what are the options for surviving the music drought? 1) get involved and make your own music, it's amazing how quickly you can become proficient at it. minimal training is necessary, just look at BORIS, he never studied music, and I have yet to find a more creative artist! 2) Hook up with your local DJ and ask him to let you do a guest spot for say, a 1/2 hour, and see where that goes. 3) Since you are connected to the globe via the internet, scan the internet radio stations, a good place to start is the college radio stations (usually listed in the home page(s) of each school! In toronto, there is CUIT (UofT), CKLN(Ryerson), and a host of others from the surrounding Universities and Colleges here. It is helpful to scan the programimg guides to avoid the un-necessary hip-plop that is soooo prevalent these days. 4) If you have time to spare, have a good look at Peter Gabriel's "Real World Records" site! You WILL be amazed at the quality and quantity of great music from other cultures around the world. I got a great kick out of the West African JU JU music that came out in the early 80's, in the way that the African pop music was influenced by the 'Western' music, which was initially influenced by the African music in the first place! with the exception of bangra (personal dislike), there is a lot of neat stuff from India, Pakistan, and the like, such as Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, who is on the Real World Label (did a couple of great albums with a Canadian Guitarist, Michael Brooks). I bought a copy of a double CD sampler of world music called "The Best of Both Worlds" from Hanibol/Rykodisk. It is a must for any collection. it was only $12.00 Can., and everyone will find at least one track that they fall in love with! 5) PUNK IS NOT DEAD! it's just harder to find the good stuff! My favorite is 'Social Distortion's cover of Johnny Cash's classic: "RING OF FIRE" 6) Try some Electro-Classical, such as TOMITA, (soundtrack from "A Clockwork Orange", and others, I know they are a bit dated, but, there is something timeless about Classical Music... ON Pocket Universe, Boris uses a phrase of classical music from (I think) Debuessy (spelling?) on Beyond Mirrors, 7) Hang out at your local Church and groove on the PIPE ORGAN!, do you want to experience a huge audio spectrum?, I did a road trip through Europe 13 years ago, and checked out as many as I could! WOW!!! Some good halls offer series of concerts with guest artists, and varied musical fare. 8) DISTANT MIRROR is by far the BEST TRANCE I have ever heard! (thank you Boris) and Finally, 9) Electronic music began in the 70's, not the 80's. Emmerson, Lake and Palmer were the first POP band to have a Synth solo, 'Lucky Man' which still holds it's own today! (Yes, I do have some strong opinions, and a varied pallet when it comes to music, but there's just soo much cood stuff out there, Just keep looking!) I'll shut up now... Laurens van Graft The Grip Guy All your gymnastics grip needs right here! Abolish Daylight Savings Time; it's past its usefulness On Sep 14, 2004, at 6:50 AM, Shaun Turner wrote:

Well it's finaly hit me. electronic music as has been dominating the scene since the late 80's since the development and populisation of the "techno" music seems to be well and truely at an end.

Despite longings to go only to my local night spot saturday nights with the desire to listen to, and if the tunes are right, dance to, some electronic music in whatever form the dj is playing. The aforementioned techno was always popular, with house, trance, and heaps of other variants well and truely in there. Personaly i dident mind rap either. Sir-mix-a-lot, Young mc, Hammer, Run D.M.C., even the beastie boys where always welcome.

Now rap has been warped into hip-hop. A style of music that you can only bounce to, and definatly not dance to in any way shape or form to. Hip-hop, largely the domain of afircan americans, has taken over the nightspots where electronica in all it's forms once ruled. The young people of today are taken in by the "gangster" persona of a number of the better known exponents. the young men are also persuaded by the video clips of extramly skantily clad women with ample busts flying about everywhere. Guys, rarely do video clips reveal anything. Your wasting your time gawking.

perhaps it's just my narrow look on the world from a country town 200km from a town with a 20k population, and 300km from my capitial city. perhams i'm being bent by the narrow minds of the dj's at my local night spot who i've only ever known to play hip hop. perhaps i need to get out more to the right kinds of places - how can one do that in the country. Or perhaps i'm getting old set in my ways. Punk is a style that came and went. perhaps it's electronica's time to go. I hope to god it's not 'cause there's not a lot else out there to listen to.

if anyone has any tips on how to survive in the drought of new and popular electronica i'd be glad to here it.

sorry to rant, it's been one of those days

Shaun

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