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RE: Jabberwoc's $2 worth and Brian Willoughby
by Paul Jones 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

Jabberwoc, Well said! Now that's 2 cents. Brian, thanks for pointing out the finer points of copyright, I wasn't aware it extended that far. PaulO --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003

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Re: [Yello] ftp vs. copyright?
by Juhana Sadeharju 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

>From: organism(a)hydrophilus.com > >>An alternative could be that the FTP site would be at "ftp.yello.ch". >Yeah, you get that set up, and we'll roll our stuff right over. You just >let us know once that server is available. [ ... ] >>It is nowadays for Yello very easy to fix the situation: set up >>a commercial mp3 site. >Again, you just let us all know when that's up and running! I have nothing to do with Yello management. I will post my mail to Yello management too as I already planned. My article was a discussion between all the parties involved, not with us only. I have already posted to Yello management on this issue a couple of months ago, but got no reply at that time. >>Of course, Yello could always set up a proper site for purchasing >>high quality mp3 files either individually, in punch, or in yearly >>subscription basis. >Here's another copy of the pertinent part of the README.FIRST file found >on the server, since you appear to have missed its earlier posting: That was not the point. I have seen the readme file. No matter what you write to that file, it all is illegal. I were worried about Rene who seemed to keep the FTP site on his work computer. When police comes, they take the whole computer. If Yello sets up ftp.yello.ch with the same readme file, then that would make us all be safe. It also gives Yello more time to make quality releases of rarities without keeping us on hold anymore. >>In any case, it can be debated (in court, not here please)... >Then you should not have brought it up here. You offer your misguided >opinion and immediately wish to deny responses? That is very bad for >you. I only mean that there is no point of discussing about it here. We need a case in court, and highest possible decision on the issue. Nothing else matters. Best regards, Juhana

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Re: Yello Digest, Vol 4, Issue 12
by Andrew Wessling 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

Hi Everyone, I know this has probbly been said but I can't seem to find the FTP site, can anyone tell me where it is? Regards, Andrew. http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile.

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Copyright Issues.
by Paul Jones 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

HellO Speaking of Copyright. Jonas may remember, not long ago I witnessed a Canadian guy selling Rare B Sides of Yello as a bonus when someone bought a cd single via EBay. This is an obvious attempt at ripping of the musicians and fans. These tracks are totally unavailable in the form of a complete cd. However this guy sells them for 50$ us. I made mention of this because as a collector I felt ripped off that someone was getting for free and trouble free all the music that I spent years collecting and paying for. I am more than happy to share things. So long as no money trades. I think it is totally wrong to abuse copyright so blatantly. I do however believe that what we are doing is OK. We are not trying to make money, we are just sharing what (we have all paid for) we already own. Keep the FTP going, if they want to try to catch us, let em. I can guarantee that they will not be looking to trap FTP users more so P@P users of Kazza and the like. PaulO --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 25/06/2003

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yello ftp
by V Sodini 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Please create an account for username = domingo Thank you very much for setting up this ftp site. BTW, are there any "Yello for Piano" beginner scores available? My son is starting piano, and I'd rather hear The Race, than Mary had a little lamb...:-) thanks, stef _______________________________________ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

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ftp vs. copyright?
by Juhana Sadeharju 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Hello. If I heard correctly the music industry have announced to attack each music downloader from now on. Rene, I suggest you close the FTP site. It is better that people share between individual persons in sense "this and that are out of print, can you make a copy of them for me?". If people want a copy of some rare item, they should ask it in the list. An alternative could be that the FTP site would be at "ftp.yello.ch". Personal ftp accounts could be free or for some suitable price (which should not be much if they offer only files contributed by the fans). Another alternative would be that Yello gives a permission for what Rene and we are doing. This would ensure Rene and we are not getting in to trouble. Of course, Yello could always set up a proper site for purchasing high quality mp3 files either individually, in punch, or in yearly subscription basis. In any case, it can be debated (in court, not here please) that copying out of print material is actually "fair use". And even if it would not be "fair use", it can be debated (in court) if Yello can ask money for damages. Yello and the record company has shown no interest in making money with their out of print music. I have waited for over 15 years for a rare Yello music, but they are still out of sight. This is a very strong sign that Yello is not interested in making money with these music. I'm happy to confess any copyright infringement but I would not pay for imaginary damages. Nobody of us have reason to pay for damages as far as we share out of print material. It is nowadays for Yello very easy to fix the situation: set up a commercial mp3 site. The longer they hold it, the less they can demand for damages. It should be our common interest in to get all Yello material available. We have shown our interest, now it is Yello's turn. --*-- What would be the postal address where to I should send my requests for purchase of rarities? I would ask for a pro forma (prepaid bill). We all should send written requests for pro forma as it would clearly proof that we have done all possible for getting legal copies of the products. Best regards, Juhana

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How How Live
by C.C.R. 29 Jun '03

29 Jun '03

Hi all, The "Magic How How Live" found at the FTP server, do any of you (Jonas Wårstad perhaps?) know if it is a real live done by Yello or a very (and I mean VERY) good fan production? Cheers Chris

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Fw: [Yello] yello ftp for listmembers
by Andrew Vevers 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

Please count me in with username d71. Thanks andrew > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > Version: 6.0.492 / Virus Database: 291 - Release Date: 24/06/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.492 / Virus Database: 291 - Release Date: 24/06/2003

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RE: [Yello] Video on FTP?
by Rory Filer 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Works for me. -----Original Message----- From: organism(a)hydrophilus.com [mailto:organism@hydrophilus.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:23 PM To: yello(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Yello] Video on FTP? I suppose that we can leave them there for now, pending any "issues" that may or may not force their removal. Does that work for everyone? Regards, --gcr _______________________________________________ Yello mailing list Yello(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello

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Yello ftp for listmembers
by Paul Cauffopé 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Hello!! I'd like an account too. Username: salmo -- Paul Cauffopé castingcauffope(a)exmachina.qc.ca

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