September 2003 - Yello - mailman.xmission.com

Info needed about FTP server that was running.
by J.R. 06 Sep '03

06 Sep '03

Since there is no known ETA on when the other FTP server will be going up, I'm getting close to opening up my Yello FTP server to you all, but I need to know what to expect from those that did have their server up. In particular, how much space was being taken up by all of the files, and if a mirror would be a option to have so those of us on this side of the pond (North America, Canada, etc) have a possible better choice? My current FTP server that is running is short in space, but I could redirect just the Yello stuff to another file server. However I need to be careful that I don't fill up the drives too quickly since I JUST got the new 18 Gig drives installed. Please let me know directly by emailing me ONLY at suite909 at twcny.rr.com so we can discuss this. This usa.net address gets bombarded by spam, so I want to be sure you don't accidentally get filtered. -----=====<<<<<>>>>>=====----- J.R. from New York State, USA The Yello Pagez - http://www.geocities.com/jr_bloodsworth/yello.htm (Yea, I know. It's old as hell.) The updated Yello Desktop Sound Theme - http://www.geocities.com/jr_bloodsworth/yellowav.htm

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Re: [Yello] www.yello.ch
by Juhana Sadeharju 06 Sep '03

06 Sep '03

>From: "jabberwoc" <jabberwoc(a)ntlworld.com> > >The new Yello website won't even load on my browser. I don't even want install the proprietary Flash plug-in. Can the Yello site be viewed in some standard html way? Does open source Flash plug-ins exists at all? I checked how to download the whole site, but it was too difficult. Can Opera or anyone dig out the file locations in Flash programs? I'm downloading the Yello sites for archiving purposes as they change. Lyckily I got the Yello Soundstation archived before it vanished. Anyone has archived the Zebra site? Best regards, Juhana

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Yello's New Site
by Jonathan Kamm 06 Sep '03

06 Sep '03

Got it to work. It was my pop-up blocker Thanks Yes, the site is very simple. But that is the key to a successful site. Your first visit to a site you may be impressed by all the digital wizardry, but what you are there for is to access information. This site does a good job of that. Everything is accessible in one window, Buttons were self explanatory. Mind you there is a lack of info because the the only thing released so far is the 12" single but I'm sure in time more info will be provided. Once everything is released and the info put up then their web designer can sit back and NEVER TOUCH THE SITE AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 3 YEARS!!! he he he later, Jonathan

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RE: [Yello] Yello's Web Site - My two pence worth
by mike＠angryjester.com 05 Sep '03

05 Sep '03

As far as the Flash animation, I use broadband so I don't really think about it. If I didn't, I'd be very frustrated. Keep the content but give the users the options of how to display. Most good websites that use Flash also allow for a text only version. Perhaps the solution for them would be a non-popup entry site with the user option of Flash or text only. That said, I liked most aspects of the site even though I agree that the bulk of it on a seperate window was strange. I liked the visuals and use of the sound samples. I also liked the inclusion of lyrics, graphics and song samples for 'Motion Picture', as well as the hints of 'The Eye'. I hope that if they continue this site they can include more with ALL their releases. For example they could finally give us all the complete lyrics that would be official from the band and not someone's interpretation of them. The nature of the site has that potential. (Finally, after the better part of two decades, we could get the official 'lyrics' to 'Le Secret Farida'.) The site, although novel and interesting, would be more worth the wait if it were more complete. my opinion. > > >---- Original Message ---- >From: jabberwoc(a)ntlworld.com >To: yello(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: RE: [Yello] Yello's Web Site - My two pence worth >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:22:20 +0100 > >>Hello guys 'n gals, >> >>Just a few succient observations about Yello's web site. Firstly, >thanks for the info about the popup blocker. Opera has an option to >turn off popup's and mine is off by default. Where I click on a link >and nothing happens, I know it's because a popup window is trying to >open but is blocked. In these cases, it's very simple to unblock the >popup just for that session. >> >>However, I never expected that to happen when I went onto Yello's >main web site, that the site itself (as apposed to a HTML link) was >loaded up in a popup. And therein lies my first criticism of this >site, it is not only illogical to have your site open as popup, it's >downright stupid. I've never seen this happen anywhere else and for >good reason. So go and figure, did the programmer have his head up >his arse when he came up with this idea? >> >>Second criticism, the fact that this "popup" is such a huge page. >Now I know a lot of people now use broadband, but nevertheless, it's >not good practice to program a web page using just Flash. The size >was half a megabyte which doesn't sound big but for just opening a >web page, it's huge. Even on my broadband connection it took ages to >download and trust me, if I was just casually surfing, I would have >long left that site because it was taking too long for the page to >open/load. Surfers (all of us) are fickle and we all know a web page >needs to load quickly to keep us interested. They should have given >an option not to use Flash. Now while I love a good Flash effect, I'm >very dubious as to whether it is necessarily a good thing considering >it's large overheads (large for opening a web page, not large in >themselves). In fact, and not necessarily to provoke a debate here >between the pro's and con's of using Flash, I very rarely use the >Flash option and when given the choice, use HTML to open a web page. >Pretty pictures and special effects are all well and dandy but it's a >moot point whether they actually enhance your site. >> >>OK, third criticism. Not only do you have a popup to get to their >site when you enter the main site, but when you eventually get the >popup loaded (quite a long time later..yyaawwnn), then you still have >to click on the popup to get to the options! Duh..so in effect you >have to go to three pages before you finally enter their site. Oh >dear me, this is so stupid, time consuming and self-defeating. I'm no >professional HTML programmer (although I've dabbled in quite a few >projects doing this) but just from a humble user's perspective, I >know the best way to surf is to be able to enter a web site, quickly, >logically, without big downloads to slow you up. I mean do I have to >spell out the obvious here? We all know how we like to surf, we all >know what turns us away from some web pages and what attracts us to >others. And I'm sorry to say, that all the things that turn me off >and away from a site are the very things that I find on Yello's >official site. >> >>The Flash menu's are rubbish and very difficult to read. And why oh >why is everything orientated just to "The Eye"? Is there nothing else >Yello have done that I could navigate to? Where's all the links to >their other material? And excuse me, what is "stuff", is this a new >word introduced to precisely describe what that link leads me to? >Where is all the other material? Have I missed something obvious here >and totally bypassed a page that shows all the information I need to >know about Yello? >> >>Oh, I'm going to shutup, I think you've all got the impression as to >what I think about the site. I don't mean to offend anyone but I will >call a spade a spade. I've rarely seen a worst web site and if this >is an example of Yello's techno savvy, then they've lost the plot. >For people who are so technically proficient with their music, to use >this as a site as a front to what they're about is joke. And for >Yello to accept this as an acceptable web site...come on guys, surely >you're more discerning and discriminating than that? >> >>Yello - get your act together and give us a web site that is a >credit to your music and that is a joy to use. We may be your >dedicated fans but that doesn't mean we'll swallow any old crap that >you throw at us. And to the programmer that designed this site - how >did you con Yello into letting you design this rubbish? >> >>I, for one, shan't be visiting their site again. It seems that the >fans themselves (on this mailing list) are designing better sites >than any supposed "professional" (and I use this term very loosely) >seems able to. >> >>OK, don't flame me if you don't agree with what I say. We're all >entitled to opinions here, I don't like the site for the reasons >stated; I'm no expert, just a fan that knows what he likes and >doesn't like. >> >>The sun, blowing the moon away... >> >>Patrick >> >> >> >>

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[Yello] Promos?! What promos ;-(-YELLO.CH & Gregs beta!!!-Georg-Jonathon wins again.
by Paul Jones 05 Sep '03

05 Sep '03

Bloody hell. I wish a few of these promos would fly to Oz. Where and how come you guys get these promos- Makke,Rene,Jonathon,Chris,Jonas,Sean,Mark,Shaun,Greg,Julian,Dava,Patrick,Geo rg -You all have them yeah? Shaun on your site and here; you have mentioned costs involved in getting new Yello to Oz, I would like to suggest that us aussies (Mark, Yourself and I) for 3,get together and share the postage and easily get the minimum order value. What do you think? I have spent $100au before and it kills me. I would love to get their music now. Even waiting will not guarantee a cheaper price from EU. YELLO.CH sux. That's all I have to say. Greg-NICE work, very fluid and will come together nicely. Can't wait to see the results. Congrats. We all tend to love Flash hey. I also have a Yello site in progress-also done in flash and ultradev. I am still curios how you developed your site Jonathon? Georg- We had shared some wish lists, and owned play lists etc on the now temp defunct FTP, when its back up I'd love to take you up on the offer to share lists. Patrick & Georg; Guys thanks heaps for even thinking to look out for records. I have a list of friends from Germ and Norway that collect DM, so I'm always looking for aussie releases for them, as great as the internet is there's nothing like actually shopping for vinyl from shops and fairs. We don't get much in the way of fairs in Oz but I have had the please to travel most of the world and have experienced what you guys get quite often in the way of fairs etc. I am always looking to buy. From anyone anywhere anytime. Hmmm...'The Eye' PaulO

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Tomcraft "Race" mix.
by mike＠angryjester.com 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

The DJ Tomcraft mix of "The Race" is somewhat grating if you're listening to it solely in context of being a Yello fan. I agree that it does sound like he overdubbed the Yello track with his own synths. However if you listen to it in the context of Tomcraft's other mixes or tracks (Into the Light, Loneliness, Bang Bang), it's actually pretty faithful to Yello and in many respects a very good remix. I wonder if this was released with Planet Dada in order to help promote Yello to more modern DJs who may only know them for their big club hits. A lot of people on this list don't care for the remixes, but I feel that having such a variety of remixers take on Yello shows respect for the band, and some of their takes are fun and very interesting. I wish though that Tomcraft had released a second mix without all the additional synths. I like his use of them on his other mixes but it's distracting from the actual remix he did of The Race. my humble opinion. -Mike > >---- Original Message ---- >From: t013463(a)tip.nl >To: yello(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: RE: [Yello] Doubtful HTML Encoding >Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:01:12 +0200 > >>Hmmmm.... >> >>Once again we can witness how money >>is distributed to places where it shouldn't >>be going to. >> >>- >> >>First we have to suffer the concequences >>of the Yello Empire letting a mr. Tomcraft >>lay his hands on a Classic, and come up with >>something that could have easily be made >>with a sam-tracker on an Atari STE. >> >>Then our hungry eyes and ears encounter >>the shear magic of the Prototype Web-Designer, >>who knows one good trick and milks it. >> >>Which is not a compliment. >> >>- >> >>I say: Power to the Yello clan. >> >>We, the core of this little virual >>community have the ideas, creativity and means, >>to construct the real candy for fans. >> >>Let's just do it. I'll have one of my >>contacts hack the yello site and replace >>the lot.... (smile) >> >>- >> >>Rene >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Yello mailing list >>Yello(a)mailman.xmission.com >>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yello >>

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Reply to Random Tox
by Jonathan Kamm 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

Hi, This is Jonathan. If you are interested in using the images for your site please contact me directly at: jonathankamm(a)mac.com Thank You, Jonathan

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Yello's New Site
by Jonathan Kamm 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

I get nothing. Just a blank page. Maybe they're testing things out. How soon you guys turn. Let's wait and see what happens. Greg, Nice site! ,Jonathan

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I'll buy it-New Work?
by Jonathan Kamm 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Mark, Could I get you to scan the cover so I can put it up on my Artwork site I'm sure everyone would like to see what your talking about. 300dpi Tif or Jpeg is fine. ,Jonathan

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I'll buy it-New Work?
by Paul Jones 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Mark Hey I'll give you $40US now. Or list it on eBay with a start price of $1 and see what happens. One sold about 3 months ago for $25US and then a week later one sold for $50US. Lucky dip hey. Jonathon-where did you get your EYE promo artwork from? Do you have a promo already, and is that where you are getting your samples from? Paul

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