Realizing that the current argument going on here is getting us no where a group of UA subscribers have agreed off list to stop posting to that particular thread. I urge all UA subscribers to do the same. Also, noting that this is not a SLAS list, I encourage anyone with constructive suggestions and/or complaints to bring them up at an official SLAS board meeting. SLAS board meetings are held the 2nd Wednesday of each month at the Denny's restaurant located at 250 W 500 S in SLC. The facility has ample parking and is ADA accessible. Thank you for your consideration, patrick