January 2004 - Yello - mailman.xmission.com

video race
by Julian 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

anyone know? is there a UK and German release of The Video Race? Or just UK. Julz

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Re: [Yello] What do you think?
by Laurens van Graft 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

Hey, that's trego caull (very cool), kind of like a photo pin-cushion, of Yeool Fans, I like it, I like it. Phto is forth-comming... On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 04:32AM, Jon Kamm <kammagic(a)comcast.net> wrote: here is the idea: >Take a picture of yourself somewhere interesting in your country and >add something YELLO to the picture and send it to me and I will make a >YELLO AROUND THE WORLD section on my site. see a little bit of >everyones home country with a Yello touch. Laurens van Graft. The Grip Guy, all your gumnastics grip needs

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Re: [Yello] 20 Years
by Laurens van Graft 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 06:58PM, Rene <t013463(a)tip.nl> wrote: >I would like to congratulate all >Mac users on this list with the I'm a MAC user! Laurens van Graft. The Grip Guy, all your gumnastics grip needs

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RE: [Yello] Re: Music keys and modulation
by Laurens van Graft 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 11:31AM, Tasha <TourGuide(a)AusTexEcoTours.com> wrote: >Be assured, I can read most any music put in front of me, but am >insanely jealous of those of you who can play "by ear". I too play by ear, but took 6 years classical piano at the Royal Conservatory of Music (UofT), after the third year, the instructor stopped playing the new pieces for me, she figured out that I was playing the entire song from memory. I was then forced to sight read the music, which takes me forever!!!, But I'm so glad that I can read this language as well, but I havn't played anything for a long time, and my sight reading is a little rusty. Laurens van Graft. The Grip Guy, all your gumnastics grip needs

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ganda
by Julian 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

thanks for mentioning propagana... i went looking for my tape and couldn't find it had to go out and buy it on cd if forgot how amazing they were! now i gotta get that cd/dvd version Julz

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Re: Music keys and modulation
by Juhana Sadeharju 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

>From: Juhana Sadeharju <kouhia(a)nic.funet.fi> > >But D major (steps 2-2-1-2) would mean notes I found and downloaded the chords at "http://chordfind.com/". There are chords for guitar, keyboard, and 4-string instruments. Keyboard chords are listed below. The numbers are the step counts, starting from 1. This is good as I have heard the different chords have different moods. chords["C"]="1;5;8"; chords["C6"]="1;5;8;10"; chords["C7"]="1;5;8;11"; chords["Cmaj7"]= "1;5;8;12"; chords["C9"]="1;5;8;11;15"; chords["Cm"]="1;4;8"; [ etc. ] Regards, Juhana

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Re: Music keys and modulation
by Juhana Sadeharju 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

>From: Mark Pulley <mrpulley(a)tpg.com.au> > >The term 'key' refers to the musical scale being used in a musical >piece (eg C major, A minor, major and minor referring to the sequence >notes used in the scale, C and A (or other notes) referring to the >'tonic' note, which is the note the scale starts from). I'm confused and have questions. When voice goes up by an octave, its frequency doubles. An octave is divided to 12 notes. The frequency ratio between any two consequtive notes is constant so that we hear a melody as always the same melody even if the melody is started with a different note. Right? The 12 notes on the keyboard are (w = white, b = black): w b w b w w b w b w b w C D E F G A B The note sheets has the melodies marked on five-string system. -------------------------f---- e ---------------------d-------- c -----------------B------------ A -------------G---------------- F ---------E-------------------- D -C- So, only white keys have some good meaning. Why? Why black keys are discriminated? >always) modulating up or down by a fifth (eg C major to G major). If >pop songs modulate, they usually do so for the last time the chorus is >sung, usually moving up by a single note (a 'major second') (eg C >major to D major) (which is effectively the same as moving up by a >fifth, twice - C-d-e-f-G then G-a-b-c-D) Moving up by a fifth twice means up slightly over octave, but then the thing is brought down by octave, leaving the end result: one white key up -- two notes actually? What is fifth? Does it come from the fact that one has to step five notes down (and one octave up) before reaching the destination? I notice that both C-d-e-f-G and G-a-b-c-D majors steps over the blacks the same way: 2 notes up, 2 notes up, 1 note up, 2 notes up. That is why the melody played on C major sounds the same as in G major, right? But D major (steps 2-2-1-2) would mean notes 0 2 4 5 7 D E ? G A where ? is a *black* key between white keys F and G >(a 'sharp' note (#) is higher >by a small step, a 'flat' note (b) is lower by a small step). Does # and b always mean that we stay at white and black keys? For example, E# would be just F because there is no black key between E and F. The note 4 above would be F# or Gb, right? >What Yello appears to do is more complicated. > >Planet Dada starts out in a particular key - let's call it C (the tune >doesn't use a typical major or minor scale, the scale I've worked out >(using C as the tonic note) is C-Db-Eb-F#-G-Ab-Bb-B-C). The steps would be 1-2-3-1-1-2-1-1. >At 1:32 the melody is played in a different key, a major second higher >(let's call it 'D'). Note that D is not in the original scale (Db was). 0 1 2 3 1 1 2 1 1 D Eb F Ab A Bb C Db D >At 1:39 the second half of the tune is played, this time it has moved >up another major second (this is now a 'major third' above the >original key) - 'E'. Note that E is not in the original scale, or in >the scale used from 1:32 to 1:39. 0 1 2 3 1 1 2 1 1 E F G Bb B C D Eb E I have no idea what to do with these. I would just stick to 12 note system and think about MIDI numbers. If I write a melody starting at C, then I could easily get the same melody transposed to other keys by moving the melody up "as is" in the piano roll editor, right? I'm still quite confused. Why white and black keys if musicians has to use both of them in any case? What are "minor key", "minor chord" and "major chord"? I guess there are two things I want to do for Yello stuff: 1. Write down melodies -- note sequences. 2. Write down the chords -- multiple notes playing at the same time. Both tasks comes easier if there are some rules in how good sounding melodies and chords are formed. Regards, Juhana

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Re: [Yello] Music keys and modulation (was Re: Thoughts on The Eye)
by Mark Pulley 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

On 20/1/04 11:04 AM, gymnsingican.net(a)mac.com wrote: > Nicely done mark, you'll make an educated Yello (&other) music lover out of > us yet! I can but try... ! > Also, I noticed the time of your reply, Do any of us keep a regular > schedule???? I try to check my email daily (which doesn't always happen). This particular reply I left until I had a larger uninterrupted time to write. (I almost didn't reply because it seemed too complicated!) Mark P. ----------------------<http://users.tpg.com.au/mrpulley/>------------- --------- "The holly and the ivy, if they come up in your yard, Then go and get the Roundup, and hit the mongrels hard." (Trad., new lyrics by Colin Buchanan & Greg Champion)

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RE: [Yello] ***Dieter Video***
by Laurens van Graft 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Thanks, Next time, I hope there's something much more challenging!, like which mix of "How How" did ABC tv use for their 5 second 'upcomming' spots between showes in 2001- 2002. (my guess is the original version from Zebra). On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 06:30AM, Shaun Turner <sajt(a)tvsched.com> wrote: >yep, and you dont seemed to have needed my clue,>> Laurens van Graft. The Grip Guy, all your gumnastics grip needs

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Sita D
by Julian 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Jonathan and i figured out who that group is on that russian bootleg that claims Sita D as Boris Blank. The real group is Black Star Liner. One of those Asian-Invation groups from India. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Black_Star_Liner It's actually quite good but it is not Boris. I think this shows that we should not buy those russian bootlegs and just get the real deal. Mystery Solved :) Julz

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