Lets have some suggestions for how we can help Katrina victims as individual citizens. I'm on the digest version now, so it may take a day for me to see replies. Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
In situations such as these, I tend to think of the animals. =( http://www.noahswish.org/ I've sent them a contribution. Cyn (since this is truly off topic, let's keep the subject line so those who don't want to talk about it can just hit delete. :) ) Chuck Hards wrote:
Lets have some suggestions for how we can help Katrina victims as individual citizens.
I'm on the digest version now, so it may take a day for me to see replies.
Thanks!
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I don't know if it's off topic. We're talking about a disaster of astronomical proportions, or, in scope, sounds on topic to me... I feel worse for the animals that were trapped and couldn't escape the storm than I do those animals who loot, or, refused to heed the warnings in the first place and could have left. I've donated to the American Red Cross, Storm Relief fund. I think for the human effort, they are probably the better ones to see that help continues to flow. They are on the ground, and, are an honest organization. As for our helpless little friends, I will be sending a donation to the Noahs wish organization. Thanks for the link Cynthia... Quoting Cynthia Blue <leviblue@utahdogs.com>:
In situations such as these, I tend to think of the animals. =(
I've sent them a contribution.
Cyn
(since this is truly off topic, let's keep the subject line so those who don't want to talk about it can just hit delete. :) )
Chuck Hards wrote:
Lets have some suggestions for how we can help Katrina victims as individual citizens.
I'm on the digest version now, so it may take a day for me to see replies.
Thanks!
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Honestly, I haven't kept up on this story much, I'm really just barely reading about it now. I'm supposed to be having as low stress of a life as I can right now, and with the way my pregnancy hormones are fluctuating, that isn't an easy thing for me under the best of circumstances right now. So I've been avoiding the news as much as I can for the past while. But my point is, I did hear that everyone was told to evacuate the New Orleans area at least a couple days if not more before the storm hit, did I hear right? In fact, my 2 adult kids told me that my 2nd husband was down there with a friend of his on a vacation and was told to evacuate several days before the storm hit and did evacuate. Apparently he called the kids to tell them he was evacuating and where he was going instead. If people were told to evacuate and refused to do it, well call me heartless but I just can't manage to drum up a whole lot of sympathy for them. If the storm had hit suddenly without warning and people were truly caught off guard, well that would be an entirely different story. Ken and I were talking about this a little while ago and he said that New Orleans is normally about 10 feet below sea level and the storm center people were predicting 30 foot waves. We agreed it shouldn't take much brains to figure out what a bad combination that is and to get your hiney the heck out of there when the authorities started telling people to evacuate. But I do feel for any animals who were left trapped because they obviously had no choice. I will check out that Noahs wish organization as well. diveboss@xmission.com wrote: I feel worse for the animals that were trapped and couldn't escape the storm than I do those animals who loot, or, refused to heed the warnings in the first place and could have left. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
They were saying on the news, that some jurisdictions released their inmate population onto the streets before the storm hit. Yeah, just point me in the direction of the nearest store and I'll go get that suit I was promised, myself. Call ME heartless, but they probably should have placed all of the really bad inmates on the ground floor and... nevermind, that was definitely a heartless thought. ;) Quoting South Jordan Mom <sjordanmom@yahoo.com>:
We agreed it shouldn't take much brains to figure out what a bad combination that is and to get your hiney the heck out of there when the authorities started telling people to evacuate.
It's pretty tough to see the EXIT sign when ones head is tucked up ones hiney... Pregnant huh? Congratulations!
We're sounding just a bit mean-spirited about many of the folks who were stuck in New Orleans. I too feel for the animals (I'm a vegetarian, after all), but not everyone that got stuck there stayed because they were idiots (some were, I'll grant you). One of every six households in the city had no car. With or without a car, a great many had no resources to afford a getaway--there is grinding, numbing poverty in the region. Bus fare or a tank of gas are luxuries. A great many shopkeepers can't afford insurance (try getting covered in the inner city) and had every penny tied up in their businesses. How else to protect what they had but to stay nearby and stand guard. Even if those reasons don't withstand pure intellectual scrutiny, people have paid much more than a fair price for the mistake. I know we're not really mean, but we sound that way.
I didn't know there was so much poverty in that area, that's a bit different then I guess. I've never been that poor so it's hard for me to fathom being in a position of having no resources to get me out of a dangerous situation. That is sad then that the govt. couldn't somehow arrange to bus these people out of danger before the storm hit. Michael Carnes <MichaelCarnes@earthlink.net> wrote: We're sounding just a bit mean-spirited about many of the folks who were stuck in New Orleans. I too feel for the animals (I'm a vegetarian, after all), but not everyone that got stuck there stayed because they were idiots (some were, I'll grant you). One of every six households in the city had no car. With or without a car, a great many had no resources to afford a getaway--there is grinding, numbing poverty in the region. Bus fare or a tank of gas are luxuries. A great many shopkeepers can't afford insurance (try getting covered in the inner city) and had every penny tied up in their businesses. How else to protect what they had but to stay nearby and stand guard. Even if those reasons don't withstand pure intellectual scrutiny, people have paid much more than a fair price for the mistake. I know we're not really mean, but we sound that way. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Cynthia Blue wrote:
In situations such as these, I tend to think of the animals. =(
I've sent them a contribution.
Cyn
Help Protect Animals When Natural Disasters Strike Disaster Preparation Checklist http://www.helpinganimals.com/f-disasterchecklist.asp Patrick
Help the pets left behind: http://www.utahpets.org/hurricanekatrina.html Patrick
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