Re: [Utah-astronomy] Shuttle - our expierence
Deb, Do you remember the time when it went overhead at Ivins? I think Brent is right about the the shuttle breaking up even before you folks started watching it. Compare your time to the event times mentioned on the news service websites. Your observations may be valuable. Worth noting on paper. Brent, were you at the old Huricane airfield? Site of the old rocket sled track and ejections seat test facility? On the mesa? What is the field like there? Bob St. Marie
We were at the old emergency airstrip southeast of town. It is not on the mesa, and is used today as a drag strip and model airplane model port. I understand that some use it for emergency landing practice, and that a light aircraft will land there from time to time. It is in really good shape, except that the east end has a fence down the middle of it and there is a line of telephone poles along one side. There is still plenty of room for us little guys. Brent --- RStmarie@aol.com wrote:
Deb, Do you remember the time when it went overhead at Ivins? I think Brent is right about the the shuttle breaking up even before you folks started watching it. Compare your time to the event times mentioned on the news service websites. Your observations may be valuable. Worth noting on paper.
Brent, were you at the old Huricane airfield? Site of the old rocket sled track and ejections seat test facility? On the mesa? What is the field like there?
Bob St. Marie
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Brent, where on the strip did you end up setting up for Columbia? Near the model plane ports? I really liked that site and wish we had ended back there for the Leonids (though the fort had its own charm). It sounds as if you had exceptional seeing that night as well. Do you think it's fairly common for the site? Dave On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 07:55 PM, Brent Watson wrote:
We were at the old emergency airstrip southeast of town. It is not on the mesa, and is used today as a drag strip and model airplane model port. I understand that some use it for emergency landing practice, and that a light aircraft will land there from time to time. It is in really good shape, except that the east end has a fence down the middle of it and there is a line of telephone poles along one side. There is still plenty of room for us little guys.
Brent
Yes, we were near the model port. I like the location too. I have always looked at deep sky stuff from there. This is the first planetary observing I have done from that site, but my recollection is that it has been pretty steady in the past. Brent --- David L Bennett <dlbennett@mac.com> wrote:
Brent, where on the strip did you end up setting up for Columbia? Near the model plane ports? I really liked that site and wish we had ended back there for the Leonids (though the fort had its own charm). It sounds as if you had exceptional seeing that night as well. Do you think it's fairly common for the site? Dave
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 07:55 PM, Brent Watson wrote:
We were at the old emergency airstrip southeast of town. It is not on the mesa, and is used today as a drag strip and model airplane model port. I understand that some use it for emergency landing practice, and that a light aircraft will land there from time to time. It is in really good shape, except that the east end has a fence down the middle of it and there is a line of telephone poles along one side. There is still plenty of room for us little guys.
Brent
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The "old airstrip" is actually an old WWII training strip. It is soon to be St. George's NEW airport. Actually it would already be under construction except it flunked its EIS. There are real issues regarding aircraft noise in Zion Natl. Park, but they seem surmountable. A new EIS is being prepaired and construction could start in a couple of years. Barney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Watson" <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> To: <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] re: airstrip
Yes, we were near the model port. I like the location too. I have always looked at deep sky stuff from there. This is the first planetary observing I have done from that site, but my recollection is that it has been pretty steady in the past.
Brent --- David L Bennett <dlbennett@mac.com> wrote:
Brent, where on the strip did you end up setting up for Columbia? Near the model plane ports? I really liked that site and wish we had ended back there for the Leonids (though the fort had its own charm). It sounds as if you had exceptional seeing that night as well. Do you think it's fairly common for the site? Dave
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 07:55 PM, Brent Watson wrote:
We were at the old emergency airstrip southeast of town. It is not on the mesa, and is used today as a drag strip and model airplane model port. I understand that some use it for emergency landing practice, and that a light aircraft will land there from time to time. It is in really good shape, except that the east end has a fence down the middle of it and there is a line of telephone poles along one side. There is still plenty of room for us little guys.
Brent
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I didn't know it was used for training in WWII. I know that is when it was constructed, but I always thought it was an emergency strip, and not much used except for one or two aircraft that made forced landings there. It seems like it too far from Zion's to make much difference. There is actually a new Federal Air Regulation governing commercial flights over national park land. (14CFR136) It only covers areas within a mile of these lands, and excludes aircraft landing and taking off within the boundaries. I have heard that it was to be the next St. George airport, but I heard that was scuttled. I have mixed feelings about that as it is a pretty good observing site. Brent --- "B. Bettilyon" <aaah@sisna.com> wrote:
The "old airstrip" is actually an old WWII training strip. It is soon to be St. George's NEW airport. Actually it would already be under construction except it flunked its EIS. There are real issues regarding aircraft noise in Zion Natl. Park, but they seem surmountable.
A new EIS is being prepaired and construction could start in a couple of years.
Barney
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Watson" <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> To: <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] re: airstrip
Yes, we were near the model port. I like the location too. I have always looked at deep sky stuff from there. This is the first planetary observing I have done from that site, but my recollection is that it has been pretty steady in the past.
Brent --- David L Bennett <dlbennett@mac.com> wrote:
Brent, where on the strip did you end up setting up for Columbia? Near the model plane ports? I really liked that site and wish we had ended back there for the Leonids (though the fort had its own charm). It sounds as if you had exceptional seeing that night as well. Do you think it's fairly common for the site? Dave
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 07:55 PM, Brent Watson wrote:
We were at the old emergency airstrip southeast of town. It is not on the mesa, and is used today as a drag strip and model airplane model port. I understand that some use it for emergency landing practice, and that a light aircraft will land there from time to time. It is in really good shape, except that the east end has a fence down the middle of it and there is a line of telephone poles along one side. There is still plenty of room for us little guys.
Brent
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