The half-century tradition of Riverside has officially come to an end. Thanks to Steve Dodds for the heads-up. http://rtmcastronomyexpo.org/ Sad news.
That is sad news. ATM is on its last legs, if not already dead. I have fond memories of a group of SLASers going to the RTMC in caravans of cars, but that was the early 1980s. Always thought it would still be there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:44:21 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more The half-century tradition of Riverside has officially come to an end. Thanks to Steve Dodds for the heads-up. http://rtmcastronomyexpo.org/ Sad news. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
ATM is far from dead, Joan. Stellafane is sill very much alive and there are online networks and publications exclusively for ATMs. Still very big in Oregon and the west coast especially, besides New England. And have you forgotten about the largest amateur-made telescope in the world? Mike is pretty much the King of ATMS. ATMing is no longer a major portion of the hobby thanks to a much enlarged consumer product base than there used to be, but there are a larger total number of folks making telescopes than ever before. The Maker movement and home 3D design, printing, and CNC are transforming the activity. What's not so prevalent anymore is the old spirit of making-do with common materials. That was done out of need, but it's no longer the case. What killed Riverside was the move to end of summer, from late spring. The organizers could no longer afford Camp Oaks due to other activities outbidding them for the Memorial Day weekend, and the resulting lower fall attendance made it no longer financially viable. I suspect something may rise from the ashes to replace it. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
That is sad news. ATM is on its last legs, if not already dead. I have fond memories of a group of SLASers going to the RTMC in caravans of cars, but that was the early 1980s. Always thought it would still be there.
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The half-century tradition of Riverside has officially come to an end. Thanks to Steve Dodds for the heads-up.
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I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:33:52 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more ATM is far from dead, Joan. Stellafane is sill very much alive and there are online networks and publications exclusively for ATMs. Still very big in Oregon and the west coast especially, besides New England. And have you forgotten about the largest amateur-made telescope in the world? Mike is pretty much the King of ATMS. ATMing is no longer a major portion of the hobby thanks to a much enlarged consumer product base than there used to be, but there are a larger total number of folks making telescopes than ever before. The Maker movement and home 3D design, printing, and CNC are transforming the activity. What's not so prevalent anymore is the old spirit of making-do with common materials. That was done out of need, but it's no longer the case. What killed Riverside was the move to end of summer, from late spring. The organizers could no longer afford Camp Oaks due to other activities outbidding them for the Memorial Day weekend, and the resulting lower fall attendance made it no longer financially viable. I suspect something may rise from the ashes to replace it. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
That is sad news. ATM is on its last legs, if not already dead. I have fond memories of a group of SLASers going to the RTMC in caravans of cars, but that was the early 1980s. Always thought it would still be there.
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The half-century tradition of Riverside has officially come to an end. Thanks to Steve Dodds for the heads-up.
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When was the last time you saw *me* at a star party? ;) Home-made scopes are all I use when actually "observing", even though I have collected quite a few commercial scopes over the years. They rarely see action because my home-made scopes have much better optics. ATMing is now a bit of an industry all it's own. Many of it's practitioners are professional engineers or scientists, and are using digital advances to aid in their work. Technology moves on, the tools of the ATM have changed, but they are still out there in large numbers. John Dobson wasn't really in the mainstream ATM tradition, but his ideas live-on today. He wasn't interested in making the design better because his interest was only in seeing. The scope was merely a means to an end, whereas most ATMs enjoy the activity of telescope design and construction as much or more than observing. The Salt Lake club started out heavy with ATM people, I remember the 70's. Today it has become more of a social event, an excuse for people to get together. The activity of astronomy is very much second these days. Back in the old days, we came up with events for members only, today it's largely focused on outreach. The more technically savvy ATMer of today is typically a lone wolf, not a socializer. Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a gentleman from Ogden who is older than I am (I'm 61) and has been interested in astronomy for decades. He owns a very large Dob and is currently building a large Newt for his weekend get-away home in a rural area. Yet he has never joined a club and has no interest in joining a club. I think there are a lot more "no club" types out there than there are regular club meeting types. It may be that the traditional astronomy club is actually the living fossil. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :)
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John Dobson, RIP, made telescopes and the night sky available to everyone by creating a low cost telescope (port hole glass for mirrors). Engineers and scientists using 3D printers do not support that vision. You're probably right in that ATM is alive and well, it's just way out there in right field and has lost touch with the common person (trying not to be gender specific :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more When was the last time you saw *me* at a star party? ;) Home-made scopes are all I use when actually "observing", even though I have collected quite a few commercial scopes over the years. They rarely see action because my home-made scopes have much better optics. ATMing is now a bit of an industry all it's own. Many of it's practitioners are professional engineers or scientists, and are using digital advances to aid in their work. Technology moves on, the tools of the ATM have changed, but they are still out there in large numbers. John Dobson wasn't really in the mainstream ATM tradition, but his ideas live-on today. He wasn't interested in making the design better because his interest was only in seeing. The scope was merely a means to an end, whereas most ATMs enjoy the activity of telescope design and construction as much or more than observing. The Salt Lake club started out heavy with ATM people, I remember the 70's. Today it has become more of a social event, an excuse for people to get together. The activity of astronomy is very much second these days. Back in the old days, we came up with events for members only, today it's largely focused on outreach. The more technically savvy ATMer of today is typically a lone wolf, not a socializer. Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a gentleman from Ogden who is older than I am (I'm 61) and has been interested in astronomy for decades. He owns a very large Dob and is currently building a large Newt for his weekend get-away home in a rural area. Yet he has never joined a club and has no interest in joining a club. I think there are a lot more "no club" types out there than there are regular club meeting types. It may be that the traditional astronomy club is actually the living fossil. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :)
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Joan, I was an ATM before I heard of John Dobson. To me, what he proved is that a large alt-az mounted Newtonian could be a useful telescope. Everything else about his design was crude and minimalist. They worked, but not optimally. It doesn't diminish what he did, but establishing a new paradigm was his true contribution- not showing how to build a budget telescope from whatever is on-hand. That tradition predated Dobson by decades. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
John Dobson, RIP, made telescopes and the night sky available to everyone by creating a low cost telescope (port hole glass for mirrors). Engineers and scientists using 3D printers do not support that vision. You're probably right in that ATM is alive and well, it's just way out there in right field and has lost touch with the common person (trying not to be gender specific :))
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more
When was the last time you saw *me* at a star party? ;)
Home-made scopes are all I use when actually "observing", even though I have collected quite a few commercial scopes over the years. They rarely see action because my home-made scopes have much better optics.
ATMing is now a bit of an industry all it's own. Many of it's practitioners are professional engineers or scientists, and are using digital advances to aid in their work. Technology moves on, the tools of the ATM have changed, but they are still out there in large numbers.
John Dobson wasn't really in the mainstream ATM tradition, but his ideas live-on today. He wasn't interested in making the design better because his interest was only in seeing. The scope was merely a means to an end, whereas most ATMs enjoy the activity of telescope design and construction as much or more than observing.
The Salt Lake club started out heavy with ATM people, I remember the 70's. Today it has become more of a social event, an excuse for people to get together. The activity of astronomy is very much second these days. Back in the old days, we came up with events for members only, today it's largely focused on outreach. The more technically savvy ATMer of today is typically a lone wolf, not a socializer.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a gentleman from Ogden who is older than I am (I'm 61) and has been interested in astronomy for decades. He owns a very large Dob and is currently building a large Newt for his weekend get-away home in a rural area. Yet he has never joined a club and has no interest in joining a club. I think there are a lot more "no club" types out there than there are regular club meeting types.
It may be that the traditional astronomy club is actually the living fossil.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :)
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It's not that I disagree with you Chuck, it's just that we have different focuses for our interest in astronomy. There is a vast need, particularly now, for science education in America and astronomy is the oldest science and perhaps the easiest to share with the masses. There is a great thirst for such information even in Utah. Dobson started the Sidewalk Astronomers and continued to do it almost to the day he died. He very much wanted to share the night sky with everyone. Reconnect to the universe, if you will. How an individual explores his interest in astronomy is up to the individual. If you want to do if for your own pleasure or the challenge of building something, you're not wrong, just different. And different is the spice of life. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:19:52 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more Joan, I was an ATM before I heard of John Dobson. To me, what he proved is that a large alt-az mounted Newtonian could be a useful telescope. Everything else about his design was crude and minimalist. They worked, but not optimally. It doesn't diminish what he did, but establishing a new paradigm was his true contribution- not showing how to build a budget telescope from whatever is on-hand. That tradition predated Dobson by decades. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
John Dobson, RIP, made telescopes and the night sky available to everyone by creating a low cost telescope (port hole glass for mirrors). Engineers and scientists using 3D printers do not support that vision. You're probably right in that ATM is alive and well, it's just way out there in right field and has lost touch with the common person (trying not to be gender specific :))
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more
When was the last time you saw *me* at a star party? ;)
Home-made scopes are all I use when actually "observing", even though I have collected quite a few commercial scopes over the years. They rarely see action because my home-made scopes have much better optics.
ATMing is now a bit of an industry all it's own. Many of it's practitioners are professional engineers or scientists, and are using digital advances to aid in their work. Technology moves on, the tools of the ATM have changed, but they are still out there in large numbers.
John Dobson wasn't really in the mainstream ATM tradition, but his ideas live-on today. He wasn't interested in making the design better because his interest was only in seeing. The scope was merely a means to an end, whereas most ATMs enjoy the activity of telescope design and construction as much or more than observing.
The Salt Lake club started out heavy with ATM people, I remember the 70's. Today it has become more of a social event, an excuse for people to get together. The activity of astronomy is very much second these days. Back in the old days, we came up with events for members only, today it's largely focused on outreach. The more technically savvy ATMer of today is typically a lone wolf, not a socializer.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a gentleman from Ogden who is older than I am (I'm 61) and has been interested in astronomy for decades. He owns a very large Dob and is currently building a large Newt for his weekend get-away home in a rural area. Yet he has never joined a club and has no interest in joining a club. I think there are a lot more "no club" types out there than there are regular club meeting types.
It may be that the traditional astronomy club is actually the living fossil.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :)
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I don't doubt what you are saying, Joan, I just don't see ATMing suffering at all today. Dobson did breathe new life into it, but his death didn't diminish it. Still going very strong today. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:45 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
It's not that I disagree with you Chuck, it's just that we have different focuses for our interest in astronomy. There is a vast need, particularly now, for science education in America and astronomy is the oldest science and perhaps the easiest to share with the masses. There is a great thirst for such information even in Utah. Dobson started the Sidewalk Astronomers and continued to do it almost to the day he died. He very much wanted to share the night sky with everyone. Reconnect to the universe, if you will. How an individual explores his interest in astronomy is up to the individual. If you want to do if for your own pleasure or the challenge of building something, you're not wrong, just different. And different is the spice of life. :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:19:52 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more
Joan, I was an ATM before I heard of John Dobson. To me, what he proved is that a large alt-az mounted Newtonian could be a useful telescope. Everything else about his design was crude and minimalist. They worked, but not optimally. It doesn't diminish what he did, but establishing a new paradigm was his true contribution- not showing how to build a budget telescope from whatever is on-hand. That tradition predated Dobson by decades.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
John Dobson, RIP, made telescopes and the night sky available to everyone by creating a low cost telescope (port hole glass for mirrors). Engineers and scientists using 3D printers do not support that vision. You're probably right in that ATM is alive and well, it's just way out there in right field and has lost touch with the common person (trying not to be gender specific :))
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more
When was the last time you saw *me* at a star party? ;)
Home-made scopes are all I use when actually "observing", even though I have collected quite a few commercial scopes over the years. They rarely see action because my home-made scopes have much better optics.
ATMing is now a bit of an industry all it's own. Many of it's practitioners are professional engineers or scientists, and are using digital advances to aid in their work. Technology moves on, the tools of the ATM have changed, but they are still out there in large numbers.
John Dobson wasn't really in the mainstream ATM tradition, but his ideas live-on today. He wasn't interested in making the design better because his interest was only in seeing. The scope was merely a means to an end, whereas most ATMs enjoy the activity of telescope design and construction as much or more than observing.
The Salt Lake club started out heavy with ATM people, I remember the 70's. Today it has become more of a social event, an excuse for people to get together. The activity of astronomy is very much second these days. Back in the old days, we came up with events for members only, today it's largely focused on outreach. The more technically savvy ATMer of today is typically a lone wolf, not a socializer.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a gentleman from Ogden who is older than I am (I'm 61) and has been interested in astronomy for decades. He owns a very large Dob and is currently building a large Newt for his weekend get-away home in a rural area. Yet he has never joined a club and has no interest in joining a club. I think there are a lot more "no club" types out there than there are regular club meeting types.
It may be that the traditional astronomy club is actually the living fossil.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :)
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I agree with Chuck. Home built scopes truly do outperform the mass produced scopes of today. The big apo refractors available today are a possible exception. There is great satisfaction to be had by "rolling your own" so to speak. The mass produced scopes are usually more sophisticated with go to mounts, but I feel like many folks who have them really don't have an appreciation for visual astronomy. That includes knowing constellations and individual stars as well as feel for where things are in the sky. Not all, but many fit this category. There is a great appreciation that comes with the meaning of the rising of Capella or seeing the first of the winter hexagon appear. I will continue to bring my home made scopes to star parties that I attend. That's all I have. I have never owned a commercial scope for more than a couple of weeks. BTW, I just finished a new telescope. It employs a 13.1 inch f6 mirror made and signed by John Dobson at a workshop at my house almost 30 years ago, and is on a Dobson mount. I call it John's Dobson. Its going to Phoenix with me and I expect to engage in a bit of sidewalk astronomy with it through the winter months. On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 01:09:06 PM MDT, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote: I don't doubt what you are saying, Joan, I just don't see ATMing suffering at all today. Dobson did breathe new life into it, but his death didn't diminish it. Still going very strong today. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:45 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
It's not that I disagree with you Chuck, it's just that we have different focuses for our interest in astronomy. There is a vast need, particularly now, for science education in America and astronomy is the oldest science and perhaps the easiest to share with the masses. There is a great thirst for such information even in Utah. Dobson started the Sidewalk Astronomers and continued to do it almost to the day he died. He very much wanted to share the night sky with everyone. Reconnect to the universe, if you will. How an individual explores his interest in astronomy is up to the individual. If you want to do if for your own pleasure or the challenge of building something, you're not wrong, just different. And different is the spice of life. :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:19:52 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more
Joan, I was an ATM before I heard of John Dobson. To me, what he proved is that a large alt-az mounted Newtonian could be a useful telescope. Everything else about his design was crude and minimalist. They worked, but not optimally. It doesn't diminish what he did, but establishing a new paradigm was his true contribution- not showing how to build a budget telescope from whatever is on-hand. That tradition predated Dobson by decades.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
John Dobson, RIP, made telescopes and the night sky available to everyone by creating a low cost telescope (port hole glass for mirrors). Engineers and scientists using 3D printers do not support that vision. You're probably right in that ATM is alive and well, it's just way out there in right field and has lost touch with the common person (trying not to be gender specific :))
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hards" <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] RTMC is no more
When was the last time you saw *me* at a star party? ;)
Home-made scopes are all I use when actually "observing", even though I have collected quite a few commercial scopes over the years. They rarely see action because my home-made scopes have much better optics.
ATMing is now a bit of an industry all it's own. Many of it's practitioners are professional engineers or scientists, and are using digital advances to aid in their work. Technology moves on, the tools of the ATM have changed, but they are still out there in large numbers.
John Dobson wasn't really in the mainstream ATM tradition, but his ideas live-on today. He wasn't interested in making the design better because his interest was only in seeing. The scope was merely a means to an end, whereas most ATMs enjoy the activity of telescope design and construction as much or more than observing.
The Salt Lake club started out heavy with ATM people, I remember the 70's. Today it has become more of a social event, an excuse for people to get together. The activity of astronomy is very much second these days. Back in the old days, we came up with events for members only, today it's largely focused on outreach. The more technically savvy ATMer of today is typically a lone wolf, not a socializer.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I met a gentleman from Ogden who is older than I am (I'm 61) and has been interested in astronomy for decades. He owns a very large Dob and is currently building a large Newt for his weekend get-away home in a rural area. Yet he has never joined a club and has no interest in joining a club. I think there are a lot more "no club" types out there than there are regular club meeting types.
It may be that the traditional astronomy club is actually the living fossil.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM Joan Carman <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I'll bend to your knowledge Chuck, but I doubt John Dobson would have appreciated 3D printers :) or when was the last time you saw a home built telescope at a star party (Watson excepted) :)
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Wow, that’s sad. Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
The half-century tradition of Riverside has officially come to an end. Thanks to Steve Dodds for the heads-up.
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I *always* intended to go "some day". Now it appears that is no longer possible. But, as Chuck mentioned ATMing still alive and becoming more sophisticated. I know Mel Bartels is building big Zip Dobs that are f3.0 and faster. Also, I've seen a couple different spectroscopes (LowSpec2) that are being produced using 3D printers. So amateurs are alive and well - just getting older. Clear skies, Dale. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:28 AM Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Wow, that’s sad.
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The half-century tradition of Riverside has officially come to an end. Thanks to Steve Dodds for the heads-up.
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Why don't they move it to Las Vegas? Rooms would be cheaper and I could play video poker as well. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 8:46 AM Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
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It would be hard to evaluate optics at night from Vegas, but I do like the way you think, Debbie! On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Debbie Whitaker <astrodeb777@gmail.com> wrote:
Why don't they move it to Las Vegas? Rooms would be cheaper and I could play video poker as well.
be or edit options".
You head into CA and turn off at Zzyx Rd up above the light dome of Vegas. Or go north towards Overton, NV. Las Vegas Astronomy club is alive and well. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:41 PM Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be hard to evaluate optics at night from Vegas, but I do like the way you think, Debbie!
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Debbie Whitaker <astrodeb777@gmail.com> wrote:
Why don't they move it to Las Vegas? Rooms would be cheaper and I could play video poker as well.
be or edit options".
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Or the Grand Canyon-Parashant National Monument. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 2:05 PM Debbie Whitaker <astrodeb777@gmail.com> wrote:
You head into CA and turn off at Zzyx Rd up above the light dome of Vegas. Or go north towards Overton, NV. Las Vegas Astronomy club is alive and well.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:41 PM Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be hard to evaluate optics at night from Vegas, but I do like the way you think, Debbie!
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:18 PM Debbie Whitaker <astrodeb777@gmail.com> wrote:
Why don't they move it to Las Vegas? Rooms would be cheaper and I could play video poker as well.
be or edit options".
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