Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] AstroAlert: Middle Latitude Auroral Activity Warning Issued
I know they come down this far south but not that often. One gal from Divide, CO said she was looking out for auroras but didn't see any but a guy from Fort Collins, CO, 80 miles north, saw them and photographed them. I will be looking out for them but the kp index has fallen to 5.3. I looked at the pictures on SpaceWeather and enjoyed the Park City images. If we get another alert, I may just pack my camera and telescope and head north. Debbie
From: Canopus56 <canopus56@yahoo.com> Date: 2005/09/11 Sun PM 03:24:47 MDT To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] AstroAlert: Middle Latitude Auroral Activity Warning Issued
-- astrodeb@charter.net wrote:
With a latitude of 37 degrees 05 minutes, all I can do is enjoy others' astrophotos. . . .
Here's a picture on spaceweather.com from Sept. 10 taken in Park City. http://spaceweather.com/aurora/images2005/11sep05/Jolley1.jpg
Even if you are living at a lower latitude, like as far south as Tuscon, when the geomagnetic storms reach a kp of 8-9 (as they did last night) the red tops of the aurora can be photographed from southern Utah. - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/info/kp-aurora.html There are many such photographs on spaceweather.com from Arizona and New Mexico.
In Salt Lake City, we can generally see the aurora when the kp index is between 7-9.
Short of subscribing to the $6 per month Spaceweather.com telephone service, that will call you when a geomagnetic/auroral storm is ongoing << http://spaceweather.com/ >>, you can monitor likely storm times during periods of very high activity (such as the next few days) by using data products of the Space Environment Center of NOAA.
Basically, look for likely kp events of 7 or higher for northern Utah and 8 or 9 for southern Utah:
1) Space Environment Center current kp index You can follow the 30 minute time delayed geomagnetic index - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html#satenv
2) Costello index. The most useful index during periods of high activity is the 30-90 minute Costello geomagnetic index predicator at - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rpc/costello/index.html
This will give you a 30 minute prediction for when a high 8-9 kp storm might reach you latitude.
3) POES auroral activity map. You can follow the POES auroral activity maps and watch for when the auroral "tail" swings to low latitudes and is pointed at Utah during the night - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/pmap/index.html
4) U of Alasksa GSE Javascript forecast movie. A more obscure forecast tool (that I can give you more info on) is the U of Alasksa GSE Javascript forecast movie that gives - on a 24 hour time scale, some idea of when a CME will hit the Earth and cause a display. http://gse.gi.alaska.edu/recent/javascript_movie.html
5) Space Environment Center High Kp Warning Email. You can subscribe to the SEC's kp warning data product (set to the highest level). They will email during high geomagnetic storms. Limit your subscription to the WARK07 and ALTK09 data products. Northern Utah subscribers might want to add the ALTK08 and ALTK09 warnings. https://pss.sec.noaa.gov/ See - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/alerts/AlertsTable.html#geomag
- Canopus56(Kurt)
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--- astrodeb@charter.net wrote: <snip> If we get another alert, I may just pack my
camera and telescope and head north.
The Costello index and SEC kp plot are helpful to lower the "bust" ratio on distance driving for aurora - especially at $3.10 a gallon. They have reduced my "bust" rate down from 2/3 "no-see an aurora" to 2/3 "see an aurora." Even so, I still ocassionally sleep through some of the 3:00am displays. The Spaceweather.com telephone service is great for catching them. Guess I'm too cheap or too poor to shell out the $75 a year for the call service. - Canopus56(Kurt) P.S. - For northern Utah observers on a particular night, you can also check sci.astro.amateur for postings from the East coast. If the observers in lower Wisconsin or northern Penn are saying it's a great show, you've got an hour or so before the lowest part of the auroral band, the part opposite the Sun, will swing over Utah. If everyone is reporting from upper Wisconsin and US-Canadian border, then you probably won't get anything over Utah.
1) Space Environment Center current kp index You can follow the 30 minute time delayed geomagnetic index - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html#satenv
2) Costello index. The most useful index during periods of high activity is the 30-90 minute Costello geomagnetic index predicator at - http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rpc/costello/index.html
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Aloha "especially at $3.10 a gallon" I really had to laugh when I saw that, regular here on Maui is $4.18 and will go up tomorrow when the gas cap is reviewed and may be raised an additional 44c. So go have a nice drive .......................... :^) aloha Rob
--- Rob Ratkowski <ratkwski@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Aloha <snip> I really had to laugh when I saw that, regular here on Maui is $4.18 and will go up tomorrow when the gas cap is reviewed and may be raised an additional 44c. So go have a nice drive .......................... :^)
Yeh, but you can only drive what - maybe 5 miles - before you run of land? With surfing, beach-combing and astronomy taking up all your time, how long does a tank of gas last - three or four months? -:) ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Watch the Hurricane Katrina Shelter From The Storm concert http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/shelter
On the other hand, how far could you drive on a little bitty island? We mainlanders have to haul our gear 300 miles to reach a dark site .... -- former island kid Joe
Let's see from Pukalani to Kapalua is about an hour (40mi) and to Hana about 2 hrs (52 mi., 716 turns, 56 bridges) Up to Haleakala (10K ft) about an hour and to our winter south shore site about a half hour. Yup tiny island but the surfing, diving, beaches, warm tropical breezes, Pineapple Princesses and nice weather almost all the time, I do feel VERY LUCKY and VERY BLESSED and again, if anyone is out this way E KOMO MAI (welcome to my house). aloha Rob
I spent a couple of weeks in Hawaii 2 years ago and I was all over that Island (Oahu). I took the wife to see every nooki and grany that Island offered. I even got lost in Honolulu. I kept getting on those stupid one way streets and couldn't get off and kept going around in circles. It was like that movie "groundhog day". There were some old ladies on a street corner who kept yelling at me every time I came back around past them. When I did make it back to the Hotel, sometime in the early morning, I had what appeared to be the remnants of someones shopping bag hanging on my bumper. What ever was in it, was now long gone. Anyway, I filled the rental car up all of 2 times the whole time I was there. So with gas at $4.18 per gallon in Hawaii, you get to see a whole lot of 'pretty' for cheap. ;) Quoting Rob Ratkowski <ratkwski@hawaii.rr.com>:
Aloha
"especially at $3.10 a gallon" I really had to laugh when I saw that, regular here on Maui is $4.18 and will go up tomorrow when the gas cap is reviewed and may be raised an additional 44c. So go have a nice drive .......................... :^)
aloha Rob
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I liked nooki and grany, kinda cute :-) and did I mention we have great sky here too??
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