Imagine Earth without people
An intriguing, good read: http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg19225731.100 pw
If I were king, I would replace the fluoride in the water with some form of birth control, world wide. The U.S. Marine Corps is doing it's part to reduce the worlds population. And a side benefit is the reduction in light pollution. Of course you have to wait for the dust to settle, but it eventually does. My kids were just here for Christmas and were telling me how wonderful Iraq is at night. They say it's hard to pick out the Milky Way for all the stars. We gave them a telescope for Christmas that will probably find it's way to Iraq if they get a chance to go a third time. The other night me and the kids drove all over this area simply looking for a shadow to stand in so I could show them how to operate the telescope without all the night time glare. Frustration set in after the third loop and a couple of well placed rounds from a muffled .22 ended the search. ;) Just kidding. The kids are looking forward to better, darker skies themselves... Quoting Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>:
An intriguing, good read:
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg19225731.100
pw
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I've had that experience at some nice dark Utah localities -- found myself straining to pick out well-known constellations just because there were so many other stars! The night sky is a wonderful resource that our ancestors had, which we are rapidly losing. If I were king, I would enforce dark-sky conservation rules. It's just ridiculous that so much light shoots up uselessly, wasting resources and destroying the view. -- Joe
My kids were just here for Christmas and were telling me how wonderful Iraq is at night. They say it's hard to pick out the Milky Way for all the stars.
I won't name names, but I've had a couple of our clubs well known "night sky masters" while at Bryce, ask me to slew my fabulously accurate "goto" scope to an object they were trying to find among the crowded night sky, and shine my laser through the eyepiece to pin point the target so they could put their scope on it. Thank Gosh for the technology of goto's and lasers... Did I say "Gosh"? ;) Quoting Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com>:
I've had that experience at some nice dark Utah localities -- found myself straining to pick out well-known constellations just because there were so many other stars!
Good thing you had electrical power, or nobody would have seen anything! Thank Gosh you were there alright. And I didn't know you invented GoTo. Do you know Al Gore by any chance? I'd never call myself a night sky master, but I know I would not ever impose on you in that fashion. "Too many stars" is an oxymoron and never a problem. ;o) Name names, by all means. --- diveboss@xmission.com wrote:
I won't name names, but I've had a couple of our clubs well known "night sky masters" while at Bryce, ask me to slew my fabulously accurate "goto" scope to an object they were trying to find among the crowded night sky, and shine my laser through the eyepiece to pin point the target so they could put their scope on it. Thank Gosh for the technology of goto's and lasers... Did I say "Gosh"? ;)
Quoting Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com>:
I've had that experience at some nice dark Utah localities -- found myself straining to pick out well-known constellations just because there were so many other stars!
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I've assited several large Schmidt owners find comet 2006m4 SWAN by telling them ther RA and DEC coordinates. A supprising number didn't know how to enter the numbers on their hand paddle. I could also name names. DT PS: that's owners of large Schmidt telescopes as opposed to being large themselves.
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I won't name names, but I've had a couple of our clubs well known "night sky masters" while at Bryce, ask me to slew my fabulously accurate "goto" scope to an object they were trying to find among the crowded night sky, and shine my laser through the eyepiece to pin point the target so they could put their scope on it. Thank Gosh for the technology of goto's and lasers... Did I say "Gosh"? ;)
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Good point Daniel. Owning an expensive, or high-tech telescope doesn't in itself make a person an amateur astronomer. You have to actually learn a few things, even with a GoTo. Gosh forbid! --- daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com> wrote:
I've assited several large Schmidt owners find comet 2006m4 SWAN by telling them ther RA and DEC coordinates. A supprising number didn't know how to enter the numbers on their hand paddle. I could also name names.
DT
PS: that's owners of large Schmidt telescopes as opposed to being large themselves.
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I don't understand that. It's written in plain english in the instruction manual. Between the chapters on grinding the coffee beans and power despensing of hand towels. ;) Quoting daniel turner <outwest112@yahoo.com>:
I've assited several large Schmidt owners find comet 2006m4 SWAN by telling them ther RA and DEC coordinates. A supprising number didn't know how to enter the numbers on their hand paddle. I could also name names.
DT
PS: that's owners of large Schmidt telescopes as opposed to being large themselves.
--- diveboss@xmission.com wrote:
I won't name names, but I've had a couple of our clubs well known "night sky masters" while at Bryce, ask me to slew my fabulously accurate "goto" scope to an object they were trying to find among the crowded night sky, and shine my laser through the eyepiece to pin point the target so they could put their scope on it. Thank Gosh for the technology of goto's and lasers... Did I say "Gosh"? ;)
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