Hi list people, Early this morning some ne'er-do-well hacked into one of our list member's email address book and used the member's computer to broadcast a message that went to a bunch of people and to the UA list. It appears the message contained a link to a site in Germany (as evidenced by the ".de" in the URL). I've no idea where that site went to as I did not click on it. Fortunately since the message bore no subject and was addressed to so many addresses the list software flagged the post as suspicious so it never got posted to the list itself. I alerted the list member to the situation and he responded asking what he should do now. Since this has now happened to at least two folks on UA I thought I'd post about the situation here and ask those more computer-literate than I: 1) How does one keep one's address book from being hacked in the first place? and 2) What should one do after such a hack occurs? Also 3) On Macs one can safely see what's in an email without actually opening it by making a text-only copy (Apple key-Shift-S). How does one do the same thing with a Windows machine? Ideas? Thanks, patrick
must be PC being hacked, Mac's seem more secure. My wireless router has a firewall along with the firewall built in the Mac.
Prevent hacking buy a Mac. Hi list people,
Early this morning some ne'er-do-well hacked into one of our list member's email address book and used the member's computer to broadcast a message that went to a bunch of people and to the UA list.
It appears the message contained a link to a site in Germany (as evidenced by the ".de" in the URL).
I've no idea where that site went to as I did not click on it. Fortunately since the message bore no subject and was addressed to so many addresses the list software flagged the post as suspicious so it never got posted to the list itself.
I alerted the list member to the situation and he responded asking what he should do now.
Since this has now happened to at least two folks on UA I thought I'd post about the situation here and ask those more computer-literate than I:
1) How does one keep one's address book from being hacked in the first place?
and
2) What should one do after such a hack occurs?
Also
3) On Macs one can safely see what's in an email without actually opening it by making a text-only copy (Apple key-Shift-S). How does one do the same thing with a Windows machine?
Ideas?
Thanks,
patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Hi Erik, On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:32, erikhansen@thebluezone.net wrote:
must be PC being hacked, Mac's seem more secure. My wireless router has a firewall along with the firewall built in the Mac.
Prevent hacking buy a Mac.
I do feel more secure by being on a Mac but I read recently that Macs are becoming so popular that Mac viruses are now out there. Certainly not as many as for Windows but enough that I've now set my anti-virus software to check for updates every day (I used to do that only once a month). patrick
FYI, right after I sent my message they tried again. They are persistent. You'd think that after one rejection message they'd go play elsewhere. Now they've received two rejections (they must be beginning to feel like me on date night. <g>) patrick On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:27, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
Hi list people,
Early this morning some ne'er-do-well hacked into one of our list member's email address book and used the member's computer to broadcast a message that went to a bunch of people and to the UA list.
It appears the message contained a link to a site in Germany (as evidenced by the ".de" in the URL).
I've no idea where that site went to as I did not click on it. Fortunately since the message bore no subject and was addressed to so many addresses the list software flagged the post as suspicious so it never got posted to the list itself.
I alerted the list member to the situation and he responded asking what he should do now.
Since this has now happened to at least two folks on UA I thought I'd post about the situation here and ask those more computer-literate than I:
1) How does one keep one's address book from being hacked in the first place?
and
2) What should one do after such a hack occurs?
Also
3) On Macs one can safely see what's in an email without actually opening it by making a text-only copy (Apple key-Shift-S). How does one do the same thing with a Windows machine?
Ideas?
Thanks,
patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Yesterday I got a suspicious email from a person I haven't even spoken to in about five years. MS Office Outlook (I use a PC) also allows viewing a message prior to actually opening it. Since I saw nothing in the subject line of the suspicious email, and since it seemed to be an effort just like you described, I simply deleted it. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:33 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Computer virus question FYI, right after I sent my message they tried again. They are persistent. You'd think that after one rejection message they'd go play elsewhere. Now they've received two rejections (they must be beginning to feel like me on date night. <g>) patrick On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:27, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
Hi list people,
Early this morning some ne'er-do-well hacked into one of our list member's email address book and used the member's computer to broadcast a message that went to a bunch of people and to the UA list.
It appears the message contained a link to a site in Germany (as evidenced by the ".de" in the URL).
I've no idea where that site went to as I did not click on it. Fortunately since the message bore no subject and was addressed to so many addresses the list software flagged the post as suspicious so it never got posted to the list itself.
I alerted the list member to the situation and he responded asking what he should do now.
Since this has now happened to at least two folks on UA I thought I'd post about the situation here and ask those more computer-literate than I:
1) How does one keep one's address book from being hacked in the first place?
and
2) What should one do after such a hack occurs?
Also
3) On Macs one can safely see what's in an email without actually opening it by making a text-only copy (Apple key-Shift-S). How does one do the same thing with a Windows machine?
Ideas?
Thanks,
patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
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Hi Kim, Glad to hear they are not just picking on the UA list. :) Could you spell out how you safely view an email on a PC without opening it? I'd like to know that so I can pass the info on to others. Simply tossing an unopened message with no subject is probably the safest thing to do. However, occasionally I do receive legitimate emails with no subject. Thanks, patrick On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:40, Kim Hyatt wrote:
Yesterday I got a suspicious email from a person I haven't even spoken to in about five years. MS Office Outlook (I use a PC) also allows viewing a message prior to actually opening it. Since I saw nothing in the subject line of the suspicious email, and since it seemed to be an effort just like you described, I simply deleted it.
Kim
I have an older version of Outlook (2002) but I doubt newer versions are a lot different. In Outlook main menu click on "View" and select "Reading Pane." Three options are shown, "Right," Bottom," and Off." Selecting either "Right" or "Bottom" opens a preview window of any email in your Inbox (or Deleted Items, or Sent Items - wherever you happen to be looking) of any email that you choose. Simply click on the email ONCE to view it in the Reading Pane. If you wish to open the email the usual double click will still do so. The Reading Pane/preview window allows you to see subject line, other recipients, messages and attachments without actually opening the email. I've avoided a lot of traps this way. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:50 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Computer virus question Hi Kim, Glad to hear they are not just picking on the UA list. :) Could you spell out how you safely view an email on a PC without opening it? I'd like to know that so I can pass the info on to others. Simply tossing an unopened message with no subject is probably the safest thing to do. However, occasionally I do receive legitimate emails with no subject. Thanks, patrick On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:40, Kim Hyatt wrote:
Yesterday I got a suspicious email from a person I haven't even spoken to in about five years. MS Office Outlook (I use a PC) also allows viewing a message prior to actually opening it. Since I saw nothing in the subject line of the suspicious email, and since it seemed to be an effort just like you described, I simply deleted it.
Kim
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It is out there everywhere!!!!! Even Macs from what I hear. They are no small market anymore. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Hyatt" <kimharch@cut.net> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:40:33 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Computer virus question Yesterday I got a suspicious email from a person I haven't even spoken to in about five years. MS Office Outlook (I use a PC) also allows viewing a message prior to actually opening it. Since I saw nothing in the subject line of the suspicious email, and since it seemed to be an effort just like you described, I simply deleted it. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:33 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Computer virus question FYI, right after I sent my message they tried again. They are persistent. You'd think that after one rejection message they'd go play elsewhere. Now they've received two rejections (they must be beginning to feel like me on date night. <g>) patrick On 19 Mar 2011, at 16:27, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
Hi list people,
Early this morning some ne'er-do-well hacked into one of our list member's email address book and used the member's computer to broadcast a message that went to a bunch of people and to the UA list.
It appears the message contained a link to a site in Germany (as evidenced by the ".de" in the URL).
I've no idea where that site went to as I did not click on it. Fortunately since the message bore no subject and was addressed to so many addresses the list software flagged the post as suspicious so it never got posted to the list itself.
I alerted the list member to the situation and he responded asking what he should do now.
Since this has now happened to at least two folks on UA I thought I'd post about the situation here and ask those more computer-literate than I:
1) How does one keep one's address book from being hacked in the first place?
and
2) What should one do after such a hack occurs?
Also
3) On Macs one can safely see what's in an email without actually opening it by making a text-only copy (Apple key-Shift-S). How does one do the same thing with a Windows machine?
Ideas?
Thanks,
patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
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Patrick: I happen to be one of those people. As you can attest I changed ISP's about seven months ago. In the last couple of months a couple of people from Cloudy Nights sent me Private Messages that they had received a message from my MSN account that had "no subject" and that they led do Prescription sales places in Canada etc. Since then I have tried to contact MSN but since there is no such entity as MSN and no phone numbers to call etc. I have been unable to do anything about my old e-mail address being used in such a manner. I no longer have access to that account and have no way of seeing that it stops. I have received the same type of e-mail from several club members in the last 60 days or so. It did not start this morning. You just got one this morning. I have read that it is a global problem and never to open an e-mail that has "no subject" the subject line. The email I received from a friend had a suspicious subject and I did not open it. I'd love to know how to stop this but I sure don't know how. Anyone know how? My apologies to all but it seems to be out of my control. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Wiggins" <paw@ wirelessbeehive .com> To: " utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve " < utah -astronomy@mailman. xmission .com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:27:55 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Computer virus question Hi list people, Early this morning some ne'er-do-well hacked into one of our list member's email address book and used the member's computer to broadcast a message that went to a bunch of people and to the UA list. It appears the message contained a link to a site in Germany (as evidenced by the ". de " in the URL). I've no idea where that site went to as I did not click on it. Fortunately since the message bore no subject and was addressed to so many addresses the list software flagged the post as suspicious so it never got posted to the list itself. I alerted the list member to the situation and he responded asking what he should do now. Since this has now happened to at least two folks on UA I thought I'd post about the situation here and ask those more computer-literate than I: 1) How does one keep one's address book from being hacked in the first place? and 2) What should one do after such a hack occurs? Also 3) On Macs one can safely see what's in an email without actually opening it by making a text-only copy (Apple key-Shift-S). How does one do the same thing with a Windows machine? Ideas? Thanks, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman. xmission .com http ://mailman. xmission .com/cgi-bin/mailman/ listinfo / utah -astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http :// www . slas .us/gallery2/main. php Visit the Wiki : http :// www . utahastronomy .com
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