HellO Rene mate You're a classic. Clever as. I have been fortunate enough to have installed a few Canopus DV Raptors, Matrox systems and the like, although I have never owned one. Do you run Avid yourself on those massive hard drives of yours? I have also played quite extensively with Avid, AE, Myriad, Premiere etc. but I have always - and I mean always ended up with massive sizes, assuming DV quality. The only way I could get a 3 min clip without any digital compositing or effects, to fewer than 100 mg was to run it through cleaner. And that had to be done on a AHEM... Mac. This would get me results similar to what you produced. It's been probably a year since I lasted set up a video system for someone. It was all based on real time editing and effects, I think it was a Matrox RT100? And also a Matrox DV500. They had break out boxes-mega cabling and were unbelievably fussy to set up on WXP pro. A year later the system is still purring along with over 2 GB ram and 2 GB (6 disk array) Hard Drives. It was an awesome system-cost an arm and a leg all up about 3500 EURO. But it wasn't mine. I'd love to have the gear you have. I've got all the bloody software I could ever want with nothing to run it. I suppose in an emergency I can capture Dv via my cheap laptop's cheap fire wire card at an alarmingly fast 6 hours for about 20-30 mins of footage. I captured a wedding 6 months ago in anticipation of editing it. It's still not done. You know why :-) I remember about 15 years or more, when I was working in an edit suite, they just got PC software for real time capture and NLE. I think of it now and it seriously wasn't as good as windows movie maker is today, the funny thing it cost nearly 100 000 EURO. You look at the majority of Yello's early and not so early videos and you can see a lot of what used to happen with NLE and loads of time with what can happen in an instant on the computer. I think the boys from Yello would have been in similar boats, albeit with the latest and greatest gear as soon as it came out. Surely being ultra rich like Dieter was/is should have earned him a few special little gems in the studio over the time. I wonder what they were? PaulO