Joe, It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not rent a bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely on an organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then share the cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party of it, and those along would have a great time. Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be taken at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination intended. Brent
Hi Brent, While simple in principle it ended up being far from that in practice for last year's annular. Rodger Fry contacted the bus company and got a bid. I offered to get the word out (SLAS blasts, announcements here on UA, news releases to the media), to collect the money and to disperse the money as needed. What was needed was someone to get with those wishing to go and work out details like when to leave, where to stop for breaks, where to observe the eclipse from and when to return. IIRC a couple of folks took a stab at that but they never seemed to be able to reach a consensus on those details (especially the "where to observe the eclipse from") so the bus never happened. Personally I still like the idea of flying my plane up there but as I mentioned before I worry that every airport even close to the centerline will be crammed with airplanes whose pilots had the same idea. patrick On 14 Jul 2013, at 14:47, Brent Watson wrote:
Joe,
It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not rent a bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely on an organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then share the cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party of it, and those along would have a great time.
Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be taken at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination intended.
Brent
This is news to me, because I don't remember much about this bus proposal last year except for a lot of ridicule and comments about how impossible it would be, when I brought up the subject. If we had gone so far as to get a bid, I wish I had known about it because it would have been a simple matter to form a committee to decide those questions. It would have been a lot more fun for most people, and a lot less stress, to simply ride a bus down and back. Just for future reference, I'm curious to know what the bid was. Thanks, Joe ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus Hi Brent, While simple in principle it ended up being far from that in practice for last year's annular. Rodger Fry contacted the bus company and got a bid. I offered to get the word out (SLAS blasts, announcements here on UA, news releases to the media), to collect the money and to disperse the money as needed. What was needed was someone to get with those wishing to go and work out details like when to leave, where to stop for breaks, where to observe the eclipse from and when to return. IIRC a couple of folks took a stab at that but they never seemed to be able to reach a consensus on those details (especially the "where to observe the eclipse from") so the bus never happened. Personally I still like the idea of flying my plane up there but as I mentioned before I worry that every airport even close to the centerline will be crammed with airplanes whose pilots had the same idea. patrick On 14 Jul 2013, at 14:47, Brent Watson wrote:
Joe,
It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not rent a bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely on an organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then share the cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party of it, and those along would have a great time.
Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be taken at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination intended.
Brent
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Just checking the meeting minutes and I see the idea of a bus, Rodger's estimates of costs of a bus and even the bus proposal in the 2011 SLAS election ballot were mentioned in every issue of Nova from July/August 2011 to March/April 2012. FWIW, I still like the idea in principle of doing a bus. And I'll renew my offer to help get the word out and to collect and disburse the money for a 2017 eclipse bus. I just don't want to be involved in a replay of the debates on all the details of the trip itself. patrick On 14 Jul 2013, at 19:33, Joe Bauman wrote:
This is news to me, because I don't remember much about this bus proposal last year except for a lot of ridicule and comments about how impossible it would be, when I brought up the subject. If we had gone so far as to get a bid, I wish I had known about it because it would have been a simple matter to form a committee to decide those questions. It would have been a lot more fun for most people, and a lot less stress, to simply ride a bus down and back. Just for future reference, I'm curious to know what the bid was. Thanks, Joe
No Joe. The objection was having SLAS pay for your bus. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is news to me, because I don't remember much about this bus proposal last year except for a lot of ridicule and comments about how impossible it would be, when I brought up the subject. If we had gone so far as to get a bid, I wish I had known about it because it would have been a simple matter to form a committee to decide those questions. It would have been a lot more fun for most people, and a lot less stress, to simply ride a bus down and back. Just for future reference, I'm curious to know what the bid was. Thanks, Joe
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Renting a bus
Hi Brent,
While simple in principle it ended up being far from that in practice for last year's annular.
Rodger Fry contacted the bus company and got a bid. I offered to get the word out (SLAS blasts, announcements here on UA, news releases to the media), to collect the money and to disperse the money as needed.
What was needed was someone to get with those wishing to go and work out details like when to leave, where to stop for breaks, where to observe the eclipse from and when to return. IIRC a couple of folks took a stab at that but they never seemed to be able to reach a consensus on those details (especially the "where to observe the eclipse from") so the bus never happened.
Personally I still like the idea of flying my plane up there but as I mentioned before I worry that every airport even close to the centerline will be crammed with airplanes whose pilots had the same idea.
patrick
On 14 Jul 2013, at 14:47, Brent Watson wrote:
Joe,
It occurs to me that there is no real reason why you should not rent a bus for excursions. Anyone can do it. There is no reason to rely on an organization to do it. All you need to do is fill it up and then share the cost with those who go along. I am sure you could make a real party of it, and those along would have a great time.
Please accept this at face value. What you read above should be taken at face value. There is no innuendo, nor jabbing, nor assassination intended.
Brent
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