According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun." So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN! The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on . It is equally important day because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years." As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith. Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years. And so they do and so it does. A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit. And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated. It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true. P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold. I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred. ________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?] On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com>wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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No, only the world had to be destroyed. It was in the old universe. Time to pay up! ________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?] On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com>wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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No wonder I can't find my keys. Dan On Dec 23, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
No, only the world had to be destroyed. It was in the old universe. Time to pay up!
________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com>wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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You didn't buy any insurance and you weren't killed. On Dec 23, 2012 2:49 PM, "Brent Watson" <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
No, only the world had to be destroyed. It was in the old universe. Time to pay up!
________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com
wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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I'm going to require more proof. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com>wrote:
No, only the world had to be destroyed. It was in the old universe. Time to pay up!
________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com
wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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The burden of proof is on you to show that we are not in a parallel universe. ________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun I'm going to require more proof. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com>wrote:
No, only the world had to be destroyed. It was in the old universe. Time to pay up!
________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com
wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west - once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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1. The other way around - I just have to deny the claims. 2. You didn't purchase insurance. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com>wrote:
The burden of proof is on you to show that we are not in a parallel universe.
________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
I'm going to require more proof.
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com
wrote:
No, only the world had to be destroyed. It was in the old universe. Time to pay up!
________________________________ From: Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
No No, You had to be destryed in order to collect. [?]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com
wrote:
Nonsense. At 4:11 am on December 21, 2012 we seamlessly passed from an old universe into the parallel universe we now inhabit. The old universe ceased to exist on that date. I am afraid Mr. Jachmann will be paying out on all of the bets - I mean policies he sold.
I bet the Pleiades were near transit when that occurred.
________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Happy 13th Bak'tun
Simply, many Mayan Temples are still recording the passing of time. They hardly predicted the end of civilization, they're civilization was wiped out by the Spanish before they updated a calendar.
According to the Gregorian calendar it is December 21, 2012 aka 12/21/12. According to the Mayan long count calendar (they had several) it is 13.0.0.0.0. It is the "seating of the 13th Bak'tun."  So HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!  The Mayan long count calendar has rolled over, just as the Gregorian calender does every 365/66 days. H mm you could think of the Mayan long count calendar as a Julian calendar, the dates just go on and on .Â
It is equally important day  because the Mayan civil calendar has also realigned. This calendar, similar to the long count, but of much shorter duration has also realigned. Both calendars are like wheel cogs within wheel cogs and eventually, the cogs realign. The civil calendar takes 52 years to realign and when it does, it is known as the "binding of the years."  As the binding could occur more than once in a Mayan's life time, it too is a time of renewal and celebration. The night before the binding, all the fires throughout the city are extinquished. The astrologer/astronomer sky watchers watch the sky in earnest. Their target is the pleiades (not known by that name to them, but readily identifiable in all cultures that have existed on this planet :)). The small distinct grouping of seven stars reaches zenith.  Now the sky watchers watch with baited breath. If the star grouping continues on into the night, toward the west (our term) then the years are indeed bound and their world will continue for at least another 52 years.  And so they do and so it does.  A sacrifice is made (yeah human - removal of the heart yada yada ) and the fires are relit.Â
And so it is for us, the plieades reached zenith and set in the west
once again, the years have been bound and now the 13th Bak'tun is seated.  It is a time of renewal and starting fresh. Hope all your "new year" resolutions (and dreams) come true.   Â
P.S. Sorry, Mr. Jachmann, I won't be collecting on the policy. Fortunately I didn't pay the ridiculous policy premium in the first place. ALL bets are off.
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And no sooner do you get used to the 13th, then it will be 14th, and the whole process will repeat itself... On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate it when this happens.
I'll still be dating my checks 12th Bak'tun for at least a month before I get used to the 13th.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:54 PM, <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!
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Very funny Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate it when this happens.
I'll still be dating my checks 12th Bak'tun for at least a month before I get used to the 13th.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:54 PM, <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
HAPPY 13th BAK'TUN!
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Yah, you'd think so, until you have to change every date on the check, and then write your tiny initials next to the edit. The bank hates this. Causes me nothing but trouble. Damn the Mayans. I'm not too fond of corn, beans, and squash, anyway. No matter how ingenious the irrigation system, altitude at which they were grown, or stonework. I could have done better even if hung-over. Bastards. On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Mark Shelton <astroshelton@yahoo.com>wrote:
Very funny
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