http://news.aol.com/story/_a/company-now-sells-real-flying-saucers/200708031... This looks remarkably like the saucer that a fellow in North Salt Lake was developing a decade or two ago, I wonder if the projects are related? I'm rather partial to rotary engines as some of you know, so this caught my eye- until I read the 40-gallon-per-hour fuel consumption rate! And rotaries (even the small ones) must use high-octane fuel to prevent pre-detonation, which can blow out the spark plugs and apex seals (that's instant total power loss in a rotary engine). That's $120+ per hour to operate, at best! I think the time of the flying saucer is still a ways off, though the military, search-and-rescue, and science may find it usefull. The small airship is still much more ecconomical however, and has a smaller environmental footprint.
10 feet -- just high enough to smash your bubble canopy (and thence your face) into a freeway overpass... nice. --- Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
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This looks remarkably like the saucer that a fellow in North Salt Lake was developing a decade or two ago, I wonder if the projects are related? I'm rather partial to rotary engines as some of you know, so this caught my eye- until I read the 40-gallon-per-hour fuel consumption rate! And rotaries (even the small ones) must use high-octane fuel to prevent pre-detonation, which can blow out the spark plugs and apex seals (that's instant total power loss in a rotary engine). That's $120+ per hour to operate, at best!
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I would question if that is not reverse technology from Roswell? Aliens have been flying their UFO's longer. What more proof do we need of Alien visitation. Do you follow my logic? Do you think I'm serious?
Erik 10 feet -- just high enough to smash your bubble
canopy (and thence your face) into a freeway overpass... nice.
--- Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/company-now-sells-real-flying-saucers/200708031...
This looks remarkably like the saucer that a fellow in North Salt Lake was developing a decade or two ago, I wonder if the projects are related? I'm rather partial to rotary engines as some of you know, so this caught my eye- until I read the 40-gallon-per-hour fuel consumption rate! And rotaries (even the small ones) must use high-octane fuel to prevent pre-detonation, which can blow out the spark plugs and apex seals (that's instant total power loss in a rotary engine). That's $120+ per hour to operate, at best!
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Erik, if UFO's come from Mexico, then something like this might have crashed at Roswell with aliens on-board. On 8/5/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I would question if that is not reverse technology from Roswell? Aliens have been flying their UFO's longer. What more proof do we need of Alien visitation. Do you follow my logic? Do you think I'm serious?
The green ones?
Erik, if UFO's come from Mexico, then something like this might have
crashed at Roswell with aliens on-board.
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I would question if that is not reverse technology from Roswell? Aliens have been flying their UFO's longer. What more proof do we need of Alien visitation. Do you follow my logic? Do you think I'm serious?
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You seem keeping coming back to the real (illegal) aliens, and I the imagined ones.
"Don't drink the water" isn't a meaningless expression!
On 8/5/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
The green ones?
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Wouldn't the imagined ones be illegal as well? I mean, do they have a passport and visa, or don't they? Or if they've lived among us for at least 12 years, do they get amnesty? Congress seems to think that we should deport them back to Tau Ceti, make them file a legitimate application to immigrate, pay a $5,000 fine, and wait several years for their application to be processed. Some congressmen want them to learn English as well, but if they don't have vocal cords, would it be good enough to be telepathic in English? I also hear a lot about the aliens doing jobs that Americans don't want. Am I to assume that proctology is experiencing a shortage of personnel right now? Most aliens have their own anal probes, from what I've read- this could be a win-win situation. I've also heard the claim that aliens send large amounts of cash back home to their families, but I've never seen one of the Roswell types in line in the post-office, wanting buy an International Money Order, so I have to be skeptical of this claim. It's a tough issue to take a stand on, Erik, without some hard data. On 8/5/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
You seem keeping coming back to the real (illegal) aliens, and I the imagined ones.
If they had the technology to get here, from where ever, and they are willing to share, I would absolutley support amnesty! My hope is they would give us amnesty. Erik Wouldn't the imagined ones be illegal as well? I mean, do they have a
passport and visa, or don't they? Or if they've lived among us for at least 12 years, do they get amnesty? Congress seems to think that we should deport them back to Tau Ceti, make them file a legitimate application to immigrate, pay a $5,000 fine, and wait several years for their application to be processed. Some congressmen want them to learn English as well, but if they don't have vocal cords, would it be good enough to be telepathic in English? I also hear a lot about the aliens doing jobs that Americans don't want. Am I to assume that proctology is experiencing a shortage of personnel right now? Most aliens have their own anal probes, from what I've read- this could be a win-win situation. I've also heard the claim that aliens send large amounts of cash back home to their families, but I've never seen one of the Roswell types in line in the post-office, wanting buy an International Money Order, so I have to be skeptical of this claim.
It's a tough issue to take a stand on, Erik, without some hard data.
On 8/5/07, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
You seem keeping coming back to the real (illegal) aliens, and I the imagined ones.
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It does state that a computer governs the altitude; it is capable of higher altitudes but the FAA says you need a pilot's license if you want to go higher than ten feet. One could progam the altitude limiter to not exceed any overpass heights on your commute. Anyway, I doubt that these would be street legal because of a lack of positive braking ability, among other things. On the bright side, it makes bad road surfaces a moot point. I've always maintained that flying vehicles will never replace automobiles because a much, much higher percentage of accidents would be fatal. Mid-air collisions tend to be that way, "fender-benders" just don't happen often at altitude. Insurance rates would make operating it prohibatively expensive. Getting your telescope to really primo sites would be a breeze, if they could increase the payload capacity. I wonder if the stated capacity includes the operator? If so, that limits it to 3" Questars and ETX's, unfortunately, unless one is very small-framed. On 8/5/07, Richard Tenney <retenney@yahoo.com> wrote:
10 feet -- just high enough to smash your bubble canopy (and thence your face) into a freeway overpass... nice.
On 05 Aug 2007, at 13:06, Chuck Hards wrote:
I've always maintained that flying vehicles will never replace automobiles because a much, much higher percentage of accidents would be fatal. Mid-air collisions tend to be that way, "fender-benders" just don't happen often at altitude.
As I pilot who knows of a number close calls that have happened in the mostly wide open skies over SLC, anytime I think of the traffic on the I-15 corridor each evening raised high into the sky (and most "pilots" yacking on their cell phones), well I just can't see it happening with current technology. But, speaking of flying, here's a video sent to me by Bill Cowles showing a pilot's eye view of a shuttle landing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9elcSXVNlMw Resolution isn't all that great but the view is still good. And I really liked the chatter between the commander and pilot (they were having way too much fun). pw
Many years ago, there was a mid-air over Kearns between either a 2-or-4 seater (for some reason I'm remembering that it was a Mooney) and a commuter turbo-prop. It was pretty grisly on the ground; school children were kept indoors until most of the remains were taken off the street. I remember that neighborhood dogs were observed getting-away with some remains. I think you were living in SLC at the time, Patrick- or was it before you moved here? On 8/5/07, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
On 05 Aug 2007, at 13:06, Chuck Hards wrote:
As I pilot who knows of a number close calls that have happened in the mostly wide open skies over SLC, anytime I think of the traffic on the I-15 corridor each evening raised high into the sky (and most "pilots" yacking on their cell phones), well I just can't see it happening with current technology.
On 05 Aug 2007, at 18:06, Chuck Hards wrote:
Many years ago, there was a mid-air over Kearns between either a 2- or-4 seater (for some reason I'm remembering that it was a Mooney) and a commuter turbo-prop. It was pretty grisly on the ground; school children were kept indoors until most of the remains were taken off the street. I remember that neighborhood dogs were observed getting-away with some remains. I think you were living in SLC at the time, Patrick- or was it before you moved here?
Yes, unfortunately I was here and remember the situation all too well. The instructor in the small plane was an fellow I hired from time to time and I used to rent one of his aircraft. Fortunately it would be a bit more difficult for that situation to repeat itself today as one can not fly in the SL valley these days at the altitude the airliners fly without a device which automatically tells air traffic control your altitude. That's assuming, of course, everyone follows the rules. Plus all airliners and many largish small aircraft these days are equipped with something called TCAS which alerts the flight crew if another aircraft is in the area. I've been TCASed out at Wendover when landing or taking off there when the 737 the casinos hire to fly in customers is landing. Standard practice is to broadcast one's position when flying into and out of uncontrolled airports and the casino 737's typical reply is something to the effect, "54U we have you on TCAS". But even so, I still keep my eyes outside the cockpit. Better to be seen than heard ("crunch"). pw
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