I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions?
My favorite sky map app is SkEye. You may need reading glasses for the smartphone. I certainly do. On Aug 18, 2013 2:16 PM, <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip
phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions?
Sky Safari. I got the basic version at $2.95. I got it to check the moons of Saturn on any given night but it has sooooo much more including double stars. It has a lot of descriptive detail also on many objects. Well worth it. On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
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Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used: Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
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I use Pocket Universe, Planisphere, MoonPhase and SkyWeek
Erik Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
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Joan: I quickly got over the charm of free apps. They tend to be full of advertisements and some just quit working for no apparent reason. You should learn how to use the uninstall function in case you fall out of love with an app. You can go through many that way and just keep the ones that work for you. I sometimes download three at a time and uninstall the two that are duds. Also, again free apps often are not worth what you pay for them. Paid for apps like SkySafari are supported and updated and that's what it takes for an app of that size to be useful. DT ________________________________ From: Erik Hansen <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
I use Pocket Universe, Planisphere, MoonPhase and SkyWeek
Erik Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
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For my iphone and ipad: SkySafari+ Sunlight Exoplanet (an absolute must-have) Daylight 3D Sun MeteorGuide SkyEventFinder NASA Satellites ISS Spotter Sputnik! Starmap Pro Luan (for moon phase info - another must-have) MoonPhases Moon+ Eclipses Kepler Moon Globe Mars Globe Luminos If you forced me to choose just a few to have loaded and then no more, I'd keep SkySafari+, Luan, Exoplanet and Daylight. Those get used constantly, while the others are in the "fun to have and occasionally use" category. Enjoy! Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:41 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used: Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Aug 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
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Seth, What is it you get out of Exoplanet and Daylight? Is it Exoplanet or Exoplanet Explorer Lite? Is Daylight just a globe map showing where daylight is? When I search for Luan I get Luan Santana, not an astronomical app. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
For my iphone and ipad:
SkySafari+ Sunlight Exoplanet (an absolute must-have) Daylight 3D Sun MeteorGuide SkyEventFinder NASA Satellites ISS Spotter Sputnik! Starmap Pro Luan (for moon phase info - another must-have) MoonPhases Moon+ Eclipses Kepler Moon Globe Mars Globe Luminos
If you forced me to choose just a few to have loaded and then no more, I'd keep SkySafari+, Luan, Exoplanet and Daylight. Those get used constantly, while the others are in the "fun to have and occasionally use" category.
Enjoy!
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:41 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Aug 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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That took me a second, but got it... Luan is a common door skin material. Or used to be, at least. Now it's probably some pressed, formed or otherwise manufactured stuff. Mat -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+mat.hutchings=siemens.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+mat.hutchings=siemens.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 12:56 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps Or mahogany... I wonder if Luan is a typo for Luna? On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org
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When I search for Luan I get Luan Santana, not an astronomical app.
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Exoplanet is awesome for the 3-D interactive zoomable Milky Way. Just plain "Exoplanet" by an exoplanet scientist named Hanno Rein: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/exoplanet/id327702034?mt=8 The "Daylight" app is a simple, super-fast way to find sunrise/sunset/twilight times: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daylight/id324528814?mt=8 "Luan" is my preferred Moon phase app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/luan-lunar-calendar-moon-phases/id305665185?... Hope that helps, Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Siegfried Jachmann Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:21 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps Seth, What is it you get out of Exoplanet and Daylight? Is it Exoplanet or Exoplanet Explorer Lite? Is Daylight just a globe map showing where daylight is? When I search for Luan I get Luan Santana, not an astronomical app. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
For my iphone and ipad:
SkySafari+ Sunlight Exoplanet (an absolute must-have) Daylight 3D Sun MeteorGuide SkyEventFinder NASA Satellites ISS Spotter Sputnik! Starmap Pro Luan (for moon phase info - another must-have) MoonPhases Moon+ Eclipses Kepler Moon Globe Mars Globe Luminos
If you forced me to choose just a few to have loaded and then no more, I'd keep SkySafari+, Luan, Exoplanet and Daylight. Those get used constantly, while the others are in the "fun to have and occasionally use" category.
Enjoy!
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:41 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Aug 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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Seth, is it Luan or Luna? On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Exoplanet is awesome for the 3-D interactive zoomable Milky Way. Just plain "Exoplanet" by an exoplanet scientist named Hanno Rein:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/exoplanet/id327702034?mt=8
The "Daylight" app is a simple, super-fast way to find sunrise/sunset/twilight times:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daylight/id324528814?mt=8
"Luan" is my preferred Moon phase app:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/luan-lunar-calendar-moon-phases/id305665185?...
Hope that helps,
Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Siegfried Jachmann Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:21 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Seth, What is it you get out of Exoplanet and Daylight? Is it Exoplanet or Exoplanet Explorer Lite? Is Daylight just a globe map showing where daylight is?
When I search for Luan I get Luan Santana, not an astronomical app.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
For my iphone and ipad:
SkySafari+ Sunlight Exoplanet (an absolute must-have) Daylight 3D Sun MeteorGuide SkyEventFinder NASA Satellites ISS Spotter Sputnik! Starmap Pro Luan (for moon phase info - another must-have) MoonPhases Moon+ Eclipses Kepler Moon Globe Mars Globe Luminos
If you forced me to choose just a few to have loaded and then no more, I'd keep SkySafari+, Luan, Exoplanet and Daylight. Those get used constantly, while the others are in the "fun to have and occasionally use" category.
Enjoy!
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:41 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Aug 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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The name of the app is "Lúan." Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Siegfried Jachmann Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:03 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps Seth, is it Luan or Luna? On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Exoplanet is awesome for the 3-D interactive zoomable Milky Way. Just plain "Exoplanet" by an exoplanet scientist named Hanno Rein:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/exoplanet/id327702034?mt=8
The "Daylight" app is a simple, super-fast way to find sunrise/sunset/twilight times:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daylight/id324528814?mt=8
"Luan" is my preferred Moon phase app:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/luan-lunar-calendar-moon-phases/id3056 65185?mt=8
Hope that helps,
Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Siegfried Jachmann Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:21 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Seth, What is it you get out of Exoplanet and Daylight? Is it Exoplanet or Exoplanet Explorer Lite? Is Daylight just a globe map showing where daylight is?
When I search for Luan I get Luan Santana, not an astronomical app.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
For my iphone and ipad:
SkySafari+ Sunlight Exoplanet (an absolute must-have) Daylight 3D Sun MeteorGuide SkyEventFinder NASA Satellites ISS Spotter Sputnik! Starmap Pro Luan (for moon phase info - another must-have) MoonPhases Moon+ Eclipses Kepler Moon Globe Mars Globe Luminos
If you forced me to choose just a few to have loaded and then no more, I'd keep SkySafari+, Luan, Exoplanet and Daylight. Those get used constantly, while the others are in the "fun to have and occasionally use" category.
Enjoy!
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:41 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Aug 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronom y
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Is it a Droid or I phone app? On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
The name of the app is "Lúan."
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Siegfried Jachmann Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:03 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Seth, is it Luan or Luna?
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Exoplanet is awesome for the 3-D interactive zoomable Milky Way. Just plain "Exoplanet" by an exoplanet scientist named Hanno Rein:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/exoplanet/id327702034?mt=8
The "Daylight" app is a simple, super-fast way to find sunrise/sunset/twilight times:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daylight/id324528814?mt=8
"Luan" is my preferred Moon phase app:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/luan-lunar-calendar-moon-phases/id3056 65185?mt=8
Hope that helps,
Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Siegfried Jachmann Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:21 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Seth, What is it you get out of Exoplanet and Daylight? Is it Exoplanet or Exoplanet Explorer Lite? Is Daylight just a globe map showing where daylight is?
When I search for Luan I get Luan Santana, not an astronomical app.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
For my iphone and ipad:
SkySafari+ Sunlight Exoplanet (an absolute must-have) Daylight 3D Sun MeteorGuide SkyEventFinder NASA Satellites ISS Spotter Sputnik! Starmap Pro Luan (for moon phase info - another must-have) MoonPhases Moon+ Eclipses Kepler Moon Globe Mars Globe Luminos
If you forced me to choose just a few to have loaded and then no more, I'd keep SkySafari+, Luan, Exoplanet and Daylight. Those get used constantly, while the others are in the "fun to have and occasionally use" category.
Enjoy!
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Holmes Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 2:41 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Astro Phone apps
Don't know if you have an iPhone or android, but here's a few I've used:
Sky Safari Satellite safari Skywalk Star map pro Astromist Sky eye Google sky
Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors.
On Aug 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronom y
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On 18 Aug 2013, at 14:13, jcarman6@q.com wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a smart phone (the last cell phone was a flip phone - much like Star Trek's communicators). The members of this board have discussed astronomy apps for cell phones previously, but I am requesting a few, at least to start, "free" apps for astronomy. Any suggestions?
Hi Joan, Sorry for the late reply but I'm just getting home. You didn't say what kind of phone but if it's an iPhone I've got several suggestions. Most are free, some are a few bucks. Basically when I first got the phone (and later iPad) I went a bit crazy in the iTunes Store and downloaded most every free astronomy app available. It quickly became apparent that several really were not worth the price (even if they were free) but with iTunes removing an unwanted app is just a matter of clicking on it and hitting refresh and it's gone. At any rate, here are the ones I use on the phone: Planetarium apps: Sky Safari Lite Distant Suns Pocket Universe Star Walk Moon apps: Phases Moon HD Moon Maps Moon Mars apps: Mars Globe Mars Atlas And the one I use more than any other at star parties is Gas Giants. Excellent on the iPad but still ok on the phone for showing the positions of various Jupiter and Saturn satellites and how they move. Also shows the position of the Red Spot and the orientation of Saturn's rings for the current time or the time you specify. A few other miscellaneous include: 3D Sun Aurora Forecast NASA SWx (space weather) Exoplanet Sunrise Clock Sun n Moon AstroClock Sidereal Time (handy for setting old fashioned setting circles). As you might expect the larger display of the iPad is a very big plus, though in many cases the apps do pretty well on the phone. BTW, early generation iPads are available cheap (under $200) and you don't need any sort of cellular data plan to make any of the apps I've shown above work. patrick
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