Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up. Have fun, see ya.
I'm torn with it right now. Tired of all the religious discussion so I think I may opt out for awhile also. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up.
Have fun, see ya.
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I didn't think that discussing how religious views impact the science of astronomy and vice versa was inappropriate for this list. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:38 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up. Have fun, see ya. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3315 - Release Date: 12/14/10
Yea, I agree Kim. Religion, Astrology, Astronomy are all in the same bread basket historically speaking (Imho). As long as it stays respectful and somewhat funny ;) David On 12/14/10 1:47 PM, Kim wrote:
I didn't think that discussing how religious views impact the science of astronomy and vice versa was inappropriate for this list.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:38 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up.
Have fun, see ya.
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I agree. Discussing astronomy without being able to refer to its historic roots, which ARE religious, is like trying to learn French cuisine without being able to mention butter and eggs, simply because their use might offend some sensibilities. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:53 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking Yea, I agree Kim. Religion, Astrology, Astronomy are all in the same bread basket historically speaking (Imho). As long as it stays respectful and somewhat funny ;) David On 12/14/10 1:47 PM, Kim wrote:
I didn't think that discussing how religious views impact the science of astronomy and vice versa was inappropriate for this list.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:38 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up.
Have fun, see ya.
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One last note before I take my break: On 12/14/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I agree. Discussing astronomy without being able to refer to its historic roots, which ARE religious, is like trying to learn French cuisine without being able to mention butter and eggs, simply because their use might offend some sensibilities.
Kim, respectfully, the science of modern astronomy and it's roots have nothing to do with religion, except that religious authority tried to muzzle the enlightenment, whenever it could. It still does, in many houses of worship across the globe. Religion has always been the enemy of science and astronomy, not it's foundation and roots. Any other attempt to paint it differently is just warm fuzzy stuff to enable it's practitioners to sleep at night. I don't give two hoots about paleolithic sky beliefs. They were not astronomy. I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies. Those are not astronomy. I'm not leaving temporarily because I'm offended. Not offended in the least. I'm leaving for a while because I'm bored. If any of you are not, stick around and have fun, by all means. OK, that's my bus. Gotta go. :o)
"Religion has always been the enemy of science and astronomy, not it's foundation and roots." That makes perfect sense, explains why so many of our most famous breakthroughs came from astronomers who had no religious interests at all right? "Any other attempt to paint it differently is just warm fuzzy stuff to enable it's practitioners to sleep at night." Are you always so absolutist? No gray area at all? Hmmmm "I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies." One thing consistent about our understanding of astronomy, is that our facts are constantly changing. "I'm leaving for a while because I'm bored. If any of you are not, stick around and have fun, by all means." I personally don't find anything anyone has to say on this list boring in the least bit. Enjoy your Sabbatical. ;) On 12/14/10 2:56 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
One last note before I take my break:
On 12/14/10, Kim<kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I agree. Discussing astronomy without being able to refer to its historic roots, which ARE religious, is like trying to learn French cuisine without being able to mention butter and eggs, simply because their use might offend some sensibilities.
Kim, respectfully, the science of modern astronomy and it's roots have nothing to do with religion, except that religious authority tried to muzzle the enlightenment, whenever it could. It still does, in many houses of worship across the globe. Religion has always been the enemy of science and astronomy, not it's foundation and roots.
Any other attempt to paint it differently is just warm fuzzy stuff to enable it's practitioners to sleep at night. I don't give two hoots about paleolithic sky beliefs. They were not astronomy. I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies. Those are not astronomy.
I'm not leaving temporarily because I'm offended. Not offended in the least.
I'm leaving for a while because I'm bored. If any of you are not, stick around and have fun, by all means.
OK, that's my bus. Gotta go. :o)
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Paul, in 1 Cor. 2 compared spiritual knowledge "things of God" to "wisdom" subjects studied by the Greeks at Corinth--"things of a man." They are entirely different subjects altogether. It appears to me some are trying to overlap two subjects that don't really overlap. I know that God created the universe, the earth, and life on earth. Science and Astronomy tells me how. I don't really find any "how" in the Bible, Book of Abraham, Book of Moses, D&C 77 at all. Spencer Ball -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 3:17 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking "Religion has always been the enemy of science and astronomy, not it's foundation and roots." That makes perfect sense, explains why so many of our most famous breakthroughs came from astronomers who had no religious interests at all right? "Any other attempt to paint it differently is just warm fuzzy stuff to enable it's practitioners to sleep at night." Are you always so absolutist? No gray area at all? Hmmmm "I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies." One thing consistent about our understanding of astronomy, is that our facts are constantly changing. "I'm leaving for a while because I'm bored. If any of you are not, stick around and have fun, by all means." I personally don't find anything anyone has to say on this list boring in the least bit. Enjoy your Sabbatical. ;) On 12/14/10 2:56 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
One last note before I take my break:
On 12/14/10, Kim<kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I agree. Discussing astronomy without being able to refer to its historic roots, which ARE religious, is like trying to learn French cuisine without being able to mention butter and eggs, simply because their use might offend some sensibilities.
Kim, respectfully, the science of modern astronomy and it's roots have nothing to do with religion, except that religious authority tried to muzzle the enlightenment, whenever it could. It still does, in many houses of worship across the globe. Religion has always been the enemy of science and astronomy, not it's foundation and roots.
Any other attempt to paint it differently is just warm fuzzy stuff to enable it's practitioners to sleep at night. I don't give two hoots about paleolithic sky beliefs. They were not astronomy. I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies. Those are not astronomy.
I'm not leaving temporarily because I'm offended. Not offended in the least.
I'm leaving for a while because I'm bored. If any of you are not, stick around and have fun, by all means.
OK, that's my bus. Gotta go. :o)
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Hmmm, " I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies." So much for tolerance and respect. Yep, it's time to end this thread and move on. --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote: From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 2:56 PM One last note before I take my break: On 12/14/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote:
I agree. Discussing astronomy without being able to refer to its historic roots, which ARE religious, is like trying to learn French cuisine without being able to mention butter and eggs, simply because their use might offend some sensibilities.
Kim, respectfully, the science of modern astronomy and it's roots have nothing to do with religion, except that religious authority tried to muzzle the enlightenment, whenever it could. It still does, in many houses of worship across the globe. Religion has always been the enemy of science and astronomy, not it's foundation and roots. Any other attempt to paint it differently is just warm fuzzy stuff to enable it's practitioners to sleep at night. I don't give two hoots about paleolithic sky beliefs. They were not astronomy. I don't give a rat's hat about historical religious institutions' make-believe cosmic fantasies. Those are not astronomy. I'm not leaving temporarily because I'm offended. Not offended in the least. I'm leaving for a while because I'm bored. If any of you are not, stick around and have fun, by all means. OK, that's my bus. Gotta go. :o) _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
As a veteran of many email kefluffles such as this one, I would like to offer a bit of advice to the participants. If you find 27 emails in your inbasket on a subject, don't start replying to them one by one, read them all first. Someone else may have already expressed your opinion better than you would have. You also miss the warning signs of people leaving the group, a sure sign that off topic has become an irritant. Also you might miss the voice of the moderator warning that any further postings will cause the poster to have his posting privilages revoked. Groups often split up when they can't seem to find a focus. I would have thought that Utah-Astronomy was about the science of Astronomy, not the philosopy of science. Maybe a new group could be formed under the name "Astronomy and Religion". Also: Ten years ago this list might have been 6 guys who all knew eachother by firstnames and this was the place where they got together and discusssed anything they felt like. Today this list has about 200 members most of whom came here to discusss or hear discussion of the science of Astronomy.
Science and religion are pursuing truth by different angles. Both are looking at the same sky. Both, for the most part, are doing an adequate job. Since 95% of the worlds population believes in a "supreme being" in one form or another, we can argue that there is an Almighty in charge. From that angle, He is the creator of everything, including all the things we have named "science". We are just learning what these concepts are. Science is based on proof and facts. Religion is Based on faith and truth. It's like both parties are looking at different 1"x1" squares of a 10 mile map and thinking we really know anything. It's pure arrogance and pride. All of us are merely beginning to understand anything about the cosmos. It is likely that our grandchildren, ten generations later, will still only be scratching the surface. I believe that what we know, astronomically is accurate as far we can see and prove. I also believe that God is the one who has done all this. We just do not have all the information to make a conclusive explanation on how everything works. The knowledge will come with time, study and patience. Dale W. ________________________________ From: daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, December 14, 2010 8:29:24 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking As a veteran of many email kefluffles such as this one, I would like to offer a bit of advice to the participants. If you find 27 emails in your inbasket on a subject, don't start replying to them one by one, read them all first. Someone else may have already expressed your opinion better than you would have. You also miss the warning signs of people leaving the group, a sure sign that off topic has become an irritant. Also you might miss the voice of the moderator warning that any further postings will cause the poster to have his posting privilages revoked. Groups often split up when they can't seem to find a focus. I would have thought that Utah-Astronomy was about the science of Astronomy, not the philosopy of science. Maybe a new group could be formed under the name "Astronomy and Religion". Also: Ten years ago this list might have been 6 guys who all knew eachother by firstnames and this was the place where they got together and discusssed anything they felt like. Today this list has about 200 members most of whom came here to discusss or hear discussion of the science of Astronomy. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
While the following article doesn't agree with my position about God, I still found it very interesting. I think that anyone following the "Religiously speaking" thread might also find it intriguing. http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/michael-shermer/einstein%E2%80%99s... Clear skies, Dale.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah- astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dale Wilson Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:00 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
Science and religion are pursuing truth by different angles. Both are looking at the same sky. Both, for the most part, are doing an adequate job. Since 95% of the worlds population believes in a "supreme being" in one form or another, we can argue that there is an Almighty in charge. From that angle, He is the creator of everything, including all the things we have named "science". We are just learning what these concepts are.
Science is based on proof and facts. Religion is Based on faith and truth. It's like both parties are looking at different 1"x1" squares of a 10 mile map and thinking we really know anything. It's pure arrogance and pride. All of us are merely beginning to understand anything about the cosmos. It is likely that our grandchildren, ten generations later, will still only be scratching the surface.
I believe that what we know, astronomically is accurate as far we can see and prove. I also believe that God is the one who has done all this. We just do not have all the information to make a conclusive explanation on how everything works. The knowledge will come with time, study and patience.
Dale W.
________________________________ From: daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, December 14, 2010 8:29:24 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
As a veteran of many email kefluffles such as this one, I would like to offer a bit of advice to the participants. If you find 27 emails in your inbasket on a subject, don't start replying to them one by one, read them all first. Someone else may have already expressed your opinion better than you would have. You also miss the warning signs of people leaving the group, a sure sign that off topic has become an irritant. Also you might miss the voice of the moderator warning that any further postings will cause the poster to have his posting privilages revoked.
Groups often split up when they can't seem to find a focus. I would have thought that Utah-Astronomy was about the science of Astronomy, not the philosopy of science. Maybe a new group could be formed under the name "Astronomy and Religion".
Also: Ten years ago this list might have been 6 guys who all knew eachother by firstnames and this was the place where they got together and discusssed anything they felt like. Today this list has about 200 members most of whom came here to discusss or hear discussion of the science of Astronomy.
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"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."
Albert Einstein While the following article doesn't agree with my position about God, I
still found it very interesting. I think that anyone following the "Religiously speaking" thread might also find it intriguing.
http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/michael-shermer/einstein%E2%80%99s...
Clear skies, Dale.
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah- astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dale Wilson Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:00 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
Science and religion are pursuing truth by different angles. Both are looking at the same sky. Both, for the most part, are doing an adequate job. Since 95% of the worlds population believes in a "supreme being" in one form or another, we can argue that there is an Almighty in charge. From that angle, He is the creator of everything, including all the things we have named "science". We are just learning what these concepts are.
Science is based on proof and facts. Religion is Based on faith and truth. It's like both parties are looking at different 1"x1" squares of a 10 mile map and thinking we really know anything. It's pure arrogance and pride. All of us are merely beginning to understand anything about the cosmos. It is likely that our grandchildren, ten generations later, will still only be scratching the surface.
I believe that what we know, astronomically is accurate as far we can see and prove. I also believe that God is the one who has done all this. We just do not have all the information to make a conclusive explanation on how everything works. The knowledge will come with time, study and patience.
Dale W.
________________________________ From: daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, December 14, 2010 8:29:24 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
As a veteran of many email kefluffles such as this one, I would like to offer a bit of advice to the participants. If you find 27 emails in your inbasket on a subject, don't start replying to them one by one, read them all first. Someone else may have already expressed your opinion better than you would have. You also miss the warning signs of people leaving the group, a sure sign that off topic has become an irritant. Also you might miss the voice of the moderator warning that any further postings will cause the poster to have his posting privilages revoked.
Groups often split up when they can't seem to find a focus. I would have thought that Utah-Astronomy was about the science of Astronomy, not the philosopy of science. Maybe a new group could be formed under the name "Astronomy and Religion".
Also: Ten years ago this list might have been 6 guys who all knew eachother by firstnames and this was the place where they got together and discusssed anything they felt like. Today this list has about 200 members most of whom came here to discusss or hear discussion of the science of Astronomy.
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Butter? Eggs? OMG, cholestrol ! ! ! My views of French cooking will have to undergo a paradigm shift! --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Kim <kimharch@cut.net> wrote: From: Kim <kimharch@cut.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 2:08 PM I agree. Discussing astronomy without being able to refer to its historic roots, which ARE religious, is like trying to learn French cuisine without being able to mention butter and eggs, simply because their use might offend some sensibilities. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:53 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking Yea, I agree Kim. Religion, Astrology, Astronomy are all in the same bread basket historically speaking (Imho). As long as it stays respectful and somewhat funny ;) David On 12/14/10 1:47 PM, Kim wrote:
I didn't think that discussing how religious views impact the science of astronomy and vice versa was inappropriate for this list.
Kim
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:38 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Religiously speaking
OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up.
Have fun, see ya.
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It is entertaining, actual astronomy is rather slow this time of year. I have heard very little about what the book in question says about Astronomy. I would mention anyone can simply delete any message with the subject line they wish not to participate in. The actual text is elusive on the internet, all you get are opinions about what it says and does not say. That alone is telling. I would say if biblical explanations of natural history is questionable then the human historical details are too. There is another book with a somewhat different history, the Koran I believe is what it is called.
I accept the" lost in translation explanations" but that means it is not the word of God, but rather the word of men who are fallible and have human faults. Yea, I agree Kim. Religion, Astrology, Astronomy are all in the same
bread basket historically speaking (Imho).
As long as it stays respectful and somewhat funny ;)
David
On 12/14/10 1:47 PM, Kim wrote:
I didn't think that discussing how religious views impact the science of astronomy and vice versa was inappropriate for this list.
Kim
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OK folks, I'm going to stop checking this email address for a few weeks until this philosophical thread drops off the boards again. I'll check in around New Years. Most of you have my phone number and real email address, if anything important comes up.
Have fun, see ya.
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