Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam? http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images. Any thoughts? patrick
Reading the second page, it looks like that's an optional add on. The software will take the image and store it on a server for later viewing. Meteors aside, it'd be handy to judge the amount of clouds in the sky over SPOC. Dan On Jul 13, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam?
http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf
There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images.
Any thoughts?
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Patrick, I do not recall any conversation about meteors. I brought it before the board as I thought it would be a valuable visual aid to members about the sky conditions at SPOC.. It would be a nice tool for those living outside the Stansbury area before making a decision to drive out to the observatories. I guess recording anything else would be an added bonus. lh On 7/13/2011 12:50 AM, Daniel Holmes wrote:
Reading the second page, it looks like that's an optional add on. The software will take the image and store it on a server for later viewing.
Meteors aside, it'd be handy to judge the amount of clouds in the sky over SPOC.
Dan
On Jul 13, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Patrick Wiggins<paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam?
http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf
There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images.
Any thoughts?
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Along with a weather station... Dan On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Patrick, I do not recall any conversation about meteors. I brought it before the board as I thought it would be a valuable visual aid to members about the sky conditions at SPOC.. It would be a nice tool for those living outside the Stansbury area before making a decision to drive out to the observatories. I guess recording anything else would be an added bonus. lh
On 7/13/2011 12:50 AM, Daniel Holmes wrote:
Reading the second page, it looks like that's an optional add on. The software will take the image and store it on a server for later viewing.
Meteors aside, it'd be handy to judge the amount of clouds in the sky over SPOC.
Dan
On Jul 13, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Patrick Wiggins<paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam?
http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf
There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images.
Any thoughts?
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Patrick, I am not intimately familiar with that camera, but I think that those folks were at ALCON. I spoke with them about it and they said that the software (an optional purchase) will start recording when it detects a meteor or other bright moving object. He said that it often get planes, satellites, etc., but that you can review them later and delete the false alarms to save disk space. I am considering one for my observatory. It look pretty cool and seems like it might be a great addition to SPOC. Cheers, Tyler -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:36 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam? http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images. Any thoughts? patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
They were at ALCON. But why would we want one. We can see the conditions when we're there. That's better than a camera. The marketing purpose of the camera is for remote observatory use to show weather status and cloud cover. We're right there. We are not remote. Who cares about the meteor recording? Do we care about that as a club? Just because it's available doesn't mean we need one. Siegfried On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tyler Allred <tylerallred@earthlink.net>wrote:
Patrick, I am not intimately familiar with that camera, but I think that those folks were at ALCON. I spoke with them about it and they said that the software (an optional purchase) will start recording when it detects a meteor or other bright moving object. He said that it often get planes, satellites, etc., but that you can review them later and delete the false alarms to save disk space. I am considering one for my observatory. It look pretty cool and seems like it might be a great addition to SPOC. Cheers, Tyler
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:36 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam
Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam?
http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf
There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images.
Any thoughts?
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Isn't it Patrick's purpose to give us SPOC cloud cover reports? A SkyCam would be redundant.
They were at ALCON. But why would we want one. We can see the conditions
when we're there. That's better than a camera. The marketing purpose of the camera is for remote observatory use to show weather status and cloud cover. We're right there. We are not remote.
Who cares about the meteor recording? Do we care about that as a club? Just because it's available doesn't mean we need one.
Siegfried
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tyler Allred <tylerallred@earthlink.net>wrote:
Patrick, I am not intimately familiar with that camera, but I think that those folks were at ALCON. I spoke with them about it and they said that the software (an optional purchase) will start recording when it detects a meteor or other bright moving object. He said that it often get planes, satellites, etc., but that you can review them later and delete the false alarms to save disk space. I am considering one for my observatory. It look pretty cool and seems like it might be a great addition to SPOC. Cheers, Tyler
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:36 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam
Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam?
http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf
There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images.
Any thoughts?
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Ziggy, with all due respect, some of us aren't right there. Looking in that direction from my house on the east side of SLC, I've seen it completely socked in over Kennecott. Then driven out, and it's perfect blue sky. And vice versa. I'd imagine it's even worse for those that live on the south end of the valley. Clear dark sky isn't always perfect either, at least not here. Last night was supposed to be no clouds, I could only see arcturus and Vega through the cirrus nebula.. How much are we talking for one of the cams? I'd be willing to kick in $50-75 towards one... Dan On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
They were at ALCON. But why would we want one. We can see the conditions when we're there. That's better than a camera. The marketing purpose of the camera is for remote observatory use to show weather status and cloud cover. We're right there. We are not remote.
Who cares about the meteor recording? Do we care about that as a club? Just because it's available doesn't mean we need one.
Siegfried
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Tyler Allred <tylerallred@earthlink.net>wrote:
Patrick, I am not intimately familiar with that camera, but I think that those folks were at ALCON. I spoke with them about it and they said that the software (an optional purchase) will start recording when it detects a meteor or other bright moving object. He said that it often get planes, satellites, etc., but that you can review them later and delete the false alarms to save disk space. I am considering one for my observatory. It look pretty cool and seems like it might be a great addition to SPOC. Cheers, Tyler
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:36 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam
Anyone here happen to be familiar with this all sky cam?
http://www.moonglowtech.com/products/AllSkyCam/SalesSheet.pdf
There was talk at last evening's SLAS meeting about possibly installing one at SPOC for recoding meteors. But we were not sure how one goes about recording the images.
Any thoughts?
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I agree. I live in Kaysville and the sky here is often very different than the sky at SPOC. I'd love to be able to see what the skies look like over SPOC before I make the 45-50 minute drive out there. I don't really care about meteors but it's nice to know we can do it some get s a wild hair up their... It would certainly be a nice thing to have if it makes sense with our current computer system and meets many members needs. Obviously the folks living out near SPOC won't need it. It's also something we don't need for just a few members (like me). Perhaps this is a good discussion item at a future meeting as the cost while not out of line will be worth a discussion. Bob -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:29 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam Ziggy, with all due respect, some of us aren't right there. Looking in that direction from my house on the east side of SLC, I've seen it completely socked in over Kennecott. Then driven out, and it's perfect blue sky. And vice versa. I'd imagine it's even worse for those that live on the south end of the valley. Clear dark sky isn't always perfect either, at least not here. Last night was supposed to be no clouds, I could only see arcturus and Vega through the cirrus nebula.. How much are we talking for one of the cams? I'd be willing to kick in $50-75 towards one... Dan On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote:
Hi all, I just got off the phone with the lady who co-owns the place (turns out they also own DayStar). After speaking with her I don't think it would work very well as a device to let folks elsewhere see the sky at SPOC as the camera would have to be powered on all the time as would a computer and internet link. Keep in mind that SPOC's internet service is donated by Wireless Beehive. No doubt they don't mind since we only use the connection a few times a month. They might not be so accommodating if we suddenly started sending video over it 24/7. I was thinking of having one at my place which would work in concert with one at SPOC and hopefully with one other elsewhere in the region (Tyler?) in order to do meteor research. But the only software they've got now runs on Windows which rules out one at my place. patrick On 14 Jul 2011, at 14:48, Robert Taylor wrote:
I agree. I live in Kaysville and the sky here is often very different than the sky at SPOC. I'd love to be able to see what the skies look like over SPOC before I make the 45-50 minute drive out there. I don't really care about meteors but it's nice to know we can do it some get s a wild hair up their...
It would certainly be a nice thing to have if it makes sense with our current computer system and meets many members needs. Obviously the folks living out near SPOC won't need it. It's also something we don't need for just a few members (like me). Perhaps this is a good discussion item at a future meeting as the cost while not out of line will be worth a discussion.
Bob
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:29 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam
Ziggy, with all due respect, some of us aren't right there. Looking in that direction from my house on the east side of SLC, I've seen it completely socked in over Kennecott. Then driven out, and it's perfect blue sky. And vice versa. I'd imagine it's even worse for those that live on the south end of the valley.
Clear dark sky isn't always perfect either, at least not here. Last night was supposed to be no clouds, I could only see arcturus and Vega through the cirrus nebula..
How much are we talking for one of the cams? I'd be willing to kick in $50-75 towards one...
Dan
Good point Patrick...I didn't realize the 'net connection was donated at SPOC. Thanks for looking into this. Thanks, Dan On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
Hi all,
I just got off the phone with the lady who co-owns the place (turns out they also own DayStar).
After speaking with her I don't think it would work very well as a device to let folks elsewhere see the sky at SPOC as the camera would have to be powered on all the time as would a computer and internet link. Keep in mind that SPOC's internet service is donated by Wireless Beehive. No doubt they don't mind since we only use the connection a few times a month. They might not be so accommodating if we suddenly started sending video over it 24/7.
I was thinking of having one at my place which would work in concert with one at SPOC and hopefully with one other elsewhere in the region (Tyler?) in order to do meteor research. But the only software they've got now runs on Windows which rules out one at my place.
patrick
On 14 Jul 2011, at 14:48, Robert Taylor wrote:
I agree. I live in Kaysville and the sky here is often very different than the sky at SPOC. I'd love to be able to see what the skies look like over SPOC before I make the 45-50 minute drive out there. I don't really care about meteors but it's nice to know we can do it some get s a wild hair up their...
It would certainly be a nice thing to have if it makes sense with our current computer system and meets many members needs. Obviously the folks living out near SPOC won't need it. It's also something we don't need for just a few members (like me). Perhaps this is a good discussion item at a future meeting as the cost while not out of line will be worth a discussion.
Bob
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:29 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam
Ziggy, with all due respect, some of us aren't right there. Looking in that direction from my house on the east side of SLC, I've seen it completely socked in over Kennecott. Then driven out, and it's perfect blue sky. And vice versa. I'd imagine it's even worse for those that live on the south end of the valley.
Clear dark sky isn't always perfect either, at least not here. Last night was supposed to be no clouds, I could only see arcturus and Vega through the cirrus nebula..
How much are we talking for one of the cams? I'd be willing to kick in $50-75 towards one...
Dan
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There is no upside to this other than the cool techy appeal . You can already get great pictures online at the NWS websites. You can see how the clouds have moved over the last few hours and project what they are going to do for the next few hours. Knowing what it's like right now from a camera won't help because the weather conditions change much faster than it takes to drive out there. DT From: Robert Taylor <robtaylorslc@gmail.com> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam I agree. I live in Kaysville and the sky here is often very different than the sky at SPOC. I'd love to be able to see what the skies look like over SPOC before I make the 45-50 minute drive out there. I don't really care about meteors but it's nice to know we can do it some get s a wild hair up their... It would certainly be a nice thing to have if it makes sense with our current computer system and meets many members needs. Obviously the folks living out near SPOC won't need it. It's also something we don't need for just a few members (like me). Perhaps this is a good discussion item at a future meeting as the cost while not out of line will be worth a discussion. Bob -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:29 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] All Sky Cam Ziggy, with all due respect, some of us aren't right there. Looking in that direction from my house on the east side of SLC, I've seen it completely socked in over Kennecott. Then driven out, and it's perfect blue sky. And vice versa. I'd imagine it's even worse for those that live on the south end of the valley. Clear dark sky isn't always perfect either, at least not here. Last night was supposed to be no clouds, I could only see arcturus and Vega through the cirrus nebula.. How much are we talking for one of the cams? I'd be willing to kick in $50-75 towards one... Dan On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> wrote: _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
Agreed. Really not much good for just checking the sky. But I'd still like to get involved in meteor research as detailed here: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/01mar_meteornetwor... I checked and it looks like that program still east of the Mississippi but I emailed them expressing interest should they decide to go west. Cheers, patrick On 14 Jul 2011, at 16:51, daniel turner wrote:
There is no upside to this other than the cool techy appeal .
You can already get great pictures online at the NWS websites. You can see how the clouds have moved over the last few hours and project what they are going to do for the next few hours.
Knowing what it's like right now from a camera won't help because the weather conditions change much faster than it takes to drive out there.
DT
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