Re: [Utah-astronomy] LASIX and Cataract Surgery
I just wanted to add that one of the optometrists I had been seeing while my distwce vision was improving on its own, told me that the "vision tends to flatten out as one ages," or words to that effect. While I can't state absolutely that he was telling me that everyone's distance vision tends to improve with age, that was the interpretation I made at the time. I know that many people who have had LASIX surgery swear by it. I've also run into a few who have had to wear thicker glasses afterwards because of some screwup. The point is, this isn't something to be taken likely because, like a lobotomy, it can't be reversed. We all know that what we find on the internet is spotty at best. There are many sources out there that pretty much specialize in telling people what they want to hear. Still, if one reads the material carefully, and tries to stick with stuff that comes from recognized medical authorities, there is much to be gleaned there. As best I can do to hint at a "reliable" source, try to stick with those that explain both the pros and the cons of the procedure without trying to advise the reader to either do it or not do it. Often, when someone buys an expensive toy, procedure, appliance, whatever, and is satisfied with it, they can become an uncritical advocate for it, paying no attention to negative information. Likewise, one who has had a bad experience will likely want everyone else to know about it. The opinions of both camps should be avoided like the plague. Finally, someone mentioned the question of improved night vision with cataract surgery. Objectively, I can't say whether that has improved, but it seems like it has. Sorry to be so wishy-washy about that one, but I just don't remember if there was a change or not. I can say two other things though. In 1981, something happened to the macula of my right eye that changed its visual acuity from being correctable to 20/15 to being correctable to about 20/50 or 20/60. As a result, my master eye switched from right to left. I saw a number of doctors over the years and it wasn't until I developed cataracts and had my retinas checked before the surgery, that it appears to have been some kind of virus that screwed up the pigment layer of my macula. Once the cataract was removed, the sight in my right eye did improve, but not to 20/20. What really sticks out in my mind, though, was my visit to the Drivers' License people, where I took the vision test and passed it without glasses for the first time since I began driving. The only advice I would give is "be careful." In Wagner's opera, "Das Rheingold," this is the same advice given to the Teutonic god, Woton, by Erda, the goddess of the earth. Between the end of that opera and the beginning of the next one in the tetrology, she bore him eight daughters. - - Thanx, *Ray *
Woden should have been more careful! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Druian <raydruian@gmail.com> To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] LASIX and Cataract Surgery I just wanted to add that one of the optometrists I had been seeing while my distwce vision was improving on its own, told me that the "vision tends to flatten out as one ages," or words to that effect. While I can't state absolutely that he was telling me that everyone's distance vision tends to improve with age, that was the interpretation I made at the time. I know that many people who have had LASIX surgery swear by it. I've also run into a few who have had to wear thicker glasses afterwards because of some screwup. The point is, this isn't something to be taken likely because, like a lobotomy, it can't be reversed. We all know that what we find on the internet is spotty at best. There are many sources out there that pretty much specialize in telling people what they want to hear. Still, if one reads the material carefully, and tries to stick with stuff that comes from recognized medical authorities, there is much to be gleaned there. As best I can do to hint at a "reliable" source, try to stick with those that explain both the pros and the cons of the procedure without trying to advise the reader to either do it or not do it. Often, when someone buys an expensive toy, procedure, appliance, whatever, and is satisfied with it, they can become an uncritical advocate for it, paying no attention to negative information. Likewise, one who has had a bad experience will likely want everyone else to know about it. The opinions of both camps should be avoided like the plague. Finally, someone mentioned the question of improved night vision with cataract surgery. Objectively, I can't say whether that has improved, but it seems like it has. Sorry to be so wishy-washy about that one, but I just don't remember if there was a change or not. I can say two other things though. In 1981, something happened to the macula of my right eye that changed its visual acuity from being correctable to 20/15 to being correctable to about 20/50 or 20/60. As a result, my master eye switched from right to left. I saw a number of doctors over the years and it wasn't until I developed cataracts and had my retinas checked before the surgery, that it appears to have been some kind of virus that screwed up the pigment layer of my macula. Once the cataract was removed, the sight in my right eye did improve, but not to 20/20. What really sticks out in my mind, though, was my visit to the Drivers' License people, where I took the vision test and passed it without glasses for the first time since I began driving. The only advice I would give is "be careful." In Wagner's opera, "Das Rheingold," this is the same advice given to the Teutonic god, Woton, by Erda, the goddess of the earth. Between the end of that opera and the beginning of the next one in the tetrology, she bore him eight daughters. - - Thanx, *Ray * _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Often, when someone buys an expensive toy, procedure, appliance, whatever, and is satisfied with it, they can become an uncritical advocate for it, paying no attention to negative information. Thanx, *Ray * As Ray says, people can be uncritical when they have made a large purchase. In the case of LASIK the beauty is literally in the eye of just one beholder who has already made an unreversable choice. This quirk of human psychology is where the likes of Bernie Madoff survive. I would like to see an objective test applied before and after and compared to a standard baseline and administered by someone who isn't selling the procedure. Oddly this doesn't seem to happen. DT
I think it is true that "normal" aging your vision does become farsighted. Ever notice someone holding something further away to read it. I also thought Lasix essentially does make you farsighted, IE you are generally nearsighted when you get it.
Erik I just wanted to add that one of the optometrists I had been seeing while
my distwce vision was improving on its own, told me that the "vision tends to flatten out as one ages," or words to that effect. While I can't state absolutely that he was telling me that everyone's distance vision tends to improve with age, that was the interpretation I made at the time. I know that many people who have had LASIX surgery swear by it. I've also run into a few who have had to wear thicker glasses afterwards because of some screwup. The point is, this isn't something to be taken likely because, like a lobotomy, it can't be reversed.
We all know that what we find on the internet is spotty at best. There are many sources out there that pretty much specialize in telling people what they want to hear. Still, if one reads the material carefully, and tries to stick with stuff that comes from recognized medical authorities, there is much to be gleaned there. As best I can do to hint at a "reliable" source, try to stick with those that explain both the pros and the cons of the procedure without trying to advise the reader to either do it or not do it.
Often, when someone buys an expensive toy, procedure, appliance, whatever, and is satisfied with it, they can become an uncritical advocate for it, paying no attention to negative information. Likewise, one who has had a bad experience will likely want everyone else to know about it. The opinions of both camps should be avoided like the plague.
Finally, someone mentioned the question of improved night vision with cataract surgery. Objectively, I can't say whether that has improved, but it seems like it has. Sorry to be so wishy-washy about that one, but I just don't remember if there was a change or not. I can say two other things though. In 1981, something happened to the macula of my right eye that changed its visual acuity from being correctable to 20/15 to being correctable to about 20/50 or 20/60. As a result, my master eye switched from right to left. I saw a number of doctors over the years and it wasn't until I developed cataracts and had my retinas checked before the surgery, that it appears to have been some kind of virus that screwed up the pigment layer of my macula. Once the cataract was removed, the sight in my right eye did improve, but not to 20/20. What really sticks out in my mind, though, was my visit to the Drivers' License people, where I took the vision test and passed it without glasses for the first time since I began driving.
The only advice I would give is "be careful." In Wagner's opera, "Das Rheingold," this is the same advice given to the Teutonic god, Woton, by Erda, the goddess of the earth. Between the end of that opera and the beginning of the next one in the tetrology, she bore him eight daughters. - - Thanx, *Ray
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