I've kept out of the current discussion on climate change mostly because I have long ago learned that "a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still". Too often I see this important discussion boil down to science vs. personal belief (which is often tangled up with conservative political leanings). I've also long ago learned that "you can have anything in this world for money", including it seems the opinions and "facts" from various otherwise credible scientists, assuming you put enough moolah in their pockets. Of course the counter to this is that the majority of climate scientists have somehow managed to get on the payroll of Al Gore! LOL. But the fact that Al is the target of much if not most of the nay-saying only proves my point that the nay-saying is more about politics than anything else. Kinda sad actually. And ironic. An "Inconvenient Truth" indeed! But regardless, I like to fall back to the Carl Sagan / Star Trek analogy. We are on a tiny, fragile spaceship, hurtling through the cold, airless, inhospitable vacuum of space. Why oh why therefore would any rational being want to go and gamble with tampering with the life support system? My $02. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, stormcrow60@xmission.com <stormcrow60@xmission.com> wrote: 3. Many of the usual daily posters stopped posting...

including the moderators. I did not know if they was dissatisfied with the discussion.

No Jon, it was not. Erik

Hi Erik,

I am not sure if your comment about not posting links was directed at me or not. However, I did not post my aforementioned link for several reasons.

1. I did not realize that the global warming topic was off limits. My initial post to Joe's article was one of countering the idea that global warming was not human induced and stated that I assumed there would be retorts. I stated that because I was not sure if the global warming topic would take off on a tangent, yet I could not let the subject of Joe's article go unchallenged. 2. One blogger posted a comment to get the subject back to astronomy. Ho many others' sentiments leaned that way I do not know. 3. Many of the usual daily posters stopped posting... including the moderators. I did not know if they was dissatisfied with the discussion. 4. After Kevin's post with some very revealing scientific data regarding the Sun's activity, it appeared my post would prolong what I thought may be an off topic discussion. Thus my subsequent post to bow out of the discussion. 5. My link would have provided a roughly one hour documentary regarding global warming. Although the program was excellently produced with very credible scientists and data, the data I was speaking of in this documentary was actually only about a ten minute segment of the whole program. But it spoke volumes regarding the proof that global warming is being exacerbated by human activity. 6. I have checked the three websites where I thought I would find this documentary, but I had no luck. Neither could I find it through a Google search. Oh well... I suppose I could actually post a link to NOAA's full length report that was recently released. But would it really change anyone's mind regarding human induced global warming? I thought it better to let sleeping dogs lie.

Anyhow, have a good one!

Jon

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