Hi Gang, Patrick Wiggins has the EPOD (Earth Science Picture of the Day)! The only thing wrong with it is the rest of us, that is regular Americans, don't know what he's talking about with all that stuff about 1,000 m and 225 m ..... Joe http://epod.usra.edu/
On 08 Dec 2012, at 14:05, Joe Bauman wrote:
Hi Gang, Patrick Wiggins has the EPOD (Earth Science Picture of the Day)!
Thanks Joe. Much appreciated.
The only thing wrong with it is the rest of us, that is regular Americans, don't know what he's talking about with all that stuff about 1,000 m and 225 m
While I know you're kidding, it is a bit disturbing to think that in a recent Harvard study of kids in 34 first-world countries American students ranked 25th in math and 17th in science. I wont go so far as to blame it all on how we measure but let's face it, by shackling our kids with a measuring system not used by 90+ percent of the world's population it's like setting them up to fail when they get out into the international world. Clear skies! patrick (whose car's license plate reads "METRIC")
I was in school back when the big switch to metric was supposed to take place, and I remember people wandering around grumbling about how they weren't gonna let any European pansies tell them how to measure, or some such drivel.... Sigh, sometimes it's hard to be an American, that's for sure. The whole thing blew up for the most art due to our stubbornness. I can totally get on board with things being done in the metric system, it makes truly beautiful sense. Luckily, I can do some basic converting to at least get a ballpark idea of what someone is talking about. And yes, totally awesome picture. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
On 08 Dec 2012, at 14:05, Joe Bauman wrote:
Hi Gang, Patrick Wiggins has the EPOD (Earth Science Picture of the Day)!
Thanks Joe. Much appreciated.
The only thing wrong with it is the rest of us, that is regular Americans, don't know what he's talking about with all that stuff about 1,000 m and 225 m
While I know you're kidding, it is a bit disturbing to think that in a recent Harvard study of kids in 34 first-world countries American students ranked 25th in math and 17th in science.
I wont go so far as to blame it all on how we measure but let's face it, by shackling our kids with a measuring system not used by 90+ percent of the world's population it's like setting them up to fail when they get out into the international world.
Clear skies!
patrick (whose car's license plate reads "METRIC")
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Yes, of course Patrick is right, I was joking about not knowing what the metric system is; I can even convert metric figures into our own system, usually. But it's time for metric-centrics to realize that they lost that battle long ago. And they lost with good reason, in that it's not native to our country and nobody should try to foist a foreign system onto us. If the rest of the world does it differently, so what? I haven't seen any big loss to our economy because of it. If it's easier to figure out volume using metric, again, so what? I'll happily use fluid ounces instead of mm. My point is, this is a little like the rotten attempts at Indian schools -- which children from reservations were forced to attend -- to make students speak English, which included punishing them for using their own languages. The argument undoubtedly was made that the children couldn't succeed in America if they didn't understand English. It was still a cruel practice and has been pretty much universally contemned. Well, there's not even that argument to be made for metric: we do very well, thank you, without using it.Thanks for letting me blow off steam -- Joe PS: That is a great picture of Pahvant Butte and a fine write-up. I've hiked inside it, and I remember the remains of some huge windmill are there.
Nice shot, Patrick. Did you see the crater out there also? BTW, just exactly what did your altimeter read when you took that picture? ________________________________ From: Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Patrick scores again! Hi Gang, Patrick Wiggins has the EPOD (Earth Science Picture of the Day)! The only thing wrong with it is the rest of us, that is regular Americans, don't know what he's talking about with all that stuff about 1,000 m and 225 m ..... Joe http://epod.usra.edu/ _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
On 09 Dec 2012, at 13:51, Brent Watson wrote:
Nice shot, Patrick.
Thanks Brent. There sure are a lot of things out this way that are EPOD worthy.
Did you see the crater out there also?
Tell me more. I did not know about a crater. Where is it?
BTW, just exactly what did your altimeter read when you took that picture?
Actually seeing how the thread went I'm not going to comment. Well, ok, I will. :) I can't find it but I've seen a picture on the web of the instrument panel of a big foreign owned Boeing aircraft. Next to some of the instruments there are little printed tapes with arrows pointing at the readout and the tapes read "American units". Isn't it comforting to know while you're in the back and flying through storms the folks up front can not work in the units they are comfortable with and must use unfamiliar units instead? Sort of like the Canadian 767 who had their craft's fuel added by Americans. The Americans got confused over kilograms of fuel (as the crew requested) and ended up using pounds. Part way through the flight the airplane turned into a glider. Oh, and let's not forget the Mars Climate Orbiter. At any rate, I guess there are now three things we need to shy away from on Utah-Astronomy. 1: Climate change 2: Creationism 3) Units of measure
When the Intelligent Designer created the universe 6,000 years ago, He (not She or It) did so using English units and made sure that the climate would remain unchangeable until the world ends - in 12 days. You lose, Patrick. Kim Patrick wrote [clipped]: At any rate, I guess there are now three things we need to shy away from on Utah-Astronomy. 1: Climate change 2: Creationism 3) Units of measure
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