Received this notice from Chuck Hards (who is still temporarily off-list busy in school until summer); I assume these come from the same Chinese factory as the Bears, Oberwerks, Galileos, etc.: Celestron 25x100mm binoculars Item No. C5-59854 $199.99 + s&h. 1-800-229-2901 24/7 -or- www.heartlandamerica.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com