Re: [Utah-astronomy] Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 118, Issue 67
Hey Patrick, Awesome picture! But (and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) that mountain looks a lot more like Mt. Nebo than Timp. Here's a link to a picture of Nebo on wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mount_Nebo_from_Y_Mtn.jpg That said, Mt. Nebo would be an even better spot for the scope since it is the highest peak in the Wasatch range. ~Kelly
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:54:12 -0700 From: Wiggins Patrick <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) Message-ID: <6145097A-8B6D-4E62-B759-6D5B33695F69@wirelessbeehive.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Let's blame it on the comet. It just does not want to be seen.
Frustrating that the clouds are not that thick and don't go up that high.
I got this shot over Utah Lake this afternoon showing we just need to put a remotely operated observatory on top of Mt. Timp: http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/timpclouds.jpg
Well, remote operated for most of us. Joe would probably prefer to take his images while sitting on the peak. :)
patrick
On 28 Dec 2012, at 12:58, Tyler Allred wrote:
Thanks for fessing up. I am happy to share the blame with others. Does anyone else want to step up? Tyler
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Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Tyler, I have to share some of the blame. I had Starzonia install their Hyperstar system in my Celestron 8" OTA, taking it from f8 to f2.1, and it has not been out of the case since I got back from Tucson. 73
On 12/28/2012 8:31 AM, Tyler Allred wrote:
I apologize to everyone. This bad weather is all my fault. My carbon fiber sandwich tube finally arrived from Germany and the fully-assembled scope is sitting uselessly atop the Paramount in my observatory. I expect the bad weather to continue indefinitely. Tyler
On 27 Dec 2012, at 10:39, Dave Gary wrote:
By the way, who purchased or received astronomic equipment for Christmas? The weather down here in St. George has been quite nasty for observation. I know one of you guys screwed it up. Tyler, did your new equipment come in?
I didn't look closely before, but I think you're right Kelly. I had assumed that Patrick's picture was of the east slope of Timp and that he was flying over Sanpete Valley, but the shadows are wrong. Here's a nice pic of Timp's west slope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mount_Timpanogos_at_sunset.jpg and here's another of the east slope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mt_Timpanogos_s2000.jpg. Patrick, there is indeed a metal structure (aluminum, as I recall) at the summit. It is an open frame with a pyramidal roof, solidly guyed to the rock. I have no idea who put it there or why. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Ricks Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:14 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 118, Issue 67 Hey Patrick, Awesome picture! But (and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) that mountain looks a lot more like Mt. Nebo than Timp. Here's a link to a picture of Nebo on wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mount_Nebo_from_Y_Mtn.jpg That said, Mt. Nebo would be an even better spot for the scope since it is the highest peak in the Wasatch range. ~Kelly
Hey Patrick, definitely Timp -- you can see the sleeping Indian princess. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Kim <kimharch@cut.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Timpanogos I didn't look closely before, but I think you're right Kelly. I had assumed that Patrick's picture was of the east slope of Timp and that he was flying over Sanpete Valley, but the shadows are wrong. Here's a nice pic of Timp's west slope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mount_Timpanogos_at_sunset.jpg and here's another of the east slope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mt_Timpanogos_s2000.jpg. Patrick, there is indeed a metal structure (aluminum, as I recall) at the summit. It is an open frame with a pyramidal roof, solidly guyed to the rock. I have no idea who put it there or why. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Ricks Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:14 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 118, Issue 67 Hey Patrick, Awesome picture! But (and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) that mountain looks a lot more like Mt. Nebo than Timp. Here's a link to a picture of Nebo on wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mount_Nebo_from_Y_Mtn.jpg That said, Mt. Nebo would be an even better spot for the scope since it is the highest peak in the Wasatch range. ~Kelly _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
My understanding is that it is a shelter. I have been up inside it the times I have hiked to the top of Timp. Lots of names scratched and written inside with the most infamous one being Ted Bundy. On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 10:13, Kim wrote:
Patrick, there is indeed a metal structure (aluminum, as I recall) at the summit. It is an open frame with a pyramidal roof, solidly guyed to the rock. I have no idea who put it there or why.
Or HOW. :)
patrick
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-- Such a long long time to be gone, such a short time to be there.
Yeah, I figured it was a lightning shelter (it just becomes a Faraday cage) but I didn't want to say and be wrong. As for getting it there, it appears to be fairly light and could have been dropped there by helicopter. Still, my feeling is that if you're going to climb mountains, you should take your chances, so I don't really like to reach that summit and be confronted with the thing. Patrick, why don't you fly past and photograph it for us? See if there are any winter mountaineering enthusiasts up there. To get back OT... Once I tried to reach the summit to catch the sunrise, but I was too late. At 11,749 feet (uh, sorry Patrick, 3,582 meters) observing would be great there, as with any high mountain, but the summit ridge is basically a knife edge and there's no good place to set up the Paramount, C-11, computer, and all other necessary equipment to enjoy the night sky. ;-) Speaking of the knife-edge ridge, my sister-in-law once hiked the mountain and followed a family who took a two-year-old and a large family dog with them to the top. Near the summit, the dog enthusiastically bounded past the little girl, knocking her off the trail. She fell about 2,000 feet to her death. It can be a dangerous mountain, as are all of the Wasatch peaks. Being so accessible lulls many into thinking they are like the proverbial walk in the park. I have been on other Wasatch peaks at night and the light pollution is incredible. If you like city lights, that's the place to - enjoy them. Happy Western-culture New Year, everyone. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+kimharch=cut.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:25 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Timpanogos My understanding is that it is a shelter. I have been up inside it the times I have hiked to the top of Timp. Lots of names scratched and written inside with the most infamous one being Ted Bundy. On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 10:13, Kim wrote:
Patrick, there is indeed a metal structure (aluminum, as I recall) at the summit. It is an open frame with a pyramidal roof, solidly guyed to the rock. I have no idea who put it there or why.
Or HOW. :)
patrick
I've been on most of the peaks along the Wasatch front, Timp included. Kim, I wonder how effective a Faraday cage it would be since it has such open sides, IIRC. Maybe it was used as a fire-watch tower long ago? Or a surveyor's shelter? I'm thinking the Army Corps of Engineers had something to do with it. That last pull to the peak is pretty daunting and I'd hate to pack a heavy mount up there. Too, it's so rugged at the top that I doubt you could find a place to set it up, not to mention moving around it in the dark without falling to your death. And yes, the light pollution is terrible, though the view is amazing (from any Wasatch front peak). When I was there last, and it's been quite a few years, I was disappointed to find the peak littered with broken mirrors. I was told that they were brought there by the Boy Scouts, who apparently have some program whereby they signal each other from various mountain peaks on a pre-determined day and time. That was a shock as I'd hoped the Boy Scouts would know better than to litter such a location. Hopefully it's been cleaned-up since. I also remember an out-house in the cirque just below the peak, that had no roof. You got to wave to people hiking higher on the trail who could see down into the "facilities" while you sat there contemplating your place in nature. ;-) If one is up to the hike, the high alpine valleys just east of the Wasatch are some of the most beautiful, still fairly untraveled places close to home, and a great place to camp. But not a great place to do deep-sky astronomy. You'd get some terrific planetary views thanks to the altitude, however, all other seeing conditions permitting. On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
Yeah, I figured it was a lightning shelter (it just becomes a Faraday cage) but I didn't want to say and be wrong.
We are not alone...... 73 On 12/29/2012 4:09 PM, Wiggins Patrick wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 10:13, Kim wrote:
Patrick, there is indeed a metal structure (aluminum, as I recall) at the summit. It is an open frame with a pyramidal roof, solidly guyed to the rock. I have no idea who put it there or why. Or HOW. :)
patrick
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