Sportsmansguide has another binocular that some of you might be interested in. They are a Tasco 12 x 50mm Waterproof Binocs. They are $29.97. I have several pairs of 10 x 50s that I use and pass out to my kids at star parties. They seem to be a nice binocular for looking around the Milkyway. The F.O.V. is listed as 288' @ 1000 yrds. Dave