Was in Arizona this past weekend and took the opportunity to go to Barringer Meteor Crater located closer to Winslow, but way outside Flagstaff on highway 40. Some of the board members have been there. The crater is located on a high desert plain, elevation 6,000 feet (abt 2,000 meters). The plain is not totally flat, but slighly rolling mounds. Exit 233 is Meteor Crater Road and the crater itself is about 6 miles off of highway 40. Really in the middle of nowhere. All I could think about on those almost 6 miles was Wow, what low horizons - in all directions, the view at night must be spectactular. Then I went around a small mound and saw the outside of the crater rising 100+ feet from the plain floor. Just as if I was driving up to a crater on the moon. My jaw dropped. I took a few pictures and the link follows - Enjoy http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/media/set/?set=a.4605827825763.1... According to a map on the meteor crater website, there is a very old impact crater in south eastern Utah - looks like within the Capitol Reef boundaries. Anyone seen it? Also on the same map it shows a number of impact sites in the eastern U.S., but only a few in the western U.S. Anybody got a reason why?
Joan, Yes, I’ve been to the impact site in southeast Utah. It’s called Upheaval Dome. From the air it seems pretty obvious that it’s an impact structure. If I’m not mistaken, I think Gene Shoemaker was one of the people who identified it as a possible impact site. From the ground, without the explanation of the Park Service marquee, it’s very difficult to make out the characteristics of an impact. The road to Upheaval Dome is between Moab and Monticello and the turn-off is clearly marked. I was raised in Moab. I’ve been to the site several times. It is interesting. Dave On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:02 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
Was in Arizona this past weekend and took the opportunity to go to Barringer Meteor Crater located closer to Winslow, but way outside Flagstaff on highway 40. Some of the board members have been there. The crater is located on a high desert plain, elevation 6,000 feet (abt 2,000 meters). The plain is not totally flat, but slighly rolling mounds. Exit 233 is Meteor Crater Road and the crater itself is about 6 miles off of highway 40. Really in the middle of nowhere. All I could think about on those almost 6 miles was Wow, what low horizons - in all directions, the view at night must be spectactular. Then I went around a small mound and saw the outside of the crater rising 100+ feet from the plain floor. Just as if I was driving up to a crater on the moon. My jaw dropped. I took a few pictures and the link follows - Enjoy
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/media/set/?set=a.4605827825763.1...
According to a map on the meteor crater website, there is a very old impact crater in south eastern Utah - looks like within the Capitol Reef boundaries. Anyone seen it? Also on the same map it shows a number of impact sites in the eastern U.S., but only a few in the western U.S. Anybody got a reason why? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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My dad was born in AZ (1922), and recounted to me that he spent one summer working for a guy that had some kind of concession stand near the crater -- a place he called "Rimmy Jims". I don't have a clear memory of the crater, but I'm pretty sure he took the family there when I was very young. Regardless, I need to plan a return trip one of these days. Thanks for sharing this Joan. /R ________________________________ From: "jcarman6@q.com" <jcarman6@q.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Barringer Was in Arizona this past weekend and took the opportunity to go to Barringer Meteor Crater located closer to Winslow, but way outside Flagstaff on highway 40. Some of the board members have been there. The crater is located on a high desert plain, elevation 6,000 feet (abt 2,000 meters). The plain is not totally flat, but slighly rolling mounds. Exit 233 is Meteor Crater Road and the crater itself is about 6 miles off of highway 40. Really in the middle of nowhere. All I could think about on those almost 6 miles was Wow, what low horizons - in all directions, the view at night must be spectactular. Then I went around a small mound and saw the outside of the crater rising 100+ feet from the plain floor. Just as if I was driving up to a crater on the moon. My jaw dropped. I took a few pictures and the link follows - Enjoy http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/media/set/?set=a.4605827825763.1... According to a map on the meteor crater website, there is a very old impact crater in south eastern Utah - looks like within the Capitol Reef boundaries. Anyone seen it? Also on the same map it shows a number of impact sites in the eastern U.S., but only a few in the western U.S. Anybody got a reason why? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Somewhere I have a photo of Upheaval Dome from the air. It is very clear that it is an impact crater. There are several concentric rings piled up around the crater. I also discussed this with a friend of mine who is the past dean of the Geology school at U of Idaho and past president of the US Geological group (not the correct name, but you get the idea.) She was emphatic that Upheaval Dome is an impact crater. I'll try to find the photo. Thanks for posting, Joan. ________________________________ From: "jcarman6@q.com" <jcarman6@q.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Barringer Was in Arizona this past weekend and took the opportunity to go to Barringer Meteor Crater located closer to Winslow, but way outside Flagstaff on highway 40. Some of the board members have been there. The crater is located on a high desert plain, elevation 6,000 feet (abt 2,000 meters). The plain is not totally flat, but slighly rolling mounds. Exit 233 is Meteor Crater Road and the crater itself is about 6 miles off of highway 40. Really in the middle of nowhere. All I could think about on those almost 6 miles was Wow, what low horizons - in all directions, the view at night must be spectactular. Then I went around a small mound and saw the outside of the crater rising 100+ feet from the plain floor. Just as if I was driving up to a crater on the moon. My jaw dropped. I took a few pictures and the link follows - Enjoy http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/media/set/?set=a.4605827825763.1... According to a map on the meteor crater website, there is a very old impact crater in south eastern Utah - looks like within the Capitol Reef boundaries. Anyone seen it? Also on the same map it shows a number of impact sites in the eastern U.S., but only a few in the western U.S. Anybody got a reason why?
My dad took me to Barringer crater as a teenager, on the way back from our pilgrimage to Kitt Peak. I had seen the slides of it from the air that Edmund used to sell, but didn't really get a feel for just how big it is, until I was standing on the rim. Then I realized that one of those dots in the photo was a building!
Back in the days before people became suit-happy folks had a lot better access to all parts of the crater. Once you paid the entrance fee you were welcome to go anywhere you wanted, including down to the bottom. My mother took me and the rest of the Wigging tribe there in 1967. And then first wife Collie and I visited there in 1973. Alas, no pictures from the first trip but I did get several during the second. The color on the original slides has not fared well over the years but through the magic provided by a flat top scanner and its software I got the images to where they are looking ok. http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/%7Epaw/MCAPR73.HTML BTW, I heard recently that it may again be possible to climb down into the crater albeit with a tour guide. Anyone know if that is true? I checked their web site but saw nothing about access to the crater floor. patrick On 15 Mar 2013, at 09:43, Chuck Hards wrote:
My dad took me to Barringer crater as a teenager, on the way back from our pilgrimage to Kitt Peak. I had seen the slides of it from the air that Edmund used to sell, but didn't really get a feel for just how big it is, until I was standing on the rim. Then I realized that one of those dots in the photo was a building!
Here is my data on hiking trails in that area of Canyonlands. ** *Mesa Top to White Rim (Steep & Strenuous Trails)* ** Syncline Loop 8.3mi 5-7 hrs 1300 ft canyon hiking, some shade Upheaval Cater spur 3mi 2 hrs 350 ft some scrambing over rocks Upheaval Canyon spur 7mi 3-4 hrs 400 ft sandy hike long wash bottom Back in '98 on my way to Texas Star Party, my mom and I stopped by the Upheaval Dome Overlook Trail. The first overlook was a mile roundtrip but we didn't have time cause we drove to Carlsbad NM that day. One of these days I'm going back there for some more hiking/exploring in that area. The second overlooks is a 1.8 mile hike with a view of the crater and the upheaval canyon view. My data is for round-trip hikes. I copied this info from the NPS. Hope this helps. Debbie On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
Back in the days before people became suit-happy folks had a lot better access to all parts of the crater. Once you paid the entrance fee you were welcome to go anywhere you wanted, including down to the bottom.
My mother took me and the rest of the Wigging tribe there in 1967. And then first wife Collie and I visited there in 1973.
Alas, no pictures from the first trip but I did get several during the second. The color on the original slides has not fared well over the years but through the magic provided by a flat top scanner and its software I got the images to where they are looking ok.
http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/%7Epaw/MCAPR73.HTML
BTW, I heard recently that it may again be possible to climb down into the crater albeit with a tour guide. Anyone know if that is true? I checked their web site but saw nothing about access to the crater floor.
patrick
On 15 Mar 2013, at 09:43, Chuck Hards wrote:
My dad took me to Barringer crater as a teenager, on the way back from our pilgrimage to Kitt Peak. I had seen the slides of it from the air that Edmund used to sell, but didn't really get a feel for just how big it is, until I was standing on the rim. Then I realized that one of those dots in the photo was a building!
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Great photos, Patrick. ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Barringer Back in the days before people became suit-happy folks had a lot better access to all parts of the crater. Once you paid the entrance fee you were welcome to go anywhere you wanted, including down to the bottom. My mother took me and the rest of the Wigging tribe there in 1967. And then first wife Collie and I visited there in 1973. Alas, no pictures from the first trip but I did get several during the second. The color on the original slides has not fared well over the years but through the magic provided by a flat top scanner and its software I got the images to where they are looking ok. http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/%7Epaw/MCAPR73.HTML BTW, I heard recently that it may again be possible to climb down into the crater albeit with a tour guide. Anyone know if that is true? I checked their web site but saw nothing about access to the crater floor. patrick On 15 Mar 2013, at 09:43, Chuck Hards wrote:
My dad took me to Barringer crater as a teenager, on the way back from our pilgrimage to Kitt Peak. I had seen the slides of it from the air that Edmund used to sell, but didn't really get a feel for just how big it is, until I was standing on the rim. Then I realized that one of those dots in the photo was a building!
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Found my photo. You can see it here: http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/brentjwatson/UpheavalDome.jpg Maybe I'll submit it to epod. Brent
That picture is screaming EPOD!!!! patrick Sent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:03, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
Found my photo. You can see it here:
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/brentjwatson/UpheavalDome.jpg
Maybe I'll submit it to epod.
Brent
Brent, I’ve seen a lot of photos of Upheaval Dome. A lot of them. That’s just about the best I’ve seen. Joan’s correct. They should replace the Park Service photo with yours. As I said, photos from the air give a much better perspective of the impact structure than those shot at ground level. I have some ground-level photos, somewhere. I’ll try to find them and you can see the huge difference between your aerial perspective and those taken on the ground. By the way, (if I find them) judge my photos as a exercise in perspective not photographic skill. Dave On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
Found my photo. You can see it here:
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/brentjwatson/UpheavalDome.jpg
Maybe I'll submit it to epod.
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Yes, and it's definitely EPOD quality! -- Joe ________________________________ From: Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Barringer Brent, I’ve seen a lot of photos of Upheaval Dome. A lot of them. That’s just about the best I’ve seen. Joan’s correct. They should replace the Park Service photo with yours. As I said, photos from the air give a much better perspective of the impact structure than those shot at ground level. I have some ground-level photos, somewhere. I’ll try to find them and you can see the huge difference between your aerial perspective and those taken on the ground. By the way, (if I find them) judge my photos as a exercise in perspective not photographic skill. Dave On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
Found my photo. You can see it here:
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/brentjwatson/UpheavalDome.jpg
Maybe I'll submit it to epod.
Brent _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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