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Who else has this problem? I wanted especially to bring it to Ann's attention as she's the VP next year. But I can't read the Nova on-line because I have no idea what my password is or even if I have a password. I much prefer it open to all, for one thing because it lets prospective members know what we do and how much fun we have. Thanks, Joe
Joe and everyone else having this problem, As of January 1st, and maybe sooner, the NOVA will be able to be read whether or not one logs in. That way it is assessable to potential members and other interested persons. Patrick supplied a link to the latest NOVA in yesterday's NEWS to tide us over until then. To all SLAS members who do not have a password or have forgotten theirs, create a user name and login so you can keep up on SLAS member happenings. We are going to be using the Internet more and more as we are going to less paper. The costs are getting prohibitive and we can do so much more with our web site and NOVA if it is electronic. If you happen to miss a meeting or two, checking on-line is the only way to go to keep up on what is happening with SLAS. If you have questions about creating a login, call me or Ken Warner (we would be lost without him - thanks for all you do Ken!). -A
I am all for the public being able to read the Nova online, but I would like the SLAS Roster to be removed from the public version and stuck behind the membership barrier. Just on general principle, I hate to advertise the list of people who will probably not be home on meeting nights, along with their address and phone numbers. Jo Quoting Ann House <ann@annhouse.org>:
Joe and everyone else having this problem,
As of January 1st, and maybe sooner, the NOVA will be able to be read whether or not one logs in. That way it is assessable to potential members and other interested persons. Patrick supplied a link to the latest NOVA in yesterday's NEWS to tide us over until then.
Jo brings up a very valid point. We discussed this issue at a board meeting, but I am with Jo. The roster, I believe, should be for members only. -A On 12/29/06, bsi@xmission.com <bsi@xmission.com> wrote:
I am all for the public being able to read the Nova online, but I would like the SLAS Roster to be removed from the public version and stuck behind the membership barrier. Just on general principle, I hate to advertise the list of people who will probably not be home on meeting nights, along with their address and phone numbers. Jo
Quoting Ann House <ann@annhouse.org>:
Joe and everyone else having this problem,
As of January 1st, and maybe sooner, the NOVA will be able to be read whether or not one logs in. That way it is assessable to potential members and other interested persons. Patrick supplied a link to the latest NOVA in yesterday's NEWS to tide us over until then.
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SLAS members should have received an email from me yesterday with a URL to get directly to the version on the SLAS web site with the roster. However, here's a URL, available to all, to a version without the roster: http://utahastro.info/slas/nova/jf2007/NOVAJF2007.PDF As far as I know there is no rule which says the roster must be included in the newsletter. The practice of publishing the roster has roots in the (in)famous SLAS coup of '79 when members had to take the then board to court to get access to the roster. (Inside jokes: Next time you see Siegfried, walk up to him, point your finger in the air and say "Your honor, may I say something?" and see how he responds. It's also fun to approach any of the members from back then and softly imitate the sound of a dove: "Couuup, Couuup...") But now that the roster is freely available to all current SLAS members on the SLAS web site there probably is little need to publish it in the newsletter. Perhaps this could be brought up at the January SLAS board and general meetings? Patrick On 29 Dec 2006, at 11:46, bsi@xmission.com wrote:
I am all for the public being able to read the Nova online, but I would like the SLAS Roster to be removed from the public version and stuck behind the membership barrier. Just on general principle, I hate to advertise the list of people who will probably not be home on meeting nights, along with their address and phone numbers. Jo
This is a good idea, and maybe the only reason for a protected area of our website. Jim --- bsi@xmission.com wrote:
I am all for the public being able to read the Nova online, but I would like the SLAS Roster to be removed from the public version and stuck behind the membership barrier. Just on general principle, I hate to advertise the list of people who will probably not be home on meeting nights, along with their address and phone numbers. Jo
Quoting Ann House <ann@annhouse.org>:
Joe and everyone else having this problem,
As of January 1st, and maybe sooner, the NOVA will be able to be read whether or not one logs in. That way it is assessable to potential members and other interested persons. Patrick supplied a link to the latest NOVA in yesterday's NEWS to tide us over until then.
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On 29 Dec 2006, at 11:46, bsi@xmission.com wrote:
I am all for the public being able to read the Nova online, but I would like the SLAS Roster to be removed from the public version and stuck behind the membership barrier.
Hi Josephine, Boy, you must have some pull in high places. Ken Warner just rang me looking for the version of the Nova without the roster. I sent it to him and he has already replaced the "rosterized" version with the "roster-free" version. Patrick p.s. Ken suspected, and I just checked and confirmed, that the roster has never been included in the on line Novas. Problem solved?
I don't mind doing this AGAIN, but I hope SLAS can include a box like most sites have that says " do you want to retain these for future log in on this computer" so the SLAS will remember our computers's log in and automaticalaly connect us as long as we use our same computers we set up SLAS with. Will this be incorporated? Otherwise, we have the same problem of just another UN and PW each time we try to log in, and these are becomming cumbersome unless hte log on site recognizes our computer and connects us via our saved User name and PW. Jim --- Ann House <ann@annhouse.org> wrote:
Joe and everyone else having this problem,
As of January 1st, and maybe sooner, the NOVA will be able to be read whether or not one logs in. That way it is assessable to potential members and other interested persons. Patrick supplied a link to the latest NOVA in yesterday's NEWS to tide us over until then.
To all SLAS members who do not have a password or have forgotten theirs, create a user name and login so you can keep up on SLAS member happenings. We are going to be using the Internet more and more as we are going to less paper. The costs are getting prohibitive and we can do so much more with our web site and NOVA if it is electronic. If you happen to miss a meeting or two, checking on-line is the only way to go to keep up on what is happening with SLAS.
If you have questions about creating a login, call me or Ken Warner (we would be lost without him - thanks for all you do Ken!).
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I agree and I have had the same problem - with SO SO many passwords to remember today on the internet, this is far more a pain than a help, and a losing battle. I just have mine mailed now - LOT LESS hastle. Why do we need to make our newsletter such a "protected" document??? I agree with Joe, it could be a recruiting tool. Can't we PLEASE consider making this an easier task. Why can't our SLAS website "remember" us after we log in once - many others can do that. My day is full of activities and a few seconds saved is worht a lot to me. I don't have the the time to figure out our website every time I try to log on, so usually I just don't bother anymore. My 3 cents worth. Jim Stitley --- Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
Who else has this problem? I wanted especially to bring it to Ann's attention as she's the VP next year. But I can't read the Nova on-line because I have no idea what my password is or even if I have a password. I much prefer it open to all, for one thing because it lets prospective members know what we do and how much fun we have. Thanks, Joe
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Hi Jim, On 29 Dec 2006, at 13:22, Jim Stitley wrote:
I agree and I have had the same problem - with SO SO many passwords to remember today on the internet, this is far more a pain than a help, and a losing battle. Happily, as Ann pointed out, the gears are already in motion to again open Nova up to all. With luck that should happen by Monday.
I just have mine mailed now - LOT LESS hastle. But, alas, a lot less information. Those few who still get the paper copies miss out on quite a bit of stuff that just can't be included in the on line version either due to cost or technical limitations.
Why can't our SLAS website "remember" us after we log in once - many others can do that. I'm running Safari and Netscape on my Macs and both have an option to automatically fill in the logon and password information. The only problem I've found with that is that I get so used to the machine remembering my password that when I log in using someone else's machine I sometimes have trouble remembering the details. :)
My 3 cents worth. And very much appreciated. Members with comments and suggestions (and even gripes) need to voice them or the club will stagnate.
Patrick
On 29 Dec 2006, at 13:40, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
But, alas, a lot less information. Those few who still get the paper copies miss out on quite a bit of stuff that just can't be included in the on line version either due to cost or technical limitations. Ok, that should have read: "Those few who still get the paper copies miss out on quite a bit of stuff that just can't be included in the paper version either due to cost or technical limitations.
pw
Hello Patrick, Thank you for your feedback and input, Patrick. I also have auto fill in that my computer uses, but does not work with SLAS. This only works if all the User names and passwords are exactly the same, and in today's internet owlrd, this is less and less the case. But you are also right, if we log in from another computer . . . someday these silly 3 pound pieces of plastic and a little metal will take over and make ALL our decisions including meals, evacuation time, mate selection, naming our children and all of lifes needless requirement. WHEN this does happen, we have to ReMember WHO gave these computers all this power - us'ins. Jim --- Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
On 29 Dec 2006, at 13:22, Jim Stitley wrote:
I agree and I have had the same problem - with SO SO many passwords to remember today on the internet, this is far more a pain than a help, and a losing battle. Happily, as Ann pointed out, the gears are already in motion to again open Nova up to all. With luck that should happen by Monday.
I just have mine mailed now - LOT LESS hastle. But, alas, a lot less information. Those few who still get the paper copies miss out on quite a bit of stuff that just can't be included in the on line version either due to cost or technical limitations.
Why can't our SLAS website "remember" us after we log in once - many others can do that. I'm running Safari and Netscape on my Macs and both have an option to automatically fill in the logon and password information. The only problem I've found with that is that I get so used to the machine remembering my password that when I log in using someone else's machine I sometimes have trouble remembering the details. :)
My 3 cents worth. And very much appreciated. Members with comments and suggestions (and even gripes) need to voice them or the club will stagnate.
Patrick
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Here are 3 cents today. I have made the Nova public for everybody once again. I think as a compromise maybe we should consider having the current Nova available to members and then make the older issues public. That way members will feel they are getting some value for their membership. The direct link to the Nova won't have any password protection on it and you will get it a day or 2 before the mailed version. The SLAS site will always have a log in to keep our membership roster protected as well as know who you are when you sign up for events. Since you asked so nicely, I put a Remember Logon Name checkbox on the log in page. You need to make sure your browser can save Cookies for this to work. Internet Explorer should ask you if you want to save your password, so all you will have to do is hit the logon button. You also need to remember that my day is full of activities too and I usually work on the SLAS site late at night after the kids are in bed. I'm all for making the SLAS website more user friendly, but I will change it how the board wants it within reason. Any requests for the SLAS web site enhancements, updates or problems can be directed to me at webmaster@slas.us (If you ask nicely I can make them more of a priority). Thanks, Ken -----Original Message----- --- Jim Stitley wrote:
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:23 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Can't read Nova
I agree and I have had the same problem - with SO SO many passwords to remember today on the internet, this is far more a pain than a help, and a losing battle. I just have mine mailed now - LOT >LESS hastle. Why do we need to make our newsletter such a "protected" document??? I agree with Joe, it could be a recruiting tool. Can't we PLEASE consider making this an easier task. Why can't >our SLAS website "remember" us after we log in once - many others can do that. My day is full of activities and a few seconds saved is worht a lot to me. I don't have the the time to figure out >our website every time I try to log on, so usually I just don't bother anymore. My 3 cents worth. Jim Stitley
--- Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote:
Who else has this problem? I wanted especially to bring it to Ann's attention as she's the VP next year. But I can't read the Nova on-line because I have no idea what my password is or even if I have a password. I much prefer it open to all, for one thing because it lets prospective members know what we do and how much fun we have. Thanks, Joe
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