Hi All, I know this is a liittle of topic, anyone have good or bad expreinces with T-Mobile. I have been checking out their "the only phone you need" service. Seems like a good deal, but only if it is about as relaible as my current land line. Thanks, Erik
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+djcolton=piol.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+djcolton=piol.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:29 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mobile Phones Hi All, I know this is a liittle of topic, anyone have good or bad expreinces with T-Mobile. I have been checking out their "the only phone you need" service. Seems like a good deal, but only if it is about as relaible as my current land line. Thanks, Erik _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Cell service that is that selective is often a peculiarity with the phone and not necessarily a coverage issue. I went through this with Cingular (now ATT) 2 years ago. My wife's and daughter's phones got excellent reception in locations (in our house) where my phone- the exact same model- got nothing. I returned it and 2 phones later, finally got one that got all the reception bars in rooms that I used to get the "no service" notification. On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
Getting a cell connection from one bathroom can be hell, huh Chuck? ;) Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
Cell service that is that selective is often a peculiarity with the phone and not necessarily a coverage issue. I went through this with Cingular (now ATT) 2 years ago. My wife's and daughter's phones got excellent reception in locations (in our house) where my phone- the exact same model- got nothing. I returned it and 2 phones later, finally got one that got all the reception bars in rooms that I used to get the "no service" notification.
On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
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I have to have cell phone access at remote dive sites incase there is an emergency requiring Advanced Life Support. AT&T provides more coverage to the sites than the other services I've tried. Keeping this topic astronomy related, I think I may invest in a "satelite" phone for those times cell service is not available. ;)
On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
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When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511. Erik
I have to have cell phone access at remote dive sites incase there is an emergency requiring Advanced Life Support. AT&T provides more coverage to the sites than the other services I've tried. Keeping this topic astronomy related, I think I may invest in a "satelite" phone for those times cell service is not available. ;)
On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
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If there is a widespread power outage, the cell tower network could go down, and then you'd have no way to call 911. Land-lines have their own power supply independent from the grid and stay up during electrical outages. This is the reason it's not a good idea to have 'Net based phone service coupled with a cell as your only phone service. Always a good idea to keep a hardwired landline, especially in your home, just for this reason. I know, fifty bucks a month is kind of steep for a "just in case" emergency situation that may never come up. Everyone has to weigh this issue for themselves. On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511.
Here's the latest on the grand old building: Hansen Planetarium in Salt Lake City sold to O.C. Tanner By Doug Smeath Deseret Morning News The historic Hansen Planetarium building has a new tenant: Salt Lake City today announced that it is selling the building to jeweler O.C. Tanner. The company will buy the building for $1.2 million. O.C. Tanner's large store has been housed on the ground floor of the Eagle Gate Tower since 2005. Many of the tower's tenants have moved to make way for the redevelopment of the block for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' City Creek Center. The sale comes after the city reviewed O.C. Tanner's request and the request of one other unnamed entity to buy the building at 15 S. State Street. The request for proposals on the building went out in March. According to a news release from the city, the two requests were reviewed by an administrative committee with input from the local development community. The building was originally constructed in 1904 to house the city's public library. The building is noted for its unique architecture and engineering features, including its dome, which O.C. Tanner will donate to the planned Zion's Gateway to the Stars planetarium in Orderville, Kane County. The city's announcement says O.C. Tanner has agreed to use the building in a way that preserves its historic nature. The deal will not be finalized until it passes the muster of the city's Historic Landmark Commission, which will take into account any proposed changes to the building. The commission will likely consider the sale at a Sept. 5 meeting. The planetarium moved into the State Street building in 1968, but the building has been vacant since the Clark Planetarium opened at the Gateway in April 2003. In 1979, the building was added to the National Register of Historic Places. O.C. Tanner opened its first store in Salt Lake City in 1976. It moved into the Eagle Gate location at 20 E. South Temple in 2005. Another O.C. Tanner store is located in Park City.
When the county was auctioning stuff from the planetarium a few years ago, I tried to buy the metal sign out front. They were rather surprised and hadn't even thought of it as saleable property. They declined but added that the decision could change in the future. Maybe I should send my offer to O.C. Tanner? On 8/2/07, Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
Here's the latest on the grand old building:
Hansen Planetarium in Salt Lake City sold to O.C. Tanner
This is wonderful news! O.C. Tanner is a local company with deep Utah roots, an excellent sense of style and the financial means to stabilize and maintain the building. The purchase price of the building is cheap compared with what they'll spend getting it ready for business. Most people may not know that it was O.C. Tanner that donated the fountain that is in front of the building back in about 1976. When we moved out of the building in early 2003 we were told by the city that we had to hurry and clear out by the end of February. I still to this day have no idea why they were in such a rush back then. Now, 4 and a half years later, they've done the right thing with that great old building. I've got to start saving now so that when they open I can afford to visit it and as I make a purchase persuade them to give me a peek at the changes they've made. Seth
Of course in case of wide spread diaster neither will likely work. Our emergency services are limited in how they can respond. The bridge collapse in Minneapolis tied up all EMS Services and Hospitals in the area all day and night. One bridge!
If there is a widespread power outage, the cell tower network could go
down, and then you'd have no way to call 911. Land-lines have their own power supply independent from the grid and stay up during electrical outages. This is the reason it's not a good idea to have 'Net based phone service coupled with a cell as your only phone service.
Always a good idea to keep a hardwired landline, especially in your home, just for this reason. I know, fifty bucks a month is kind of steep for a "just in case" emergency situation that may never come up. Everyone has to weigh this issue for themselves.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511.
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I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call? Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511.
Erik
I have to have cell phone access at remote dive sites incase there is an emergency requiring Advanced Life Support. AT&T provides more coverage to the sites than the other services I've tried. Keeping this topic astronomy related, I think I may invest in a "satelite" phone for those times cell service is not available. ;)
On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
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I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call without an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous? Erik I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511.
Erik
I have to have cell phone access at remote dive sites incase there is an emergency requiring Advanced Life Support. AT&T provides more coverage to the sites than the other services I've tried. Keeping this topic astronomy related, I think I may invest in a "satelite" phone for those times cell service is not available. ;)
On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote:
Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
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I have ONE wife, one teenage daughter, and high blood-pressure. Widespread disasters will be in the minority compared to what I'm talking about. People with home medical equipment that may fail during a power outage, for instance. Or a power failure lasting for days, similar to the one of Christmas time a couple of years ago. It won't matter much if the disaster is sufficiently large. That's why I said each person has to weigh the cost vs. their particular needs. On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call without an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
Chuck,
I knew you had a daughter, just a little humor. Will the high blood-pressure improve when she is cured from the dreaded teenage? Erik I have ONE wife, one teenage daughter, and high blood-pressure.
Widespread disasters will be in the minority compared to what I'm talking about. People with home medical equipment that may fail during a power outage, for instance. Or a power failure lasting for days, similar to the one of Christmas time a couple of years ago. It won't matter much if the disaster is sufficiently large. That's why I said each person has to weigh the cost vs. their particular needs.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call without an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
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My high BP is controlled with medication. There is a chance that I may be able to get off the meds; I'm on the lowest possible dose and the last year the numbers have been very good even when I've forgotten my dose and taken it late. But no, she didn't cause it- it pre-dates her arrival in the world. Blame R.J. Reynolds, whom I broke all contact with some years ago. On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Chuck,
I knew you had a daughter, just a little humor. Will the high blood-pressure improve when she is cured from the dreaded teenage?
Erik
I have ONE wife, one teenage daughter, and high blood-pressure.
Widespread disasters will be in the minority compared to what I'm
talking
about. People with home medical equipment that may fail during a power outage, for instance. Or a power failure lasting for days, similar to the one of Christmas time a couple of years ago. It won't matter much if the disaster is sufficiently large. That's why I said each person has to weigh the cost vs. their particular needs.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call
without
an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
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I'm glad to say I kicked cigs 38 years ago. Horribly enough, I still crave 'em. If I learned the world was going to end in a week, one of the first things I would do is stock up on smokes. It's a lifelong addiction that I dare not give in to again. -- Joe
My high BP is controlled with medication. There is a chance that I may be able to get off the meds; I'm on the lowest possible dose and the last year the numbers have been very good even when I've forgotten my dose and taken it late. But no, she didn't cause it- it pre-dates her arrival in the world. Blame R.J. Reynolds, whom I broke all contact with some years ago.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Chuck,
I knew you had a daughter, just a little humor. Will the high blood-pressure improve when she is cured from the dreaded teenage?
Erik
I have ONE wife, one teenage daughter, and high blood-pressure.
Widespread disasters will be in the minority compared to what I'm
talking
about. People with home medical equipment that may fail during a power outage, for instance. Or a power failure lasting for days, similar to the one of Christmas time a couple of years ago. It won't matter much if the disaster is sufficiently large. That's why I said each person has to weigh the cost vs. their particular needs.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call
without
an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
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I keep stocked up with water and Dog food, my Terrier is good at catching small animals. Erik
I'm glad to say I kicked cigs 38 years ago. Horribly enough, I still
crave 'em. If I learned the world was going to end in a week, one of the first things I would do is stock up on smokes. It's a lifelong addiction that I dare not give in to again. -- Joe
My high BP is controlled with medication. There is a chance that I may be able to get off the meds; I'm on the lowest possible dose and the last year the numbers have been very good even when I've forgotten my dose and taken it late. But no, she didn't cause it- it pre-dates her arrival in the world. Blame R.J. Reynolds, whom I broke all contact with some years ago.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Chuck,
I knew you had a daughter, just a little humor. Will the high blood-pressure improve when she is cured from the dreaded teenage?
Erik
I have ONE wife, one teenage daughter, and high blood-pressure.
Widespread disasters will be in the minority compared to what I'm
talking
about. People with home medical equipment that may fail during a power outage, for instance. Or a power failure lasting for days, similar to the one of Christmas time a couple of years ago. It won't matter much if the disaster is sufficiently large. That's why I said each person has to weigh the cost vs. their particular needs.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call
without
an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
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My Terrier is an asset I would protect with a gun. Has anyone seen the movie "A Boy and His Dog" with Don Johnson. That was a well trained dog!
Terrier tastes like chicken...
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I keep stocked up with water and Dog food, my Terrier is good at catching small animals. Erik
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But it wasn't a terrier, IIRC... After that movie I could never look at Jason Robards in quite the same way again! On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
My Terrier is an asset I would protect with a gun. Has anyone seen the movie "A Boy and His Dog" with Don Johnson. That was a well trained dog!
Not as sweet as mine either.
But it wasn't a terrier, IIRC...
After that movie I could never look at Jason Robards in quite the same way again!
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
My Terrier is an asset I would protect with a gun. Has anyone seen the movie "A Boy and His Dog" with Don Johnson. That was a well trained dog!
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Isn't Terrier short for Teriyaki??? Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
But it wasn't a terrier, IIRC...
After that movie I could never look at Jason Robards in quite the same way again!
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
My Terrier is an asset I would protect with a gun. Has anyone seen the movie "A Boy and His Dog" with Don Johnson. That was a well trained dog!
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What are you talking about off topic Patrick??? Cell phones use Satelite technology and the monthy bills can be astronomical is scope. And if you break down on the way to a star party you can call and let someone know you will be along with the power pack and eye pieces. Nothing more astronomy related than that!
Guy, We are actually discovering common ground, a cell phone is needed astro equipment. Also, despite your teriaki comment you love Dogs too and not just to eat. However, in a survival situation, with all due respect, I think I wll keep my dog away from your barbacue. Also, Patrick directed me to a website, 112 is an emergency number, but mostly in europe. The battery issues should be addressed by the owners manual. During all those power issues my house was only effected for a couple hours and my work was very understanding. The electric company has cut and lopped so many trees in my area since, it is scary. I think my power supply is reasonably safe for a while. All ya Alls, comments have given alot of things to ponder. I think the unlimited free long distance is going to win out. I can cancel within 30 days without penality.
Erik What are you talking about off topic Patrick??? Cell phones use
Satelite technology and the monthy bills can be astronomical is scope. And if you break down on the way to a star party you can call and let someone know you will be along with the power pack and eye pieces. Nothing more astronomy related than that!
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After the Christmas/Solstice power outage a couple of years ago I purchased a 15K portable telescope battery charging machine so in the event of another power outage, I could still charge the telescopes battery. Funny thing though, it will also run the house and shop. You ought to get you one in case your power is interupted for a long period of time. Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
Guy, We are actually discovering common ground, a cell phone is needed astro equipment. Also, despite your teriaki comment you love Dogs too and not just to eat. However, in a survival situation, with all due respect, I think I wll keep my dog away from your barbacue. Also, Patrick directed me to a website, 112 is an emergency number, but mostly in europe. The battery issues should be addressed by the owners manual. During all those power issues my house was only effected for a couple hours and my work was very understanding. The electric company has cut and lopped so many trees in my area since, it is scary. I think my power supply is reasonably safe for a while. All ya Alls, comments have given alot of things to ponder. I think the unlimited free long distance is going to win out. I can cancel within 30 days without penality.
Erik
What are you talking about off topic Patrick??? Cell phones use
Satelite technology and the monthy bills can be astronomical is scope. And if you break down on the way to a star party you can call and let someone know you will be along with the power pack and eye pieces. Nothing more astronomy related than that!
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With 15KW, you can power both Kecks. Or every ETX ever made, at the same time...I think you're covered! I went with 5.2KW (continuous); it will run the whole house but only big power-hungry appliance at a time, not a real handicap in a power outage. And it's small enough to haul in the back of the Explorer if I really need it at a remote site. Converting the whole house to compact flourescent lighting really cut down on the generator load as far as lighting goes. My driven scopes are old enough that they don't have on-board batteries. All of them use a separate controller/power supply which runs on 12VDC. My Dobs run on salad, rice and beans, and an occassional beer. The greenhouse gas emissions are somewhat less than the generator. Somewhat. On 8/3/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
After the Christmas/Solstice power outage a couple of years ago I purchased a 15K portable telescope battery charging machine so in the event of another power outage, I could still charge the telescopes battery. Funny thing though, it will also run the house and shop. You ought to get you one in case your power is interupted for a long period of time.
The 15KW was a little much with all the neighbors wanting to plug in and such, so I down sized to an 8KW. It runs the whole house and keeps the shop going so I can fix a few guns before the looters appear. And, it gets better gas mileage. ;) Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
With 15KW, you can power both Kecks. Or every ETX ever made, at the same time...I think you're covered!
I went with 5.2KW (continuous); it will run the whole house but only big power-hungry appliance at a time, not a real handicap in a power outage. And it's small enough to haul in the back of the Explorer if I really need it at a remote site.
Converting the whole house to compact flourescent lighting really cut down on the generator load as far as lighting goes.
My driven scopes are old enough that they don't have on-board batteries. All of them use a separate controller/power supply which runs on 12VDC.
My Dobs run on salad, rice and beans, and an occassional beer. The greenhouse gas emissions are somewhat less than the generator. Somewhat.
On 8/3/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
After the Christmas/Solstice power outage a couple of years ago I purchased a 15K portable telescope battery charging machine so in the event of another power outage, I could still charge the telescopes battery. Funny thing though, it will also run the house and shop. You ought to get you one in case your power is interupted for a long period of time.
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Guy, I definetly want you to protect the gun supply from looters. The only thing that goes through my mind, when the power goes out, is how queit and dark it is. Who needs streetlights they just ruin your night vision. I have a battery run my observatory, sounds like you could power your street.
Erik The 15KW was a little much with all the neighbors wanting to plug in
and such, so I down sized to an 8KW. It runs the whole house and keeps the shop going so I can fix a few guns before the looters appear. And, it gets better gas mileage. ;)
Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
With 15KW, you can power both Kecks. Or every ETX ever made, at the same time...I think you're covered!
I went with 5.2KW (continuous); it will run the whole house but only big power-hungry appliance at a time, not a real handicap in a power outage. And it's small enough to haul in the back of the Explorer if I really need it at a remote site.
Converting the whole house to compact flourescent lighting really cut down on the generator load as far as lighting goes.
My driven scopes are old enough that they don't have on-board batteries. All of them use a separate controller/power supply which runs on 12VDC.
My Dobs run on salad, rice and beans, and an occassional beer. The greenhouse gas emissions are somewhat less than the generator. Somewhat.
On 8/3/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
After the Christmas/Solstice power outage a couple of years ago I purchased a 15K portable telescope battery charging machine so in the event of another power outage, I could still charge the telescopes battery. Funny thing though, it will also run the house and shop. You ought to get you one in case your power is interupted for a long period of time.
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On 03 Aug 2007, at 12:18, Chuck Hards wrote:
I went with 5.2KW (continuous); it will run the whole house but only big power-hungry appliance at a time, not a real handicap in a power outage. And it's small enough to haul in the back of the Explorer if I really need it at a remote site.
Years ago I bought a small (2.2 kW) generator that I used for running scopes and small appliances at remote star parties. Later I got to thinking about using it at home during a power outage. I did some calculating and found it would not run the whole house but would run necessities (furnace, a few lights). But then I checked with UP&L and was told that if I was going to do that I had to get some sort of switch installed that would isolate the house from the power grid. They added that just turning off the main circuit breaker would not suffice. However, since then I have heard from two electricians that they'd be happy to installed the switch UP&L recommended (for a few hundred dollars) but that the expensive switch would not do anything more than turning off the main breaker would do. It sounds like there are folks here that have run their houses off of generators. How do you handle the "special switch" issue? pw
I have a single throw, double circuit type switch mounted on the back of the house. The main power enters the box as does my generator power. When I throw the switch, it automatically cuts the power from the pole and lets the power from the generator in. When the power is restored to the neighborhood, I throw the switch again and the connection to the generator is cut and the power from the pole is restored. Pretty slick actually. Quoting Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>:
On 03 Aug 2007, at 12:18, Chuck Hards wrote:
I went with 5.2KW (continuous); it will run the whole house but only big power-hungry appliance at a time, not a real handicap in a power outage. And it's small enough to haul in the back of the Explorer if I really need it at a remote site.
Years ago I bought a small (2.2 kW) generator that I used for running scopes and small appliances at remote star parties.
Later I got to thinking about using it at home during a power outage. I did some calculating and found it would not run the whole house but would run necessities (furnace, a few lights).
But then I checked with UP&L and was told that if I was going to do that I had to get some sort of switch installed that would isolate the house from the power grid. They added that just turning off the main circuit breaker would not suffice.
However, since then I have heard from two electricians that they'd be happy to installed the switch UP&L recommended (for a few hundred dollars) but that the expensive switch would not do anything more than turning off the main breaker would do.
It sounds like there are folks here that have run their houses off of generators. How do you handle the "special switch" issue?
pw
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On 8/3/07, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
On 03 Aug 2007, at 12:18, Chuck Hards wrote:
It sounds like there are folks here that have run their houses off of generators. How do you handle the "special switch" issue?
It's called a "transfer switch", and yes, they tend to be expensive ($200-$400, depending on your amperage requirements). Must be installed by a certified electrician. It is constructed such that you can't reverse-energize the grid when on generator power.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+p.wiggins=m.cc.utah.edu@mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Chuck Hards Sent: Fri 8/3/2007 5:06 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Telescope generators (was: Mobile Phones) On 8/3/07, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
On 03 Aug 2007, at 12:18, Chuck Hards wrote:
It sounds like there are folks here that have run their houses off of generators. How do you handle the "special switch" issue?
It's called a "transfer switch", and yes, they tend to be expensive ($200-$400, depending on your amperage requirements). Must be installed by a certified electrician. It is constructed such that you can't reverse-energize the grid when on generator power. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com
If you intend to hook individual appliances to your generator, such as via power strip, I suspect you don't need a fancy switch. Couldn't you have a light, TV and furnace or some such combination, on a power strip that is connected only to the generator? I don't understand how that could harm the power system. When the electricity is restored, just unhook these items from the power strip and plug them into the household current again. Or am I missing something? Thanks, Joe
You're right, Joe, if your generator isnt connected to the house wiring, you don't need the transfer switch. Unfortunately, furnaces don't plug into the wall- they are hard-wired. Thus the transfer switch. It's also difficult to reach the refrigerator plug in many instances, without moving a heavy fridge. If you use an under-rated extension cord(s), you risk overheating the cord. You won't harm the power system if you accidentally energize the grid, though you could damage your generator. The concern is that you could electrocute a Rocky Mtn. Power technician if he's working on a line that he thinks isn't energized. On 8/3/07, Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
If you intend to hook individual appliances to your generator, such as via power strip, I suspect you don't need a fancy switch. Couldn't you have a light, TV and furnace or some such combination, on a power strip that is connected only to the generator? I don't understand how that could harm the power system. When the electricity is restored, just unhook these items from the power strip and plug them into the household current again. Or am I missing something? Thanks, Joe
Hey Y'all, Just saw this awesome article in the June 2007 issue of "Popular Mechanics" (if you can't find it at the store, try your local library). Seems some (maniac) entrepenuer and his partner are trying to develop a thermal-rated pressure suit that will allow people (crazies) to free-fall from 60 miles in space. They'll get to that height aboard a privately-run open-cockpit rocket that will then fall back and be recovered behind them somewhere. This "ultimate extreme-sport diver will reach a speed of 2500 mph before entering heavy air at around 100,000 ft altitude, and then make a normal parachute landing some 10 minutes after bailing out at +/- 300,000 ft. Sounds like fun! Any takers? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Telescope generators (was: Mobile Phones)
You're right, Joe, if your generator isnt connected to the house wiring, you don't need the transfer switch.
Unfortunately, furnaces don't plug into the wall- they are hard-wired. Thus the transfer switch. It's also difficult to reach the refrigerator plug in many instances, without moving a heavy fridge.
If you use an under-rated extension cord(s), you risk overheating the cord.
You won't harm the power system if you accidentally energize the grid, though you could damage your generator. The concern is that you could electrocute a Rocky Mtn. Power technician if he's working on a line that he thinks isn't energized.
On 8/3/07, Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
If you intend to hook individual appliances to your generator, such as via power strip, I suspect you don't need a fancy switch. Couldn't you have a light, TV and furnace or some such combination, on a power strip that is connected only to the generator? I don't understand how that could harm the power system. When the electricity is restored, just unhook these items from the power strip and plug them into the household current again. Or am I missing something? Thanks, Joe
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Isn't that what Chuck Yeager use to do in those x-planes that failed? Hey Y'all,
Just saw this awesome article in the June 2007 issue of "Popular Mechanics" (if you can't find it at the store, try your local library). Seems some (maniac) entrepenuer and his partner are trying to develop a thermal-rated pressure suit that will allow people (crazies) to free-fall from 60 miles in space. They'll get to that height aboard a privately-run open-cockpit rocket that will then fall back and be recovered behind them somewhere. This "ultimate extreme-sport diver will reach a speed of 2500 mph before entering heavy air at around 100,000 ft altitude, and then make a normal parachute landing some 10 minutes after bailing out at +/- 300,000 ft. Sounds like fun! Any takers?
Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Telescope generators (was: Mobile Phones)
You're right, Joe, if your generator isnt connected to the house wiring, you don't need the transfer switch.
Unfortunately, furnaces don't plug into the wall- they are hard-wired. Thus the transfer switch. It's also difficult to reach the refrigerator plug in many instances, without moving a heavy fridge.
If you use an under-rated extension cord(s), you risk overheating the cord.
You won't harm the power system if you accidentally energize the grid, though you could damage your generator. The concern is that you could electrocute a Rocky Mtn. Power technician if he's working on a line that he thinks isn't energized.
On 8/3/07, Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
If you intend to hook individual appliances to your generator, such as via power strip, I suspect you don't need a fancy switch. Couldn't you have a light, TV and furnace or some such combination, on a power strip that is connected only to the generator? I don't understand how that could harm the power system. When the electricity is restored, just unhook these items from the power strip and plug them into the household current again. Or am I missing something? Thanks, Joe
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Who is "Fuy"? Is that Fee, Foe and Fum's brother? ;) Quoting Ken Harris <kharrismar@earthlink.net>:
Hey Y'all,
Just saw this awesome article in the June 2007 issue of "Popular Mechanics" (if you can't find it at the store, try your local library). Seems some (maniac) entrepenuer and his partner are trying to develop a thermal-rated pressure suit that will allow people (crazies) to free-fall from 60 miles in space. They'll get to that height aboard a privately-run open-cockpit rocket that will then fall back and be recovered behind them somewhere. This "ultimate extreme-sport diver will reach a speed of 2500 mph before entering heavy air at around 100,000 ft altitude, and then make a normal parachute landing some 10 minutes after bailing out at +/- 300,000 ft. Sounds like fun! Any takers?
Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Telescope generators (was: Mobile Phones)
You're right, Joe, if your generator isnt connected to the house wiring, you don't need the transfer switch.
Unfortunately, furnaces don't plug into the wall- they are hard-wired. Thus the transfer switch. It's also difficult to reach the refrigerator plug in many instances, without moving a heavy fridge.
If you use an under-rated extension cord(s), you risk overheating the cord.
You won't harm the power system if you accidentally energize the grid, though you could damage your generator. The concern is that you could electrocute a Rocky Mtn. Power technician if he's working on a line that he thinks isn't energized.
On 8/3/07, Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
If you intend to hook individual appliances to your generator, such as via power strip, I suspect you don't need a fancy switch. Couldn't you have a light, TV and furnace or some such combination, on a power strip that is connected only to the generator? I don't understand how that could harm the power system. When the electricity is restored, just unhook these items from the power strip and plug them into the household current again. Or am I missing something? Thanks, Joe
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No wonder some countries hate us... This stuff is just crap. It boggles the mind that some people can be so bored with life that they devote time to this stuff. What will happen, of course, is that the military will end up buying it and they will become multi-millionaires. The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine. On 8/3/07, Ken Harris <kharrismar@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hey Y'all,
Just saw this awesome article in the June 2007 issue of "Popular Mechanics" (if you can't find it at the store, try your local library). Seems some (maniac) entrepenuer and his partner are trying to develop a thermal-rated pressure suit that will allow people (crazies) to free-fall from 60 miles in space. They'll get to that height aboard a privately-run open-cockpit rocket that will then fall back and be recovered behind them somewhere. This "ultimate extreme-sport diver will reach a speed of 2500 mph before entering heavy air at around 100,000 ft altitude, and then make a normal parachute landing some 10 minutes after bailing out at +/- 300,000 ft. Sounds like fun! Any takers?
Something else to consider -- I have my home phone through comcast -- has unlimited long distance 24/7 anywhere in the US. And if I want to talk to someone anywhere in the world, there's a free program called Skype that works just great (but requires HS internet connections at both ends) -- you can even use it with a webcam to see the person you are chatting with. Fun stuff. You can also use Skype to make calls to phones (cell or land lines) at really cheap rates (e.g., about 2 cents a minute to a land line in Europe). Last time I was on, so were about 8 million other Skype users... --- erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net wrote:
I think the unlimited free long distance is going to win out. I can cancel within 30 days without penality.
Erik
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There are a growing number of options, wonder when Qwest will catch up. Should be interesting what the market will be like in the next decade. Have only had my Wi-Fi for less than year, nto willing to change provider yet.
Something else to consider -- I have my home phone
through comcast -- has unlimited long distance 24/7 anywhere in the US. And if I want to talk to someone anywhere in the world, there's a free program called Skype that works just great (but requires HS internet connections at both ends) -- you can even use it with a webcam to see the person you are chatting with. Fun stuff. You can also use Skype to make calls to phones (cell or land lines) at really cheap rates (e.g., about 2 cents a minute to a land line in Europe). Last time I was on, so were about 8 million other Skype users...
--- erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net wrote:
I think the unlimited free long distance is going to win out. I can cancel within 30 days without penality.
Erik
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I remember that Christmas/Solstice outage very well. ;) We were without power for 3 days with no way to run my Telescope. Soooo, the first thing I did when the lights came on was run down a 15K generator. 15K was a waste so I down sized it to 8K which will run the house, shop and telescope battery charger. Our hard wired phone worked great. I took a spare phone to my neighbor, an elderly widow so she could order a pizza. Merry Solstice! ;) Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
I have ONE wife, one teenage daughter, and high blood-pressure.
Widespread disasters will be in the minority compared to what I'm talking about. People with home medical equipment that may fail during a power outage, for instance. Or a power failure lasting for days, similar to the one of Christmas time a couple of years ago. It won't matter much if the disaster is sufficiently large. That's why I said each person has to weigh the cost vs. their particular needs.
On 8/2/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call without an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
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You have to have a signal to make a connection. Any connection. So if you find yourself in an area where you ain't got no signal, you can press 911 til you're blue in the face but no one will answer. And no law in the free world can hold 911 operators accountable if your cell service won't connect. It's like a police radio, or, any radio for that matter. If you are in a dead spot, ain't going to do no good to scream! So Erik, pick a cell service that provides the best coverage for your needs. Make sure when you are hiding in your safe room, you have a signal. Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call without an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511.
Erik
I have to have cell phone access at remote dive sites incase there is an emergency requiring Advanced Life Support. AT&T provides more coverage to the sites than the other services I've tried. Keeping this topic astronomy related, I think I may invest in a "satelite" phone for those times cell service is not available. ;)
On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote: > > Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service > has > dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his > house. > If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your > house > and test that location. > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com
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The 911 operator will not be held accountable, it will be the multimillon dollar cell phone carrier that did not allow you to connect to 911, because you did not subscribe to their plan. If you are in an area that has no coverage period it is likely EMS is to far away to help anyway. I knew a professional diver who suffered a Heart Attack while diving, he passed away. CPR is hard to do underwater. I have taken advanced life support and have been an instructor. I agree chose the service best for your needs, but in an emergency try to dial 911 regardless of what your bars say. Would not you feel silly if was right? Cell phones also have an emergency battery reserve, I also carry a battery that plugs into the phone.
Erik You have to have a signal to make a connection. Any connection. So if
you find yourself in an area where you ain't got no signal, you can press 911 til you're blue in the face but no one will answer. And no law in the free world can hold 911 operators accountable if your cell service won't connect. It's like a police radio, or, any radio for that matter. If you are in a dead spot, ain't going to do no good to scream! So Erik, pick a cell service that provides the best coverage for your needs. Make sure when you are hiding in your safe room, you have a signal.
Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
I don't know i have never tried it, they get touchy if you call without an emergency. It is supposed to work differently when you type 911, if there is any cell phone service by any carrier in the area. I am sure that it is an FCC Regulation, including deactivated phones. Little consulation if you call and it does not work, but a least someone will get rich from the lawsuit.
I wonder, is Chuck admitting he is a polygamous?
Erik
I might be wrong Erik, but don't you need signal bars to make a 911 call?
Quoting erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net:
When calling 911 your carrier is not supposed to be an issue, even on deactivated phones. If you dial 911 and don't get connect FCC regulations have been violated. I think that also applies to 511.
Erik
I have to have cell phone access at remote dive sites incase there is an emergency requiring Advanced Life Support. AT&T provides more coverage to the sites than the other services I've tried. Keeping this topic astronomy related, I think I may invest in a "satelite" phone for those times cell service is not available. ;)
> > On 8/2/07, Don J. Colton <djcolton@piol.com> wrote: >> >> Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service >> has >> dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his >> house. >> If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your >> house >> and test that location. >> > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >
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Hopefully that ain't a "light" bucket! ;) Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
I live with 2 women. I haven't seen the inside of the bathroom in ages. Good thing I have my bucket in the backyard.
On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Getting a cell connection from one bathroom can be hell, huh Chuck? ;)
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Depends on if I've been eating a lot of Mexican food or not...could get quite heavy... On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Hopefully that ain't a "light" bucket! ;)
Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
I live with 2 women. I haven't seen the inside of the bathroom in ages. Good thing I have my bucket in the backyard.
On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Getting a cell connection from one bathroom can be hell, huh Chuck? ;)
Sorry, wrong type of bucket. I was refering to a telescope "light" bucket. Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
Depends on if I've been eating a lot of Mexican food or not...could get quite heavy...
On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Hopefully that ain't a "light" bucket! ;)
Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
I live with 2 women. I haven't seen the inside of the bathroom in ages. Good thing I have my bucket in the backyard.
On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Getting a cell connection from one bathroom can be hell, huh Chuck? ;)
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Depends on the telescope...I've seen some that would suffice for what I was referring to... ;o) On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Sorry, wrong type of bucket. I was refering to a telescope "light" bucket.
Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
Depends on if I've been eating a lot of Mexican food or not...could get quite heavy...
On 8/2/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Hopefully that ain't a "light" bucket! ;)
The signal is strong in my area according to their map on their website. It will be connected to my Wi-Fi Service making my house a T-Mobile Hot Spot, that adds $10/Month, and thus becomes my LongDistance and Home Service.
Erik Most of the time mobile phones are as good, but all mobile service has
dead spot areas. My son can only use his phone in part of his house. If you know someone who has T-Mobile see if they will come to your house and test that location.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+djcolton=piol.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+djcolton=piol.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:29 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mobile Phones
Hi All, I know this is a liittle of topic, anyone have good or bad expreinces with T-Mobile. I have been checking out their "the only phone you need" service. Seems like a good deal, but only if it is about as relaible as my current land line.
Thanks, Erik
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Erik, I've had T-mobile the last 3 or 4 years, after a stint with Verizon. T-Mobile has been great -- I don't think I've ever had a call dropped (except when I expected it driving up a canyon). But I used to get Verizon calls dropped pretty much on a daily basis, for no apparent reason (standing still no less!). I've also found T-Mobile's customer service friendly and helpful, FWIW. --- erikhansen@TheBlueZone.net wrote:
Hi All, I know this is a liittle of topic, anyone have good or bad expreinces with T-Mobile. I have been checking out their "the only phone you need" service. Seems like a good deal, but only if it is about as relaible as my current land line.
Thanks, Erik
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Ok, as co-moderator I probably should be trying to put the brakes on this VERY off topic thread. But, hey, no one seems to be complaining so I'll add a bit of humor on the subject of "dropped calls". http://powrightbetweentheeyes.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ 2007/04/27/drop_billboard_cingular_1.jpg Grins, pw On 02 Aug 2007, at 18:47, Richard Tenney wrote:
I've had T-mobile the last 3 or 4 years, after a stint with Verizon. T-Mobile has been great -- I don't think I've ever had a call dropped (except when I expected it driving up a canyon). But I used to get Verizon calls dropped pretty much on a daily basis, for no apparent reason (standing still no less!).
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