Re: [Utah-astronomy] Are we human because we gazeatthestars?(MostlyOT)
So, this latest variation (time) on the thread is very interesting. Is there anyone out there who feels capable of attempting an explanation of how a cause need not precede and effect? Layman's terms would be preferable for someone such as myself who has difficulty comprehending "billions and billions". Mike ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
On quantum scales, the universe does not operate using Newtonian physics. Brian Greene explained it well in the recent PBS special he did a few years ago, based on his book IIRC. The title escapes me now but I'm sure someone else on the list knows the show I'm talking about. If you get the chance, I highly recommend that you see it. It has to do with probability theory and higher dimensions. Not readily intuitive stuff in our everyday world of up and down, today and tomorrow. Somebody else will have to explain it. On 8/23/07, Olhomorto@aol.com <Olhomorto@aol.com> wrote:
So, this latest variation (time) on the thread is very interesting. Is there anyone out there who feels capable of attempting an explanation of how a cause need not precede an effect? Layman's terms would be preferable for someone such as myself who has difficulty comprehending "billions and billions".
I seem to remember an article or tv show (Nova?) several years back that indicated there is evidence that time, while seeming to flow in a smooth, analog fashion to us, actually flows in more of a jerky (stop - start), digital pattern at the sub-atomic level. If true, it's just another one of those scientific wonders that are difficult for me to comprehend. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Are we human because we gazeatthestars?(MostlyOT)
On quantum scales, the universe does not operate using Newtonian physics. Brian Greene explained it well in the recent PBS special he did a few years ago, based on his book IIRC. The title escapes me now but I'm sure someone else on the list knows the show I'm talking about. If you get the chance, I highly recommend that you see it.
It has to do with probability theory and higher dimensions. Not readily intuitive stuff in our everyday world of up and down, today and tomorrow. Somebody else will have to explain it.
On 8/23/07, Olhomorto@aol.com <Olhomorto@aol.com> wrote:
So, this latest variation (time) on the thread is very interesting. Is there anyone out there who feels capable of attempting an explanation of how a cause need not precede an effect? Layman's terms would be preferable for someone such as myself who has difficulty comprehending "billions and billions".
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Isn't it also true that the older we get, the faster time goes, and the less of it we therefore have to get things done? ;o) --- Ken Harris <kharrismar@earthlink.net> wrote:
I seem to remember an article or tv show (Nova?) several years back that indicated there is evidence that time, while seeming to flow in a smooth, analog fashion to us, actually flows in more of a jerky (stop - start), digital pattern at the sub-atomic level. If true, it's just another one of those scientific wonders that are difficult for me to comprehend.
Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Are we human because we gazeatthestars?(MostlyOT)
On quantum scales, the universe does not operate using Newtonian physics. Brian Greene explained it well in the recent PBS special he did a few years ago, based on his book IIRC. The title escapes me now but I'm sure someone else on the list knows the show I'm talking about. If you get the chance, I highly recommend that you see it.
It has to do with probability theory and higher dimensions. Not readily intuitive stuff in our everyday world of up and down, today and tomorrow. Somebody else will have to explain it.
On 8/23/07, Olhomorto@aol.com <Olhomorto@aol.com> wrote:
So, this latest variation (time) on the thread is very interesting. Is there anyone out there who feels capable of attempting an explanation of how a cause need not precede an effect? Layman's terms would be preferable for someone such as myself who has difficulty comprehending "billions and billions".
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Now thats a theory of general relativity!
Isn't it also true that the older we get, the faster time goes, and the less of it we therefore have to get things done? ;o)
--- Ken Harris <kharrismar@earthlink.net> wrote:
I seem to remember an article or tv show (Nova?) several years back that indicated there is evidence that time, while seeming to flow in a smooth, analog fashion to us, actually flows in more of a jerky (stop - start), digital pattern at the sub-atomic level. If true, it's just another one of those scientific wonders that are difficult for me to comprehend.
Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Are we human because we gazeatthestars?(MostlyOT)
On quantum scales, the universe does not operate using Newtonian physics. Brian Greene explained it well in the recent PBS special he did a few years ago, based on his book IIRC. The title escapes me now but I'm sure someone else on the list knows the show I'm talking about. If you get the chance, I highly recommend that you see it.
It has to do with probability theory and higher dimensions. Not readily intuitive stuff in our everyday world of up and down, today and tomorrow. Somebody else will have to explain it.
On 8/23/07, Olhomorto@aol.com <Olhomorto@aol.com> wrote:
So, this latest variation (time) on the thread is very interesting. Is there anyone out there who feels capable of attempting an explanation of how a cause need not precede an effect? Layman's terms would be preferable for someone such as myself who has difficulty comprehending "billions and billions".
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Erik, that is EXACTLY a relativistic effect in a funny way. When we are say, fifteen years old, a year is 1/15 of our entire lifespan. That's a fairly large fraction! We can think of that time span as an "experience unit". When we are fifty, a year is then only 1/50 of our lifespan and a relatively much smaller "experience unit". The year does seem to be a shorter span of time. Even spans as short as a day seem to pass much more quickly (for me, anyway) than they used to. As an aside, my daughter asks "Dad, why do old people do things so slowly? You'd think they (meaning her mother and I) would go faster since they don't have much time left!" LOL! On 8/24/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Now thats a theory of general relativity!
Isn't it also true that the older we get, the faster time goes, and the less of it we therefore have to get things done? ;o)
--- Ken Harris <kharrismar@earthlink.net> wrote:
I seem to remember an article or tv show (Nova?) several years back that indicated there is evidence that time, while seeming to flow in a smooth, analog fashion to us, actually flows in more of a jerky (stop - start), digital pattern at the sub-atomic level. If true, it's just another one of those scientific wonders that are difficult for me to comprehend.
Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Are we human because we gazeatthestars?(MostlyOT)
On quantum scales, the universe does not operate using Newtonian physics. Brian Greene explained it well in the recent PBS special he did a few years ago, based on his book IIRC. The title escapes me now but I'm sure someone else on the list knows the show I'm talking about. If you get the chance, I highly recommend that you see it.
It has to do with probability theory and higher dimensions. Not readily intuitive stuff in our everyday world of up and down, today and tomorrow. Somebody else will have to explain it.
On 24 Aug 2007, at 11:04, Richard Tenney wrote:
Isn't it also true that the older we get, the faster time goes, and the less of it we therefore have to get things done? ;o)
And the heavier things become and the smaller old clothes get... :)
This "quote" is off-topic and of questionable authenticity, but it made me laugh out loud. It came from the RX-8 owner's club forum I belong to. "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936
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