Klonk Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:45:21 -0500 veschprigt mroktar Jon Kamm <kammagic@comcast.net> [re: [Yello] Boris and Billy]:
Hello,
Here is what happens when two greats come together. Boris Blank and Billy Mackenzie. The track is called "Baby" from the Billy Mackenzie Maxi CD of the same name. All the music is Boris and the vocals are Billy. Enjoy! Very interesting tune. Not a fan of the vocals, but I thought it was curious to hear how Boris' style, though quite recognizable, took a different colour with a different partner. Some of the elements of the intro, especially, are very recognizable as being the same elements used in that-era Yello tunes.
The format is .m4a or AAC playable now in most all updated players .
http://homepage.mac.com/jonathankamm/Baby-Mackenzie.m4a At approximately 3min 39sec, Billy's voice acquires a sort of "tearing" quality to it as he rises in pitch. I wonder, is that an actual quality of his voice, present in the original recording, or is that an artifact of the compression? For being 128kb, it is fairly listenable. It sounds just a hair muted, but pretty clear anyway.
ISO: File Type Major Brand: Apple iTunes AAC-LC Audio QuickTime/MOV file format detected. -------------- MOV track #0: 506 chunks, 10613 samples Audio bits: 16 chans: 2 rate: 44100 MOV: Found MPEG4 audio Elementary Stream Descriptor atom (51)! Fourcc: mp4a -------------- MOV: longest streams: A: #0 (10613 samples) V: #-1 (0 samples) ========================================================================== Trying to force audio codec driver family libmad... Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding) AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400) Selected audio codec: [faad] afm:faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG2/MPEG4 Audio) decoder) ========================================================================== At 4min 6sec 4061553 [3.9M], your compression ratio is what I would expect from an mp3, while sounding barely, if at all, better. Just for kicks and giggles, I searched my db for another 4min 06sec song. The first one I found, I oggenc'd at q4.5 [targeted to be the same filesize], and this is what I got: Original file as flac: 29210025 [28M] Original file as wav: 43542620 [42M] Done encoding file "03 - Hey You !!! (extended remix).ogg" File length: 4m 06.0s Elapsed time: 0m 40.0s Rate: 6.1775 Average bitrate: 132.5 kb/s 4093235 [4.0M] Sounds kristalklar, too. The midtone of the echoes of the howled "hey you!"'s right at the intro are barely, but discernably muted. Lossy is lossy. For reference, the same file done like this: lame -b 128 [the same bitrate as this recent post] yields this: Encoding as 44.1 kHz 128 kbps j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (11x) qval=3 Frame | CPU time/estim | REAL time/estim | play/CPU | ETA 9449/9451 (100%)| 0:29/ 0:29| 0:34/ 0:34| 8.2913x| 0:00 average: 128.0 kbps LR: 35 (0.3703%) MS: 9416 (99.63%) 3950549 [3.8M] This one also sounds very nice, but it is also barely yet discernably muted - a very little bit more than the ogg. It's interesting to me that one can indeed actually hear what all the benchmark results and q-testings say. So, just to let you know, since you mentioned that you are very excited about finding the best compression algorithm, there are better options out there for you. Oh, and oggenc/dec are completely free, with no strings attached whatsoever. Same with flacenc/dec, and that's totally lossless. Anyway, thanks for the share, as always. It's always fun to hear these new tunes. --gcr