Deloy Pierce sent me e-mail awhile ago concerning John Elwell, from WISE, who spoke at SLAS. Deloy had asked him if he would be interested in speaking at OAS and he indicated he would. So...Roger, if you have some contact information you can get to me I would like to set him up for a meeting. As long as I am here I might as well put out a feeler for anyone on the list that might have something of interest they would like to share with our group up north in Ogden. We re-imburse for gas and maybe a snack. Ron Vanderhule Prez, OAS
Ron, Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu He gave us a great presentation on project WISE and I think that OAS would find him to be a very good speaker. I will mention to our members the need for you to have speakers and refer them to you. One you need to get is our past president, Dave Bernson: dustynebula@gmail.com He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Thanks Rodger Fry -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RON VANDERHULE Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:14 PM To: utah-astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry Deloy Pierce sent me e-mail awhile ago concerning John Elwell, from WISE, who spoke at SLAS. Deloy had asked him if he would be interested in speaking at OAS and he indicated he would. So...Roger, if you have some contact information you can get to me I would like to set him up for a meeting. As long as I am here I might as well put out a feeler for anyone on the list that might have something of interest they would like to share with our group up north in Ogden. We re-imburse for gas and maybe a snack. Ron Vanderhule Prez, OAS _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb!
Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L & O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Chuck, which age? WWI, the Stearman, or the Acro-Sport era? lh On 9/6/2011 10:49 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
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You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. One of the best of the piston-engine liners, no doubt. Quite a charismatic airplane.
Although to me, it has to be a biplane to be really pretty.
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Check out the Beechcraft model 17 (Staggerwing). This is truly the most magnificent bi-plane, and it first flew in 1932. Last time I checked, (took time off from learning to navigate the night sky without goto) that was after 1918. :) Mat -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 1:42 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry On 9/6/11, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Chuck, which age? WWI, the Stearman, or the Acro-Sport era? lh
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I have a tee shirt with the Beech staggerwing on it. Alas, it's far too modern to get my juices really flowing. On 9/6/11, Hutchings, Mat (H USA) <mat.hutchings@siemens.com> wrote:
Check out the Beechcraft model 17 (Staggerwing). This is truly the most magnificent bi-plane, and it first flew in 1932. Last time I checked, (took time off from learning to navigate the night sky without goto) that was after 1918. :)
Larry, They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy. Rodger -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L & O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe ________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry Larry, They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy. Rodger -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L & O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L & O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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You must be right, Steve. I remember stories about the Comet when I was very young, and I guess I mixed that up with the Constellation (both astronomical!) Then because I thought there was a problem with the Constellation, and I knew very well it had that strange three-upright tail, I decided the problem must have been with the tail. Thanks for helping me untangle some of the ganglions. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Steve Fisher <iotacass1@hotmail.com> To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
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Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L & O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Ganglion?Looked it up and now I have learned a new word for the day. Not that it is a new word but I don't think I have ever herard it.Thanks! Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:11:49 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You must be right, Steve. I remember stories about the Comet when I was very young, and I guess I mixed that up with the Constellation (both astronomical!) Then because I thought there was a problem with the Constellation, and I knew very well it had that strange three-upright tail, I decided the problem must have been with the tail. Thanks for helping me untangle some of the ganglions. -- Joe
________________________________ From: Steve Fisher <iotacass1@hotmail.com> To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L & O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy'<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Spooky or Puff the Magic Dragon was a modified C-47 and called a AC-47. Here is a clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOrpyO0z48 On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700
From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.**xmission.com<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
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Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@**mailman.xmission.com<utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> [mailto:utah-astronomy-**bounces@mailman.xmission.com<utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com>] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON
that is superb!
Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Isn't there an updated plane outfitted with the mini-guns, laser guided now I think.
Spooky or Puff the Magic Dragon was a modified C-47 and called a AC-47.
Here is a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOrpyO0z48
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700
From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.**xmission.com<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
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Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
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You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
> He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at > ALCON > that is superb!
Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Are you refering to the AC-130? It is a direct decendant of the AC-47 I believe. This was five years ago and has probably been replaced by now. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4639921789181083769#
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:11:32 -0600 From: erikhansen@thebluezone.net To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Isn't there an updated plane outfitted with the mini-guns, laser guided now I think.
Spooky or Puff the Magic Dragon was a modified C-47 and called a AC-47.
Here is a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOrpyO0z48
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700
From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.**xmission.com<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
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Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
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You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ron, > > Here is John Elwell's email address: > john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu > >> He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at >> ALCON >> > that is superb! > Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Come on, Steve. I think Jimmie Steward & the Comet deserves at least an acknowledgment, or did you miss it? 73, lh On 9/6/2011 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy'<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
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You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu
He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Must have missed it!!!!
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:39:48 -0600 From: larry@kijoda.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Come on, Steve. I think Jimmie Steward & the Comet deserves at least an acknowledgment, or did you miss it? 73, lh
On 9/6/2011 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy'<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu > He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave > at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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Oh, yes! It all comes back to me. Jimmy Stewart and No Highway in the Sky. I think my older brother told me about that. Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:39:48 -0600 From: larry@kijoda.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Come on, Steve. I think Jimmie Steward & the Comet deserves at least an acknowledgment, or did you miss it? 73, lh
On 9/6/2011 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit & tie; ladies in dresses & furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy'<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
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You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron,
Here is John Elwell's email address: john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu > He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave > at ALCON that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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That's better. I tend to be obscure at times, waiting for people to pick up on what I say. No highway in the Sky was a pretty good movie for its time, tho do not believe it got very high ratings. Based somewhat on a true story, see Wiki for more info. Sorry, forgot you are such a youngster...haha 73, lh On 9/6/2011 5:50 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
Oh, yes! It all comes back to me. Jimmy Stewart and No Highway in the Sky. I think my older brother told me about that. Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:39:48 -0600 From: larry@kijoda.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Come on, Steve. I think Jimmie Steward& the Comet deserves at least an acknowledgment, or did you miss it? 73, lh
On 9/6/2011 3:24 PM, Larry Holmes wrote:
Steve, at least Jimmie Stewart did not like to fly on the Comet. BTW, was not "Puff, the Magic Dragon" a modified C-47. My first commercial flight was in a DC-3 from Bend, OR to Sacramento, CA in '51 or '52. Ate off china, with real silverware. Men were in suit& tie; ladies in dresses& furs. 73 lh
On 9/6/2011 12:48 PM, Steve Fisher wrote:
I don't remember problems with the Constellation tail. (could have been some) Are you thinking of the DeHavilland Comet? With the Square windows that cracked after multiple pressurizations? Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:38:57 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
I've always loved the DC3, because it's so sturdy and has been a real workhorse for many decades. The military version could fly will all kinds of aitiaircraft damage. But I agree that biplanes are the coolest, and the Constellation is great-looking. (Somehow, I have an impression that the Constellation had a fatal flaw with that tail -- or am I thinking about another plane? Can anybody figure out what my poor old brain is trying to drag out of the murk of the past?) -- Joe
________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy'<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
Larry,
They only served L&O in first-class! And Yes, the Constellation was very sexy.
Rodger
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Larry Holmes Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:14 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] OAS speaker info attn: Roger Fry
You know, I still feel the Constellation was the prettiest airplane that ever was. And it did not matter how you hopped to observe it. What do you think, Joe? Chuck? Wonder if they served L& O aboard?? (I know they served VO, but you did not want an onion in that.) heehee lh
On 9/6/2011 9:01 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/3/11, Rodger C. Fry<rcfry@comcast.net> wrote: > Ron, > > Here is John Elwell's email address: > john.elwell@sdl.usu.edu >> He has a presentation on the summer constellations that he gave >> at ALCON > that is superb! Constellations? I'm sure Joe wasn't interested in that... ;-)
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RON VANDERHULE -
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