Any one know a good app for extracting video or audio from DVD for OS X? FYI ... There is a OGG plug in for iTunes came out not to long ago On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 07:38 PM, Brian Willoughby wrote:
[ A directory listing of the FTP server would look something along [ the lines of: [ [ OGG [ MP3 [ Upload
I suggest that you lose the OGG and MP3 directories, and just have:
pub incoming
My assumption is that the extension (.ogg or .mp3) is enough to tell the difference between the formats. Perhaps you should require that files be renamed if they don't already have an extension. I realize that Mac OS can handle files without an extension and still properly determine the format, but this requires MacBin packaging to preserve the creator type, and then the files become awkward on PC and Unix systems. I use Mac OS X, which is happier with the Unix file extension mechanism.
Another thing to consider is that most of us should be able to play *both* OGG and MP3, so it will be more convenient to see all songs in one place. Then, if there is an MP3-only song, or an OGG-only song, we will see it without looking in two places. The only disadvantage is that it won't be very useful to download *all* files in a directory because there will be duplicates which vary only in format (and subjective quality).
[ Under each, there would be a Low_Quality and High_Quality directory, with a [ No_Description directory for the files that have no info about them either [ in the ID or a seperate TXT file: [ OGG [ Low_Quality [ No_Descriptions [ High_Quality [ No_Descriptions [ MP3 [ Low_Quality [ No_Descriptions [ High_Quality [ No_Descriptions [ Upload
I like the idea of sorting things into Low_Quality and High_Quality. I'm iffy about the No_Descriptions subdirectory, but I don't see any harm in letting people know before they download that those files are basically unidentified.
One idea is to collapse the Low and High Quality directories and use naming conventions. song1.L.mp3 would be equivalent to MP3/Low_Quality/song1, and song2.H.ogg would be like OGG/High_Quality/song2 - again, my idea here is to allow users to see at a glance what is available. It's very nice to know the quality before download, but if there is only a low quality version of the song, I'll probably download it even though I prefer high quality for all other songs that are available in both qualities.
An added bonus is that if you don't have time to evaluate the quality, you can leave out the .H. or .L. part of the name. That effectively makes the quality unrated. You can later go back and rename the file on the ftp server once you have time to listen with a careful ear.
You also mentioned organizing songs by album, and I really like this. DO we want to establish a rule that song titles should begin with two numeric digits so they will sort in the directory listings in the same order they appear on the CD or album? We're probably going to have very long file names! :-)
[ If any of you can think of a better directory layout, please post [ up here.
I'm borrowing ideas from other ftp collections. For example, the NeXT archives had programs in source and/or binary format, where each had support for between one and four processor platforms (binaries). The file name used individual characters to indicate the presence of each. 's' was source, 'b' was binary, then 'M', 'I', 'H', and 'S' stood for Motorola 680x0, Intel ix86, HP PA-RISC, and Sun SPARC. All files were tarred and compressed, and thus ended in .tar.gz, but the characters just before that indicated what could be found inside.
With .ogg and .mp3 extensions instead of directories, we could support higher quality formats like .shn (full quality lossless compression) without adding another directory. With .L. and .H. in the name, we could later add a middle quality level by simply using .M. in the name.
NOTE: You wouldn't need L and H for .shn, since it is full CD quality. However, I suppose it is possible for someone to make an 8-bit recording of vinyl (do people still use 8-bit?) and even with lossless .shn compression, that would still be low quality.
Brian Willoughby Sound Consulting
P.S. .shn stands for "shorten" which is an open source lossless compression tool. I recently contributed to this open source project by adding support for AIFF (since the original only supported .WAV and raw sample files). Look on http://www.etree.org/ for pointers to the source and binaries for various platforms. It may be a while before the .shn GUI apps add support for AIFF, since those authors may not yet know of the new features in shorten 3.5.0
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