Just for Joe "the path of annular totality " sheesh picky picky picky. ;-) Still SLC is outside the limit. Although, an annular isn't nearly as exciting as a full eclipse, Joe is probably spot on with how many will actually go south to see the whole event. Still, with it in my "back yard" I want to see the whole thing. Photo ops are a bonus.
Doesn't the sun set well before the eclipse ends? Practically during annularity, as seen from the continental US? I don't think we can see anywhere near the whole event, especially from Utah. We are just about at the end of the track, IIRC. With the sun so low, you're not going to get really high-resolution photos. Be prepared for a flattened sun and not a perfect circle. the sun might even break up into the "mirage effect", really ripply. In that case, the annular ideal isn't going to happen. Think "art shot" and drama for this one. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM, <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
Just for Joe "the path of annular totality " sheesh picky picky picky. ;-) Still SLC is outside the limit. Although, an annular isn't nearly as exciting as a full eclipse, Joe is probably spot on with how many will actually go south to see the whole event. Still, with it in my "back yard" I want to see the whole thing. Photo ops are a bonus.
I haven't done any serious research myself, but Kevin Poe has. He at first thought that what you say would be true, especially with elevated horizons. But he forgot to correct for daylight savings time, so according to his latest calculations, the entire event, from 1st to 4th contact should be visible from here (Bryce Canyon) and most everywhere else with even moderately elevated horizons. Annularity/centrality/annular totality should be visible well above the horizon, with 4th contact occurring near sunset for most of us in So. Utah, anyway. Nevertheless, Bryce Canyon NP is still the place to be. (Is that message getting home yet? ;-) Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:09 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Doesn't the sun set well before the eclipse ends? Practically during annularity, as seen from the continental US? I don't think we can see anywhere near the whole event, especially from Utah. We are just about at the end of the track, IIRC. With the sun so low, you're not going to get really high-resolution photos. Be prepared for a flattened sun and not a perfect circle. the sun might even break up into the "mirage effect", really ripply. In that case, the annular ideal isn't going to happen. Think "art shot" and drama for this one.
You Bryce people (Kim and Kevin) may know this but S&T is in the process of producing an article (probably the cover story) for the May 2012 issue about astronomy in US National Parks. The article mentions this Bryce Canyon event, and will have a photo of Bryce Canyon. Since the magazine is available well before May on newsstands and by mail, there may be some serious interest in Bryce. Just saying....be prepared! -A
Hi Ann. Kevin doesn't get to read the list often, so I'll answer for him. He told me that he has collaborated with Chad Moore on the article (one reason why Bryce is prominently mentioned). We are indeed preparing for the eclipse and anticipate a crowd of people more like a busy summer day, when 7,000 people can be in the Park. We'll have lots of "flat hats" out there to help with the event - promoting safe observing, handing out eclipse filters, telling stories, etc. You know, the stuff the NPS is made of. We'll probably have at least two main sites where we will try to project the solar image on a large screen, side of a trailer or something similar. Probably not too many small scopes because they just aren't the best public observing tool for such an event, but there will be several ways to view the eclipse from inside the Park. Here's more info: http://www.nps.gov/brca/planyourvisit/astrofest.htm. See you all in May (if not before)! -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:00 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival You Bryce people (Kim and Kevin) may know this but S&T is in the process of producing an article (probably the cover story) for the May 2012 issue about astronomy in US National Parks. The article mentions this Bryce Canyon event, and will have a photo of Bryce Canyon. Since the magazine is available well before May on newsstands and by mail, there may be some serious interest in Bryce. Just saying....be prepared! -A
BTW< Big Bend NP was just recently declared a Dark Sky Perserve.
Hi Ann. Kevin doesn't get to read the list often, so I'll answer for him.
He told me that he has collaborated with Chad Moore on the article (one reason why Bryce is prominently mentioned).
We are indeed preparing for the eclipse and anticipate a crowd of people more like a busy summer day, when 7,000 people can be in the Park. We'll have lots of "flat hats" out there to help with the event - promoting safe observing, handing out eclipse filters, telling stories, etc. You know, the stuff the NPS is made of. We'll probably have at least two main sites where we will try to project the solar image on a large screen, side of a trailer or something similar. Probably not too many small scopes because they just aren't the best public observing tool for such an event, but there will be several ways to view the eclipse from inside the Park. Here's more info: http://www.nps.gov/brca/planyourvisit/astrofest.htm.
See you all in May (if not before)!
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:00 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival
You Bryce people (Kim and Kevin) may know this but S&T is in the process of producing an article (probably the cover story) for the May 2012 issue about astronomy in US National Parks. The article mentions this Bryce Canyon event, and will have a photo of Bryce Canyon. Since the magazine is available well before May on newsstands and by mail, there may be some serious interest in Bryce. Just saying....be prepared!
-A
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Has the Bryce Festival ever been poorly attended?
You Bryce people (Kim and Kevin) may know this but S&T is in the process
of producing an article (probably the cover story) for the May 2012 issue about astronomy in US National Parks. The article mentions this Bryce Canyon event, and will have a photo of Bryce Canyon. Since the magazine is available well before May on newsstands and by mail, there may be some serious interest in Bryce. Just saying....be prepared!
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Maybe 12 years ago. Patrick should know. I remember that he came back from that first festival and told us about it at SLAS. I went the next year and I've been here every year since. I remember early years' observing sessions were held at Bryce Point, with maybe 50 to 100 people. Far cry from the hundreds (I think we had over 700 one night last year) that we get now. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@thebluezone.net Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:13 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival
Has the Bryce Festival ever been poorly attended?
Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater. -A
Maybe you should camp with Patrick.
Seriously, I think the hotel deal last year was just for ALCON and not associated with Bryce. Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of
you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater.
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Stay tuned - Ruby's may yet come through with package deals. Speaking NOT as a Park employee, it may not hurt to call them directly and ask. I'll also ask Kevin about it and let y'all know. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:51 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater. -A
Ann, Kevin is working on getting discounted rooms at the Grand Hotel. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:51 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater. -A _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Cool! Thanks. A On Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM, "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Ann,
Kevin is working on getting discounted rooms at the Grand Hotel.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:51 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival
Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater.
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Cory and I might want to go to the Grand Hotel. Thanks, Joe ________________________________ From: Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Cool! Thanks. A On Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM, "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Ann,
Kevin is working on getting discounted rooms at the Grand Hotel.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:51 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival
Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater.
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Joe, As soon as I get details I will let everyone know. In the past there was a special link and a code that allowed us to reserve the Grand at reduced rates. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:03 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Cory and I might want to go to the Grand Hotel. Thanks, Joe ________________________________ From: Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Cool! Thanks. A On Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM, "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Ann,
Kevin is working on getting discounted rooms at the Grand Hotel.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:51 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival
Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater.
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Many thanks, my friend. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Joe, As soon as I get details I will let everyone know. In the past there was a special link and a code that allowed us to reserve the Grand at reduced rates. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:03 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Cory and I might want to go to the Grand Hotel. Thanks, Joe ________________________________ From: Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival Cool! Thanks. A On Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM, "Don J. Colton" <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Ann,
Kevin is working on getting discounted rooms at the Grand Hotel.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ann House Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:51 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Eclipse Festival
Is there a host hotel for the Festival this year in Bryce? I know many of you camp at the National Parks and while I have nothing against camping (I really enjoyed it when my kids were young), 4 days at 9000 ft in May and alone, I think I want a room with a working heater.
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Kim