Hi all, Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far: 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. 5) Stay home and watch it on TV. Ok, I made that last one up. :) Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting. Clear skies, patrick
I vote for #1, Patrick. (Didn't SLAS already decide to do this one?) Best wishes, Joe ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:23 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please Hi all, Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far: 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. 5) Stay home and watch it on TV. Ok, I made that last one up. :) Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting. Clear skies, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
On 07 Sep 2011, at 01:27, Joe Bauman wrote:
I vote for #1, Patrick. (Didn't SLAS already decide to do this one?) Best wishes, Joe
Yes, the board has talked about a bus or buses and Rodger Fry has contacted the local bus companies (I believe the quotes are coming in at about $40 per seat round trip). But I've also heard talk of driving to Bryce for the Festival and then to Kanarraville for the eclipse. And Erik indicated in his post yesterday that he's driving to the Cedar area on his own. If it turns out that most folks are going to make their own way down and back it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to continue to look into the bus charter. Hence my unofficial questionnaire so I'll have something to report to the SLAS board. patrick
On 07 Sep 2011, at 02:08, Josh M wrote:
Count me in.
Glad to hear Josh it but via which option? Via which option? 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. patrick
3 for me ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please On 07 Sep 2011, at 02:08, Josh M wrote:
Count me in.
Glad to hear Josh it but via which option? Via which option? 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
I plan on avoiding crowds so where I am going is between me and the people I am traveling with and I doubt the charter will be wheelchair accessible.
Bryce will probably be an alright place to view it, I imagine it will be darker than normal at sunset. Erik. On 07 Sep 2011, at 01:27, Joe Bauman wrote:
I vote for #1, Patrick. (Didn't SLAS already decide to do this one?) Best wishes, Joe
Yes, the board has talked about a bus or buses and Rodger Fry has contacted the local bus companies (I believe the quotes are coming in at about $40 per seat round trip).
But I've also heard talk of driving to Bryce for the Festival and then to Kanarraville for the eclipse. And Erik indicated in his post yesterday that he's driving to the Cedar area on his own.
If it turns out that most folks are going to make their own way down and back it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to continue to look into the bus charter.
Hence my unofficial questionnaire so I'll have something to report to the SLAS board.
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Don't forget parking the charter bus may pose some challenges, they may have rules concerning that. IE: no parking on the side of the road.
On 07 Sep 2011, at 01:27, Joe Bauman wrote:
I vote for #1, Patrick. (Didn't SLAS already decide to do this one?) Best wishes, Joe
Yes, the board has talked about a bus or buses and Rodger Fry has contacted the local bus companies (I believe the quotes are coming in at about $40 per seat round trip).
But I've also heard talk of driving to Bryce for the Festival and then to Kanarraville for the eclipse. And Erik indicated in his post yesterday that he's driving to the Cedar area on his own.
If it turns out that most folks are going to make their own way down and back it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to continue to look into the bus charter.
Hence my unofficial questionnaire so I'll have something to report to the SLAS board.
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Patrick, I will be option 3, attend BCSF and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse however if things were different I would have preferred option 1, on busses. Rodger Fry -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:24 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please Hi all, Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far: 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. 5) Stay home and watch it on TV. Ok, I made that last one up. :) Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting. Clear skies, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here? Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona. I am just curious to see if there is still something neat to see. I went to the total eclipse in Libya and of course they leaders of the expedition told us that anything except a total eclipse wasn't worth seeing. I have seen partial eclipses several times. I will plan to get some eclipse glasses to send to my family and friends so that they can see it as well. Thanks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rodger C. Fry Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:32 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please Patrick, I will be option 3, attend BCSF and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse however if things were different I would have preferred option 1, on busses. Rodger Fry -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:24 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please Hi all, Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far: 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. 5) Stay home and watch it on TV. Ok, I made that last one up. :) Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting. Clear skies, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
I'll probably be doing option 3. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Dunn, David <David.Dunn@supervalu.com>wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here? Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona. I am just curious to see if there is still something neat to see. I went to the total eclipse in Libya and of course they leaders of the expedition told us that anything except a total eclipse wasn't worth seeing. I have seen partial eclipses several times. I will plan to get some eclipse glasses to send to my family and friends so that they can see it as well.
Thanks, Dave
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rodger C. Fry Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:32 AM To: 'Utah Astronomy' Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please
Patrick,
I will be option 3, attend BCSF and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse however if things were different I would have preferred option 1, on busses.
Rodger Fry
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:24 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please
Hi all,
Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far:
1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner).
2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse.
3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse.
4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse.
5) Stay home and watch it on TV.
Ok, I made that last one up. :)
Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting.
Clear skies,
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On 9/7/11, Dunn, David <David.Dunn@supervalu.com> wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here? Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona.
Dave, don't you think a nearly central annularity is worth seeing? It's too far away for me to make plans, but I'd certainly like to see it, if the stars all align in my favor. I'm planning on bringing my own Corona, on ice.
The day of the eclipse. Sunrise 5:05 AM, Sunset 7:43 PM, 1st contact 6:19 PM, Max eclipse 7:29 PM, 4th contact 8:33 PM. . I plan on bringing my old friend Sam Adams, on ice of course.
On 9/7/11, Dunn, David <David.Dunn@supervalu.com> wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here? Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona.
Dave, don't you think a nearly central annularity is worth seeing?
It's too far away for me to make plans, but I'd certainly like to see it, if the stars all align in my favor.
I'm planning on bringing my own Corona, on ice.
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At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts? -A
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this. sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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I'd be up for option 1. Just how wide is the 'centerline' (meaning the area where the annulus will be viewed as a distinct ring)? It must be at least 10s of miles wide, no? Will there really be thousands of people going to the area of total annularity - especially when the eclipse will be visible from the Salt Lake Valley? In other solar related news, there is an ISS solar transit this Sunday morning at 10:07 in Northern Utah. I'm hoping for clear skies and a well-timed shutter to finally knock this item off my astronomy bucket list. Map at http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http:%2F%2Fwww.calsky.com%2Fobserver%2Ftmp%2Ft... Jared On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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A wise man who posts here said it best for me. Being a few miles off centerline is like "kissing your sister"!The bus will have restroom facilities, another plus in favor of riding the bus. Steve
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If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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The real saying is "an annular eclipse is like kissing your sister", it is much more important with total eclipse's. Ever hear "not good enough for her own not good enough for you." "The bus will have restrooms", really, how sure are you? A few miles will hardly be noticeable, the horizon will be the most important consideration. I doubt the bus driver or UHP will care at all about getting anyone to the exact centerline, especially if local townships are planning activities. My experience has been sometimes, for annular eclipse's, being off centerline is were you can actually see it. It will be best to be flexible, I will have a plan A, B, and C., I doubt the charter will be very flexible. The So Cal eclipse was a good example, it was clear in San Diego and cloudy in LA.
I certainly will lose no sleep over it. If you want to be in the crowd, by all means ride the bus.
A wise man who posts here said it best for me. Being a few miles off centerline is like "kissing your sister"!The bus will have restroom facilities, another plus in favor of riding the bus. Steve
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If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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I was thinking about driving out near/past Newcastle while I'm in the neighborhood a few days from now, to maybe scout a good location for sunset. It's about an hour past Cedar City on UT-56, but I'm betting it won't have huge crowds. Is anyone already familiar with the area? On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:23 PM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
The real saying is "an annular eclipse is like kissing your sister", it is much more important with total eclipse's. Ever hear "not good enough for her own not good enough for you." "The bus will have restrooms", really, how sure are you? A few miles will hardly be noticeable, the horizon will be the most important consideration. I doubt the bus driver or UHP will care at all about getting anyone to the exact centerline, especially if local townships are planning activities. My experience has been sometimes, for annular eclipse's, being off centerline is were you can actually see it. It will be best to be flexible, I will have a plan A, B, and C., I doubt the charter will be very flexible. The So Cal eclipse was a good example, it was clear in San Diego and cloudy in LA.
I certainly will lose no sleep over it. If you want to be in the crowd, by all means ride the bus.
A wise man who posts here said it best for me. Being a few miles off centerline is like "kissing your sister"!The bus will have restroom facilities, another plus in favor of riding the bus. Steve
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If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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Well, if you look at the map it screams the easiest access to centerline, so yes I would think many people are considering that (most people on this list for sure). I also would not be surprised to find someone camped, on the day of the eclipse, at any "good location" you might find. As I recall, from Cedar City you go through some type of pine forest for about half an hour then it opens up to cattle range.
I was thinking about driving out near/past Newcastle while I'm in the
neighborhood a few days from now, to maybe scout a good location for sunset. It's about an hour past Cedar City on UT-56, but I'm betting it won't have huge crowds. Is anyone already familiar with the area?
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:23 PM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
The real saying is "an annular eclipse is like kissing your sister", it is much more important with total eclipse's. Ever hear "not good enough for her own not good enough for you." "The bus will have restrooms", really, how sure are you? A few miles will hardly be noticeable, the horizon will be the most important consideration. I doubt the bus driver or UHP will care at all about getting anyone to the exact centerline, especially if local townships are planning activities. My experience has been sometimes, for annular eclipse's, being off centerline is were you can actually see it. It will be best to be flexible, I will have a plan A, B, and C., I doubt the charter will be very flexible. The So Cal eclipse was a good example, it was clear in San Diego and cloudy in LA.
I certainly will lose no sleep over it. If you want to be in the crowd, by all means ride the bus.
A wise man who posts here said it best for me. Being a few miles off centerline is like "kissing your sister"!The bus will have restroom facilities, another plus in favor of riding the bus. Steve
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 10:50:54 -0600 From: erikhansen@thebluezone.net To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please
If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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thanks for the insight! On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Well, if you look at the map it screams the easiest access to centerline, so yes I would think many people are considering that (most people on this list for sure). I also would not be surprised to find someone camped, on the day of the eclipse, at any "good location" you might find. As I recall, from Cedar City you go through some type of pine forest for about half an hour then it opens up to cattle range.
I was thinking about driving out near/past Newcastle while I'm in the
neighborhood a few days from now, to maybe scout a good location for sunset. It's about an hour past Cedar City on UT-56, but I'm betting it won't have huge crowds. Is anyone already familiar with the area?
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:23 PM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
The real saying is "an annular eclipse is like kissing your sister", it is much more important with total eclipse's. Ever hear "not good enough for her own not good enough for you." "The bus will have restrooms", really, how sure are you? A few miles will hardly be noticeable, the horizon will be the most important consideration. I doubt the bus driver or UHP will care at all about getting anyone to the exact centerline, especially if local townships are planning activities. My experience has been sometimes, for annular eclipse's, being off centerline is were you can actually see it. It will be best to be flexible, I will have a plan A, B, and C., I doubt the charter will be very flexible. The So Cal eclipse was a good example, it was clear in San Diego and cloudy in LA.
I certainly will lose no sleep over it. If you want to be in the crowd, by all means ride the bus.
A wise man who posts here said it best for me. Being a few miles off centerline is like "kissing your sister"!The bus will have restroom facilities, another plus in favor of riding the bus. Steve
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If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
> At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at > Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like > a > lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I > know? > A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was > imaging, > but viewing? Thoughts? > > -A > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php >
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Patrick is looking into Newcastle. Get in touch with him. It would be awesome if you were in the area and actually scouted it out. I'm sure Patrick will be eager to hear your report. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chrismo" <djchrismo@gmail.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:35:38 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please I was thinking about driving out near/past Newcastle while I'm in the neighborhood a few days from now, to maybe scout a good location for sunset. It's about an hour past Cedar City on UT-56, but I'm betting it won't have huge crowds. Is anyone already familiar with the area? On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:23 PM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
The real saying is "an annular eclipse is like kissing your sister", it is much more important with total eclipse's. Ever hear "not good enough for her own not good enough for you." "The bus will have restrooms", really, how sure are you? A few miles will hardly be noticeable, the horizon will be the most important consideration. I doubt the bus driver or UHP will care at all about getting anyone to the exact centerline, especially if local townships are planning activities. My experience has been sometimes, for annular eclipse's, being off centerline is were you can actually see it. It will be best to be flexible, I will have a plan A, B, and C., I doubt the charter will be very flexible. The So Cal eclipse was a good example, it was clear in San Diego and cloudy in LA.
I certainly will lose no sleep over it. If you want to be in the crowd, by all means ride the bus.
A wise man who posts here said it best for me. Being a few miles off centerline is like "kissing your sister"!The bus will have restroom facilities, another plus in favor of riding the bus. Steve
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If being a few miles of centerline means avoiding crowds that is where I will be!
Option 6. Do Bryce Friday and/or Saturday then drive to Kanarraville for
the eclipse. Drive home after the eclipse. Got to be on the centerline for this.
sj On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
At this point, I think I will/should support the Astronomy Festival at Bryce, so I vote for option 2. Does option 3 make much sense? Seems like a lot of driving to get a tad better view of the eclipse. But what do I know? A tad better view may make all the difference! It would if one was imaging, but viewing? Thoughts?
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I've very interested to hear what you find out (as, I'm sure, are many others on this list). The way the road follows the centerline is uncanny (an expression which could also describe the lack to restrooms <g> ). When you're there stand on highway 56 as it leaves Newcastle to the west and see how high the horizon is in the direction the road tracks (just a bit north of west). In order to see all of annularity from that area the horizon can not be more than 11 degrees high. Preferably less. Thanks very much for your help with this. patrick On 08 Sep 2011, at 13:35, Chrismo wrote:
I was thinking about driving out near/past Newcastle while I'm in the neighborhood a few days from now, to maybe scout a good location for sunset. It's about an hour past Cedar City on UT-56, but I'm betting it won't have huge crowds. Is anyone already familiar with the area?
Will do. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
I've very interested to hear what you find out (as, I'm sure, are many others on this list).
The way the road follows the centerline is uncanny (an expression which could also describe the lack to restrooms <g> ).
When you're there stand on highway 56 as it leaves Newcastle to the west and see how high the horizon is in the direction the road tracks (just a bit north of west). In order to see all of annularity from that area the horizon can not be more than 11 degrees high. Preferably less.
Thanks very much for your help with this.
patrick
On 08 Sep 2011, at 13:35, Chrismo wrote:
I was thinking about driving out near/past Newcastle while I'm in the neighborhood a few days from now, to maybe scout a good location for sunset. It's about an hour past Cedar City on UT-56, but I'm betting it won't have huge crowds. Is anyone already familiar with the area?
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The web site uses UT time, which is 7 hours ahead of Mountain standard time. The USNO gives sunset as 7:43 standard time. It may be that there is some confusion between standard and daylight saving time. The 4th contact will be a few minutes after sunset, not and hour and a few minutes. Quoting erikhansen@thebluezone.net:
The day of the eclipse. Sunrise 5:05 AM, Sunset 7:43 PM, 1st contact 6:19 PM, Max eclipse 7:29 PM, 4th contact 8:33 PM. . I plan on bringing my old friend Sam Adams, on ice of course.
On 9/7/11, Dunn, David <David.Dunn@supervalu.com> wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here? Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona.
Dave, don't you think a nearly central annularity is worth seeing?
It's too far away for me to make plans, but I'd certainly like to see it, if the stars all align in my favor.
I'm planning on bringing my own Corona, on ice.
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I did not get those times off a website. I forget when daylight silly time begins, perhaps they are off by an hour, the app listed local time. With all the different rules for daylight time they probably are MST times without correcting for DST.If sunset is at 8:43 MDT then the max eclipse is likely also an hour later IE 8:29 MDT. Personally I do not care about last contact as long as I can see all of the max eclipse. Either way getting to a site well before first contact is probably a good idea.
for Ann, Bryce will offer some good sunset vistas for the eclipse, I imagine Bryce will be good site to view it. Some people probably don't want to drive back to SL during darkness. The Festival ends Sunday the 20th so I would think option 3 people may want a room in Cedar City for the night. The web site uses UT time, which is 7 hours ahead of Mountain standard
time. The USNO gives sunset as 7:43 standard time. It may be that there is some confusion between standard and daylight saving time. The 4th contact will be a few minutes after sunset, not and hour and a few minutes.
Quoting erikhansen@thebluezone.net:
The day of the eclipse. Sunrise 5:05 AM, Sunset 7:43 PM, 1st contact 6:19 PM, Max eclipse 7:29 PM, 4th contact 8:33 PM. . I plan on bringing my old friend Sam Adams, on ice of course.
On 9/7/11, Dunn, David <David.Dunn@supervalu.com> wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here? Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona.
Dave, don't you think a nearly central annularity is worth seeing?
It's too far away for me to make plans, but I'd certainly like to see it, if the stars all align in my favor.
I'm planning on bringing my own Corona, on ice.
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On 9/7/11, erikhansen@thebluezone.net <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
I did not get those times off a website. I forget when daylight silly time begins, perhaps they are off by an hour, the app listed local time.
Remember that local time (local mean time) isn't the same as standard time. Local time differs continuously depending on the observer's longitude. Standard time is the same for everyone in the same time zone. Might be prudent to double-check exactly what time they are referring to. It's probably standard time, but best to double-check.
Hi Dave, On 07 Sep 2011, at 08:14, Dunn, David wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here?
This site at NASA Goddard can be used to predict circumstances for the eclipse: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2012May20Agoogle.html It shows that the Ogden area will only have about 88% coverage.
Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona.
If we were talking about a true total eclipse of the Sun I'd agree with you. Years ago when I was with the planetarium a travel agency was trying to sell us on an eclipse expedition in Kenya that would put us just outside the path of totality. When I pointed that out he said something to the effect of "But it's 99%!". We went with another company. :) Since the best we can do on next year's eclipse is annularity I think most are going to want to get the best view possible. And that, for most, is on or very near the centerline where we'll see a beautiful, semitrical, circle of Sun sitting just above the horizon. It's just too bad that the mountains to the NW of Glendale on highway 89 will block annularity. Otherwise that would be a great location. I will admit to a few qualms about Kanarraville. While I did hear just today that they are taking it seriously and are preparing, I wonder how long in advance one is going to have to get there in order to get right on the centerline. Considering it's the only place in the region with easy freeway access it could turn out to be a real zoo. Woodstock comes to mind (Dave Bernson, are you listening? <g>). patrick
Should we start looking for an alternate site? On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
Hi Dave,
On 07 Sep 2011, at 08:14, Dunn, David wrote:
Does anyone know what % of the Sun will be covered from up here?
This site at NASA Goddard can be used to predict circumstances for the eclipse:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2012May20Agoogle.html
It shows that the Ogden area will only have about 88% coverage.
Also, what is the draw for an annular eclipse since you can't see the Corona.
If we were talking about a true total eclipse of the Sun I'd agree with you. Years ago when I was with the planetarium a travel agency was trying to sell us on an eclipse expedition in Kenya that would put us just outside the path of totality. When I pointed that out he said something to the effect of "But it's 99%!".
We went with another company. :)
Since the best we can do on next year's eclipse is annularity I think most are going to want to get the best view possible. And that, for most, is on or very near the centerline where we'll see a beautiful, semitrical, circle of Sun sitting just above the horizon.
It's just too bad that the mountains to the NW of Glendale on highway 89 will block annularity. Otherwise that would be a great location.
I will admit to a few qualms about Kanarraville. While I did hear just today that they are taking it seriously and are preparing, I wonder how long in advance one is going to have to get there in order to get right on the centerline.
Considering it's the only place in the region with easy freeway access it could turn out to be a real zoo.
Woodstock comes to mind (Dave Bernson, are you listening? <g>).
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I am on the astronomy team at Glen Canyon (as I work there). We will be doing some events in Page, AZ. The line of totality passes just south of page while the sun is still almost 10 degrees above the horizon. I think it will be a good show if the clouds stay away. If anyone at SLAS is interested in helping us out, please shoot me an email. David@rankinstudio.com Cheers, David
My iPhone app says 12 degrees above horizon at max eclipse, in Cedar City.
I am on the astronomy team at Glen Canyon (as I work there). We will be
doing some events in Page, AZ. The line of totality passes just south of page while the sun is still almost 10 degrees above the horizon. I think it will be a good show if the clouds stay away. If anyone at SLAS is interested in helping us out, please shoot me an email.
David@rankinstudio.com
Cheers,
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What app is that? I just got an iPhone and don't have any astro apps yet. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:54 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
My iPhone app says 12 degrees above horizon at max eclipse, in Cedar City.
I am on the astronomy team at Glen Canyon (as I work there). We will be
doing some events in Page, AZ. The line of totality passes just south of page while the sun is still almost 10 degrees above the horizon. I think it will be a good show if the clouds stay away. If anyone at SLAS is interested in helping us out, please shoot me an email.
David@rankinstudio.com
Cheers,
David
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Option one for Craig and I, thanks! -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:24 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please Hi all, Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far: 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. 5) Stay home and watch it on TV. Ok, I made that last one up. :) Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting. Clear skies, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php
The bus for me! Down and back! Steve
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Hi all,
Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far:
1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner).
2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse.
3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse.
4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse.
5) Stay home and watch it on TV.
Ok, I made that last one up. :)
Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting.
Clear skies,
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I and family will likely do #4. Mat -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 3:24 AM To: utah astronomy utah astronomy listserve Subject: [Utah-astronomy] 2012 Annual - Your opinion, please Hi all, Yesterday's thread about next year's annular eclipse got me thinking about conversations I've had with a few folks about their plans for the eclipse. Here are the variations I've heard so far: 1) Ride down to Kanarraville and back the same day on the bus(es) SLAS plans to charter for the event (with stops for lunch and dinner). 2) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and stay there to view the eclipse. 3) Attend the Bryce Canyon Astronomy Festival and then leave there and drive to Kanarraville for the eclipse. 4) Drive their own vehicle from home to the eclipse and then either stay the night in the area or drive back home right after the eclipse. 5) Stay home and watch it on TV. Ok, I made that last one up. :) Which choices do folks here plan to pursue? No need to state a reason (though you are welcome to). Right now I'm just looking for numbers to take to next week's SLAS board meeting. Clear skies, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical Solutions and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to Central.SecurityOffice@siemens.com Thank you
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