In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
Today I saw an excellent movie about the Apollo Moon Program, at the Salt Lake City Broadway Theater, called, "In The Shadow of the Moon". One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem? Even when the astronauts were going into the Moon's shadow, I didn't see any stars. Although, that could be because the camera was aimed directly at the lunar landscape. Sincerely, J. David Baxter
On 28 Sep 2007, at 18:50, baxman2@comcast.net wrote:
One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem?
Exposures of objects on the lunar surface were too short to show stars. patrick
A little more detail to Patrick's response: The lack of stars in photos taken from the lunar surface have always been one of the reasons that the flat-earth people claim that the Apollo landings never took place. Apparently, they are ignorant of the physics of light and photography (and, just ignorant, in general). The camera's exposure would have been set for essentially the same as daylight conditions on earth, due to the extreme brightness of the lunar surface, in contrast to the very dark sky. Had the astronauts used a tripod and longer exposures, I'm sure that they would have been able to image both the surface and some stars, but of course, the surface would have been underexposed. Thought: Does anyone know if the Apollo astronauts ever did use a tripod and still camera for long exposures? Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:07 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: In The Shadow of the Moon Movie On 28 Sep 2007, at 18:50, baxman2@comcast.net wrote:
One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem?
Exposures of objects on the lunar surface were too short to show stars. patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com ______________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net ______________________________________________________________________ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM
Actually, Kim, the surface would have been overexposed. Best wishes, Joe On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Kim wrote:
A little more detail to Patrick's response:
The lack of stars in photos taken from the lunar surface have always been one of the reasons that the flat-earth people claim that the Apollo landings never took place. Apparently, they are ignorant of the physics of light and photography (and, just ignorant, in general). The camera's exposure would have been set for essentially the same as daylight conditions on earth, due to the extreme brightness of the lunar surface, in contrast to the very dark sky. Had the astronauts used a tripod and longer exposures, I'm sure that they would have been able to image both the surface and some stars, but of course, the surface would have been underexposed.
Thought: Does anyone know if the Apollo astronauts ever did use a tripod and still camera for long exposures?
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:07 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
On 28 Sep 2007, at 18:50, baxman2@comcast.net wrote:
One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem?
Exposures of objects on the lunar surface were too short to show stars.
patrick
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Apparently my response to Patrick's post about my inadvertent error didn't get through. Yes, I meant overexposed but a synapse must have misfired somewhere. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:14 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Actually, Kim, the surface would have been overexposed. Best wishes, Joe On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Kim wrote:
A little more detail to Patrick's response:
The lack of stars in photos taken from the lunar surface have always been one of the reasons that the flat-earth people claim that the Apollo landings never took place. Apparently, they are ignorant of the physics of light and photography (and, just ignorant, in general). The camera's exposure would have been set for essentially the same as daylight conditions on earth, due to the extreme brightness of the lunar surface, in contrast to the very dark sky. Had the astronauts used a tripod and longer exposures, I'm sure that they would have been able to image both the surface and some stars, but of course, the surface would have been underexposed.
Thought: Does anyone know if the Apollo astronauts ever did use a tripod and still camera for long exposures?
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:07 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
On 28 Sep 2007, at 18:50, baxman2@comcast.net wrote:
One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem?
Exposures of objects on the lunar surface were too short to show stars.
patrick
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I don't know about Apollo astronauts using a tripod-mounted camera for visible light photography of the stars, but the Apollo 16 astronauts did use a special camera to photograph the Earth in UV light. Because Earth shines very weakly in UV, those images did record background stars. One of the bits of ammunition that I use when dealing with "the moon landings were faked" people (I get a lot of them) is to point out to them that at the time the Apollo 16 images were taken no one had created a sky survey in UV light. The UV images of Earth were released to the public and no one gave a second thought to the positions and magnitudes (in UV) of background stars. Recently, however, some clever high school and college students have compared the Apollo 16 images against modern UV star charts to see if what the Apollo 16 UV camera saw matches what is now known about the UV sky. Surprise, surprise, surprise! The UV stars imaged in the same field of view with Earth seen by Apollo 16 astronauts match exactly the UV star field that is predicted to be visible if a photograph of Earth were made from the surface of the Moon on that date. So, how could NASA have faked the UV star field if in 1972 no UV sky map existed? Seth Jarvis -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of baxman2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:51 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Today I saw an excellent movie about the Apollo Moon Program, at the Salt Lake City Broadway Theater, called, "In The Shadow of the Moon". One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem? Even when the astronauts were going into the Moon's shadow, I didn't see any stars. Although, that could be because the camera was aimed directly at the lunar landscape. Sincerely, J. David Baxter _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Thanks, Seth. Interesting reading. Are the UV pics available online at some NASA archive? Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Seth Jarvis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie I don't know about Apollo astronauts using a tripod-mounted camera for visible light photography of the stars, but the Apollo 16 astronauts did use a special camera to photograph the Earth in UV light. Because Earth shines very weakly in UV, those images did record background stars. One of the bits of ammunition that I use when dealing with "the moon landings were faked" people (I get a lot of them) is to point out to them that at the time the Apollo 16 images were taken no one had created a sky survey in UV light. The UV images of Earth were released to the public and no one gave a second thought to the positions and magnitudes (in UV) of background stars. Recently, however, some clever high school and college students have compared the Apollo 16 images against modern UV star charts to see if what the Apollo 16 UV camera saw matches what is now known about the UV sky. Surprise, surprise, surprise! The UV stars imaged in the same field of view with Earth seen by Apollo 16 astronauts match exactly the UV star field that is predicted to be visible if a photograph of Earth were made from the surface of the Moon on that date. So, how could NASA have faked the UV star field if in 1972 no UV sky map existed? Seth Jarvis -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of baxman2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:51 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Today I saw an excellent movie about the Apollo Moon Program, at the Salt Lake City Broadway Theater, called, "In The Shadow of the Moon". One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem? Even when the astronauts were going into the Moon's shadow, I didn't see any stars. Although, that could be because the camera was aimed directly at the lunar landscape. Sincerely, J. David Baxter _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com ______________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net ______________________________________________________________________ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM
Yes, Here's one of the links: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/html/as16.htm You'll have to scroll or search down a bit on the page. Search for "UV" or "AS16-123-19650" and you'll find it. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:40 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Thanks, Seth. Interesting reading. Are the UV pics available online at some NASA archive? Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Seth Jarvis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie I don't know about Apollo astronauts using a tripod-mounted camera for visible light photography of the stars, but the Apollo 16 astronauts did use a special camera to photograph the Earth in UV light. Because Earth shines very weakly in UV, those images did record background stars. One of the bits of ammunition that I use when dealing with "the moon landings were faked" people (I get a lot of them) is to point out to them that at the time the Apollo 16 images were taken no one had created a sky survey in UV light. The UV images of Earth were released to the public and no one gave a second thought to the positions and magnitudes (in UV) of background stars. Recently, however, some clever high school and college students have compared the Apollo 16 images against modern UV star charts to see if what the Apollo 16 UV camera saw matches what is now known about the UV sky. Surprise, surprise, surprise! The UV stars imaged in the same field of view with Earth seen by Apollo 16 astronauts match exactly the UV star field that is predicted to be visible if a photograph of Earth were made from the surface of the Moon on that date. So, how could NASA have faked the UV star field if in 1972 no UV sky map existed? Seth Jarvis -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of baxman2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:51 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Today I saw an excellent movie about the Apollo Moon Program, at the Salt Lake City Broadway Theater, called, "In The Shadow of the Moon". One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem? Even when the astronauts were going into the Moon's shadow, I didn't see any stars. Although, that could be because the camera was aimed directly at the lunar landscape. Sincerely, J. David Baxter _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com ______________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net ______________________________________________________________________ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Actually, here's an even better image. I know there are many more if you google around. http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS16/10075873.jpg Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Seth Jarvis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:44 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Yes, Here's one of the links: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/html/as16.htm You'll have to scroll or search down a bit on the page. Search for "UV" or "AS16-123-19650" and you'll find it. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:40 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Thanks, Seth. Interesting reading. Are the UV pics available online at some NASA archive? Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Seth Jarvis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie I don't know about Apollo astronauts using a tripod-mounted camera for visible light photography of the stars, but the Apollo 16 astronauts did use a special camera to photograph the Earth in UV light. Because Earth shines very weakly in UV, those images did record background stars. One of the bits of ammunition that I use when dealing with "the moon landings were faked" people (I get a lot of them) is to point out to them that at the time the Apollo 16 images were taken no one had created a sky survey in UV light. The UV images of Earth were released to the public and no one gave a second thought to the positions and magnitudes (in UV) of background stars. Recently, however, some clever high school and college students have compared the Apollo 16 images against modern UV star charts to see if what the Apollo 16 UV camera saw matches what is now known about the UV sky. Surprise, surprise, surprise! The UV stars imaged in the same field of view with Earth seen by Apollo 16 astronauts match exactly the UV star field that is predicted to be visible if a photograph of Earth were made from the surface of the Moon on that date. So, how could NASA have faked the UV star field if in 1972 no UV sky map existed? Seth Jarvis -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of baxman2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:51 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie Today I saw an excellent movie about the Apollo Moon Program, at the Salt Lake City Broadway Theater, called, "In The Shadow of the Moon". One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem? Even when the astronauts were going into the Moon's shadow, I didn't see any stars. Although, that could be because the camera was aimed directly at the lunar landscape. Sincerely, J. 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Here's a view of the solar corona and stars taken from the moon: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS15/10075726.jpg Re. the stupid conspiracy theory, one of the astronauts first makes the point that it's impossible to keep a secret if one person tells another something in Washington, so how could many thousands keep their mouths shut? But an even better comment, tongue in cheek, is that we pulled off the hoax once, why go to the trouble of doing it nine times? -- Joe On Oct 1, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Seth Jarvis wrote:
Actually, here's an even better image. I know there are many more if you google around.
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/ AS16/10075873.jpg
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Seth Jarvis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:44 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
Yes,
Here's one of the links:
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/html/as16.htm
You'll have to scroll or search down a bit on the page. Search for "UV" or "AS16-123-19650" and you'll find it.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:40 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
Thanks, Seth. Interesting reading. Are the UV pics available online at some NASA archive?
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Seth Jarvis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
I don't know about Apollo astronauts using a tripod-mounted camera for visible light photography of the stars, but the Apollo 16 astronauts did use a special camera to photograph the Earth in UV light. Because Earth shines very weakly in UV, those images did record background stars.
One of the bits of ammunition that I use when dealing with "the moon landings were faked" people (I get a lot of them) is to point out to them that at the time the Apollo 16 images were taken no one had created a sky survey in UV light. The UV images of Earth were released to the public and no one gave a second thought to the positions and magnitudes (in UV) of background stars.
Recently, however, some clever high school and college students have compared the Apollo 16 images against modern UV star charts to see if what the Apollo 16 UV camera saw matches what is now known about the UV sky.
Surprise, surprise, surprise! The UV stars imaged in the same field of view with Earth seen by Apollo 16 astronauts match exactly the UV star field that is predicted to be visible if a photograph of Earth were made from the surface of the Moon on that date.
So, how could NASA have faked the UV star field if in 1972 no UV sky map existed?
Seth Jarvis
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Today I saw an excellent movie about the Apollo Moon Program, at the Salt Lake City Broadway Theater, called, "In The Shadow of the Moon". One thing that I have noticed from astronaut space pictures; they never show any stars in the sky. I assume that camera contrast resolution might have something to this. The astronauts claim that they could see stars in the sky. Any comments on this problem? Even when the astronauts were going into the Moon's shadow, I didn't see any stars. Although, that could be because the camera was aimed directly at the lunar landscape.
Sincerely,
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On Oct 1, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Joe Bauman wrote:
Re. the stupid conspiracy theory, one of the astronauts first makes the point that it's impossible to keep a secret if one person tells another something in Washington, so how could many thousands keep their mouths shut? But an even better comment, tongue in cheek, is that we pulled off the hoax once, why go to the trouble of doing it nine times? -- Joe
Joe, here's another one I like: "I've said it before & I'll say it again.. People expect to see stars in space. If they hadn't been to the moon to know better, they would've included stars in the fake photos! just check out any Sci-Fi film.. it not hard to include stars in a fake picture!!" Dave
Or maybe those dumb conspirators just forgot about the stars ..... Joe Dave Bennett <dlbennett@mac.com> wrote: Joe, here's another one I like: "I've said it before & I'll say it again.. People expect to see stars in space. If they hadn't been to the moon to know better, they would've included stars in the fake photos! just check out any Sci-Fi film.. it not hard to include stars in a fake picture!!" Dave _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
The photo directly underneath (AS16-123-19657) has the best exposure. I'm still trying to place the star field. http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS16/10075873.jpg Dave On Oct 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Seth Jarvis wrote:
Yes,
Here's one of the links:
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/html/as16.htm
You'll have to scroll or search down a bit on the page. Search for "UV" or "AS16-123-19650" and you'll find it.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:40 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie
Thanks, Seth. Interesting reading. Are the UV pics available online at some NASA archive?
Kim
Well, I've learned something new today. I have never heard of the "geocorona" before. Read the text at: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS16/10075874.htm. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bennett Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:52 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] In The Shadow of the Moon Movie The photo directly underneath (AS16-123-19657) has the best exposure. I'm still trying to place the star field. http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS16/10075873.jpg Dave Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM
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