Hi Rory, Thanks for the compliments. But about Yello and their live-lyness. I know that the Fairghlight (the vecor screen in the video) is a sampler and sequencer. So most of what we here would be programmed. Furthermore... the drum patterns are to complex to do by hand... :-) A bit similar to what Kraftwerk did during their live shows in '95. Patterns linked to sounds, prestored in machines and to be recalled by the press of a key. Doing a sort of live -remix of excistig stuff and adding the melodys and such by playing them in real. With Live at the roxy I get the impression that it's a base track (pre-sequenced) with some channels available for the live playing (the aaaahh voice and some noises). I had a close look at Dieter while editing the video. He improvises with lyrics from earlier material. Although the video and sound didnt match in sync on the original tape, I still got the impression that what I heard was live sung/shouted by Meier. Perhaps Rock America who made the orignal recording did a bad job on synchronizing the lot. The standing at the machine... bit is different in timing compared to the original bostich. The funny mimics of Boris where of coarse lypsinced to samples :-) Eventhough he looks as if he could do it for real... ;-) - The most horrible thing that is possible these days is this: Mariah Carry and that other woman... what's her name. They both use a device that is able to sample in realtime and smooth the signal and keep it in the right harmonics. This device makes it possible for those two birds to perform the same, day after day, after day. Normally it is impossible for singers with such voices to keep it clean and pitched week after week. Exhaustion takes it toll. The device evens their flaws out, and the public is happy hearing Carrey as if they listened to a CD. Many years a go I watched a live performance of Nitzer Ebb on Dutch TV. Their stage consisted of some metal plates and a sampler that was mounted to a wall. Pre to every song one of the members swapped the diskette and pressed play. Their comment: Disc or No Disc... the music would be the same. Be happy we still got the live smakking of metal plates...(cool) - Ah what... Live sucks anyway.. :-) I want studio perfection!! - I did a live gig once... I'm still emberacced. I din't realize that I had to speak up real loud to get my voice to the audiance. It didn't work for me that way... As a joke I had a band who was playing use one of my pieces (I had them remix so to say a track of mine and make it theirs). They raped it with live drums and guitars... and I tthought I could simply recite my poem like lyrics... I thought it would be cool... well it got very chilled in the place. It didn't work. I couldn't stick to my lowered voice when I had to speak up... Never ever again... Rene