RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Meteorites on the Salt Flats
Oops - I misstated. The shell casings are .50 caliber, not 50mm - sorry for the confusion. BTW, Since the Salt Flats are an "historic site" the shell casings and/or anything else of historic interest or value are probably considered to be an "historic resource" and protected by both State and Federal laws regarding historic and/or archaeological sites. Therefore, I will follow-through with BLM and the State, USGS, and any other relevant agencies to get permission. Others will either have to do the same or join me when I go hunting again, probably this summer. Dave Bennett discovered a map somewhere that indicates known meteorite "fall" sites in Utah. Surprisingly, there are several. The one I remember is on or near Sevier Lake, another site I had considered before knowing others had already had success there. Maybe Dave will share that info? -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:11 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Meteorites on the Salt Flats Kim, are they really 50mm shells? Or .50 caliber? At worst, we could pick them up and sell them for scrap, or just clean the place up ("This part of the Salt Flats sponsored by SLAS"). We could also try different areas. By the racetrack, at the west end of the flats isn't the only place to look. If the snow doesn't come soon, we'll have lots of dry lake beds to check-out! Chuck --- Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> wrote:
For those interested in using metal detectors, you may want to consider how the numerous 50mm shell casings and other possible metallic debris (bullets?
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Sevier is exactly one of the areas I was thinking about...another thought is frozen lake surfaces, for very recent falls. It's been so warm this winter, though, I wonder if any of the larger lakes have frozen-over this year. I have a suspicion that Utah ice-fishermen are having fits. Kim, are all items on BLM land protected? I mean, could we get in trouble for taking the meteorites themselves? I know that taking a living plant from BLM land is forbidden; it's not just artifacts. Chuck --- Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> wrote:
Dave Bennett discovered a map somewhere that indicates known meteorite "fall" sites in Utah. Surprisingly, there are several. The one I remember is on or near Sevier Lake, another site I had considered before knowing others had already had success there. Maybe Dave will share that info?
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Excuse me for butting again. At the ALCOM meeting last summer at the U there was a map for sell that showed many recovery sites, it showed a rather larger meteorite recovered in Salina, which interested me since that is where I live. I did not buy the map but I believe it is available through the organization. Sevier Lake was also on the map. There was a special on one of the science channels about a man who has found several there driving it with a metal detector. Wayne -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kim Hyatt Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:19 PM To: 'utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Meteorites on the Salt Flats Oops - I misstated. The shell casings are .50 caliber, not 50mm - sorry for the confusion. BTW, Since the Salt Flats are an "historic site" the shell casings and/or anything else of historic interest or value are probably considered to be an "historic resource" and protected by both State and Federal laws regarding historic and/or archaeological sites. Therefore, I will follow-through with BLM and the State, USGS, and any other relevant agencies to get permission. Others will either have to do the same or join me when I go hunting again, probably this summer. Dave Bennett discovered a map somewhere that indicates known meteorite "fall" sites in Utah. Surprisingly, there are several. The one I remember is on or near Sevier Lake, another site I had considered before knowing others had already had success there. Maybe Dave will share that info? -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:11 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Meteorites on the Salt Flats Kim, are they really 50mm shells? Or .50 caliber? At worst, we could pick them up and sell them for scrap, or just clean the place up ("This part of the Salt Flats sponsored by SLAS"). We could also try different areas. By the racetrack, at the west end of the flats isn't the only place to look. If the snow doesn't come soon, we'll have lots of dry lake beds to check-out! Chuck --- Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> wrote:
For those interested in using metal detectors, you may want to consider how the numerous 50mm shell casings and other possible metallic debris (bullets?
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Good info, Wayne. And you are not butting-in at all, that's what the list is here for. Chuck --- Wayne Reese <wreese@hubwest.com> wrote:
Excuse me for butting again. At the ALCOM meeting last summer at the U there was a map for sell that showed many recovery sites,
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The map that I have seen before is available at http://www.meteoritemaps.com/ but does not show any good close ups of the West. I did find a close up or two of Utah on another site but can't seem to make it back there. Luckily I saved the pics and have put them and a key on a website I use for temporary items: http://12.254.204.46/~dlb/ From the key it looks like the ones found in Utah have been mostly Chrondites (H & L?) and a few Iron meteorites. The area just West of Salina near Sevier Lake looks like the best bet. On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 02:19 PM, Kim Hyatt wrote:
Dave Bennett discovered a map somewhere that indicates known meteorite "fall" sites in Utah. Surprisingly, there are several. The one I remember is on or near Sevier Lake, another site I had considered before knowing others had already had success there. Maybe Dave will share that info?
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I'll try again later. Mr. Gates may be toying with me again. This has to be on my short list of all-time favorite threads. You just KNOW that something's going to happen this summer!! Chuck __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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