Hello. We should keep low profile whenever we find out a source for the rare and not-available Yello stuff. Sad but true. However, the idea about Ocean Club selling us legal Yello items is good. Would anyone of us like to start such a business and make a deal with Yello/Universal? A dedicated Yello fan running the business would be more committed to get a hold of good items, plenty of them. Some existing webstore company could stay with a few standard items and would not be interested in to demand the items from Yello. Libraries have legal rights to make copies of certain items, such as webpages. Libraries can place the webpages available after two years (versus the 75 years, after the author has died, we all others must honor). Now, we should have similar legal rights: we should be able to legally copy out-of-print items. Say, copyright holder should distribute 10000 each year to preserve the copy(ing)right. Or, one could simply check when the sells go down enough -- if the copyright holder refuses to sell items (like Yello/Universal does) the number of sold items goes down to zero very quickly. Yello/Universal, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, and the like, are simply culture destroyers because they have stopped selling the art. They are the talibans of the western world. Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software