I'll be putting them up one at a time each for a couple days. If anyone wants all (8) of them please contact me via Instant Messenger. My instant message name is my entire e-mail address (jonathankamm @ mac.com) <without the spaces of course. Here is the first one .
PLANET OH YEAH
http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/1-Planet-Oh-Yeah.mp3
Enjoy!
,Jonathan
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Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:16:41 -0000 From: "Daniel B" <danielb@w2s.net> Subject: Re: [Yello] ***New Daniel-B Remix*** To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <002301c41031$743cf390$6b80193e@Daniel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
thanks Jonathan, due to bandwidth restrictions I couldn't host these myself so cheers for helping me out :)
Most of these tracks were done last October
Look forwarding to bring you more material in the future.
Dan
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Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:55:30 +0100 From: Georg Plank <georg.plank@aon.at> Subject: Re: [Yello] ***New Daniel-B Remix*** To: "The moon: beautiful. The sun: even more beautiful." <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <405F2892.6080207@aon.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
One of the best mixes I've heard for years. Forget Tomcraft and Hardfloor. This is more like good old Andrew Weatherall or Rockamerika. Long live the 12" Discomaxi !!!
Yours,
Georg
PS: I want them all.
Hi,
Daniel-B be has graciously allowed me to host his new tracks. I'll be putting them up one at a time each for a couple days. If anyone wants all (8) of them please contact me via Instant Messenger. My instant message name is my entire e-mail address (jonathankamm @ mac.com) <without the spaces of course. Here is the first one .
PLANET OH YEAH
http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/1-Planet-Oh-Yeah.mp3
Enjoy!
,Jonathan
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Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:21:51 -0600 From: Jon Kamm <kammagic@comcast.net> Subject: [Yello] ***Daniel-B Alternate Link*** To: yello@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <2C14D25F-7C36-11D8-B0AC-003065EEF882@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
Here is an alternative link for anyone who is having trouble with the other.
I will leave these up until Wednesday March 24th around midnight USA CST Then replace it with a new one.
Hint: For iTunes users there is artwork with these tracks. Front and back. The back has track listings of all (8) tracks. I will put them up in order.
http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/YelloSites/FileSharing28.html
,Jonathan
I haven't heard your mix yet, and could you shorten up your forwarded messages before posting? thanks, Laurens van Graft The Grip Guy All your gymnastics grip needs right here! Abolish Daylight Savings Time; its past it's usefulness On Mar 23, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Sonicom wrote:
Okay...here is my question. Which parts of this 'remix' were composed and not just samples? Composing original material from scratch is one thing, while playing 'Loop DJ' is another. ....once once recorded to the hard drive. We want to hear some original recordings, using your own home-made samples as the raw ingredients, and not 15-year old Yello samples.
Michael Pawloski
Hi Michael, I can see what you are getting at here, and I think it's a fair point , something strangely I had also discussed with Rene in a few emails. I like creating mixes, and "Loop DJ" did make me laugh a little :) seriously though, in answer to your "which parts were composed" question the Yello vocal is of course a sample, the drums, and guitar also samples. the bass is composed and filtered/phased etc, the choir pads also composed on a softsynth (absynth, as used by boris) and that's about it. I know sonically what you mean by the end result though, it does sound like a handfull of samples from a magazine cover disk pasted together with Dieter going "BUUUM" over the top, and stuck in Acid and just exported. and it is! LOL , no just joking ;) I do use sample based technology a lot, but can also play the piano and compose on my synth, if you get a chance to listen to Nocturnal .mp3, which Jon might put up soon, that is all Composition on a Korg not much samples in that one, infact none I think. apart from my vocal at the end. Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonicom" <sonicom@mac.com> To: <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:31 PM Subject: [Yello] State of the Art?
Okay...here is my question. Which parts of this 'remix' were composed and not just samples? Composing original material from scratch is one thing, while playing 'Loop DJ' is another. While I do not mean to belittle your compositional prowess, todays music software, with it's beat-matching technology, pitch-to-MIDI conversion, formant-preservant Pitch-shifting, and audio quantize features, takes a lot of the guesswork and need for true talent out of the equation. Most any of you who are blown away by the quality of these recordings could make the same things yourself, without spending a million dollars on gear. Boris says that about 60% of what he composes at this point is sound generated by software primarily, and if he does use outboard gear, it is still sound that is digitally manipulated once once recorded to the hard drive. We want to hear some original recordings, using your own home-made samples as the raw ingredients, and not 15-year old Yello samples.
Michael Pawloski
Well as for my remix the EWA does Dada -doodle beta 4... All sounds are generated by the soft synths that are alive in my Cubase. There are some older samples that I made from my Hardware synths years ago. All the sounds in my doodle are layers on top of layers. I refuse to use loops. The only true Yello samples in this remix are certain sounds that have to be used to make it a.... yes... Planet Dada remix. Certain destinctive Yello sound should be left untouched. They are sacret. :-) Boris, my god, made them. The bassline is a layer set of an old synth bass sample that originated from my old CS1x, with on top of that a bass sound from the Nanosynth, and mixed again with a pure sine, and let's not forget a heavily choresed bass from the V-station VST synth, tuned and modified by me to my liking. Percussion sounds are all tuned and treated to some extend until they gave me the feel I was looking for. Certain sounds originate however from the Akufen remix, with some little tuning. Again to keep the feel/link alive to the Dada tour. And yes I will admit that there is a sound here and there coming from a synth that is very close to a preset with a slight change here and there. All the vocals you hear are mine, with the help of a vocoder to keep my boozed and nicotined voice in tune and Dada-istic. - But how important is all this when I strongly believe that it's the thought and drive behind it that counts. People should not give up on making something and post it to the list, when limited by their gear or software. I sold a 'kidney' to have what I have... others like to keep their organs. - Rene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonicom" <sonicom@mac.com> To: <yello@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:31 PM Subject: [Yello] State of the Art?
Okay...here is my question. Which parts of this 'remix' were composed and not just samples? Composing original material from scratch is one thing, while playing 'Loop DJ' is another. While I do not mean to
I'd sell any of my organs except my ears! They are so important! Laurens van Graft The Grip Guy All your gymnastics grip needs right here! Abolish Daylight Savings Time; its past it's usefulness On Mar 23, 2004, at 4:52 PM, Rene wrote:
... I sold a 'kidney' to have what I have... others like to keep their organs.
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