Yes, I know. "Jest tryin' ta haf a lidle fun." -----Original Message----- From: Brent Watson [mailto:brentjwatson@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:01 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Pictures on KSL Kim, These rules are broken by the national news media as well, and just as often. Although Utah has many "colorful" uses of the english language, I'm afraid this one is a bit more wide spread. Brent --- Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> wrote:

It's one of my idiosyncrasies. I am also peeved by subject/verb/prepositional-phrase screw-ups such as, "The poorly educated broadcast anchorwoman said a group of children were crossing the street." (The correct sentence, of course, should read, "...a group of children was crossing the street." because the word 'children' is obviously the object of a prepositional phrase and not the object of the sentence.) Sometime listen to the radio or TV and notice how often this rule is broken - such sentences are almost never spoken correctly. As an acquaintance of mine often said, "Yup - urine Utah."

My apologies to anyone I may have offended. And now for today's arithmetic lesson...

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Gibson [mailto:xajax99@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:28 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Pictures on KSL

Oh! and Kim - my fourth language is Utawese in which in some circles "the data is" would have gone by un-noticed. Obviously it didn't get by you.

Jim

Jim Gibson <xajax99@yahoo.com> wrote:

Kim

You are absolutely right. I trip over that all the time at work. Hay! You gotta remember I grew up (in Hawaii) speaking pigeon English. My second language is Surferese and my third language is Regular English which I have less than half donw. (see)

Jim

Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> wrote:

Jim, I hope you don't mind a little teasing... You really should have said, "Here are our data." BTW, good job with KSL.

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Gibson [mailto:xajax99@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:41 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Pictures on KSL

Maybe I should have said. "Here is our data. This picture and Patrick Wiggins mind." That would inspire confidence.

Patrick. I hope you are a good sport. You know I am just teasing

Jim

Jim Gibson <xajax99@yahoo.com> wrote:

Patrick

Thank you. You deserve a grate deal of credit for the pictures we all got. You got us in the right place at the right time oriented in the right direction with the right setup. All I did was push the button.

The one thing I kick myself for now is that I didn't have my date/time stamp turned on. After working for 17 of the last 27 years in the data collection business and in particular being involved in writing programs that bring a number of different data sets together for analysis, I know how important it is to have properly time coordinated data. With out it the significance of each data set is reduced. It would be easy to assume that the video shown on TV and my picture are data of the same event. There is a good chance that that is not the case. If anyone hasn't seen the video spoken of shown on KSL go to

http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=39 <http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=39&sid=8498> &sid=8498

If we consider that the "zipper" affect started over Hawaii, pieces were falling off over the pacific, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona etc all the way to the final catastrophic event. There were multiple events and without time coloration it makes it very difficult to have confidence in saying these two pictures were of the same event. Patrick from some of your previous statements I feel that the event I captured was of the 6:56 (local time) event. Saying "I feel" does not inspire a lot of confidence in an important matter. You were astutely the timekeeper besides everything else you were doing. I guess the best we can do is say here is our piece of data.

Just a few thoughts concerning me.

Jim

Patrick Wiggins <paw@trilobyte.net> wrote:

I checked the web to see if Jim's picture was in the D News today (Tuesday).

Did a search on "Gibson" and got "Utah photo may show breakup of space shuttle" but when I clicked on it it tried to take me to

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view2/1,4382,455029547,00.html?textfield=Gibson

. All that got me was "Not Found The requested object does not exist on this server."

Has anyone been able to get to Jim's picture today?

BTW, kudos to Jim for a fine interview on KSL TV this evening.

Patrick

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