Re: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?"
Agreed. Patrick's are much better. But I'm beginning to worry that ISON will be another fizzle, since the tail that showed in his earlier pics seems to have disappeared. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 7:01 AM MDT Kelly Ricks wrote:
Too bad they didn't use one of Patrick's recent pictures of ISON. I think his are all better than the one featured in the article.
I hope the optimistic predictions pan out. It must be something else to be able to see a comet in the daytime sky. I try to picture how the moon looks when it's up in the afternoon...kind of a translucent bluish gray...and then mold it into the shape of a sweeping comet. It's a fun thought experiment anyway...
~Kelly
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:45:23 -0600 From: Thomas Sevcik <sfv1ts@hotmail.com> To: SLAS astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?" Message-ID: <BAY159-W55EB31CC9814705597BBF79AE90@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Interesting article I came across about what's already being hyped as the "Comet of the Century!" Sounds like the armada of space telescopes planned to observe ISON will make this one of the most space vehicle watched comets that I can recall. I just hope that the public will not become so desensitized by all the media coverage (mind-blowing images from Hubble for example) that they don't get outside and take a look for themselves.
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/18/17361256-astronomers-gear-up-for... Tom Sevcik
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Hi Joe, I don't think the tail is actually disappearing. Rather, as was mentioned here earlier, any clouds, even the thin ones you can't see, mess with the tail's visibility. We saw that at SPOC last evening. So I'm guessing the tail is there, it's just the seeing conditions that make it appear to disappear from time to time. patrick p.s. Looking to the west from here near SPOC the skies continue to be very clear. Looking good for comet viewing tonight. Y'all come! Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:40, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
But I'm beginning to worry that ISON will be another fizzle, since the tail that showed in his earlier pics seems to have disappeared. -- Joe
Joe, Just keep in mind that ISON is still a very long ways off. The fact that the tail seams to diminish doesn't bother me at all. It is still far enough away from the sun that its water ice hasn't yet sublimated. Also, the tail may still be there but our perspective relative to its motion and the sun may be such that the tail is pointed more away from us allowing the coma to block its view. Rodger C. Fry -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:41 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?" Agreed. Patrick's are much better. But I'm beginning to worry that ISON will be another fizzle, since the tail that showed in his earlier pics seems to have disappeared. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 7:01 AM MDT Kelly Ricks wrote:
Too bad they didn't use one of Patrick's recent pictures of ISON. I think his are all better than the one featured in the article.
I hope the optimistic predictions pan out. It must be something else to be able to see a comet in the daytime sky. I try to picture how the moon looks when it's up in the afternoon...kind of a translucent bluish gray...and then mold it into the shape of a sweeping comet. It's a fun thought experiment anyway...
~Kelly
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:45:23 -0600 From: Thomas Sevcik <sfv1ts@hotmail.com> To: SLAS astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?" Message-ID: <BAY159-W55EB31CC9814705597BBF79AE90@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Interesting article I came across about what's already being hyped as the "Comet of the Century!" Sounds like the armada of space telescopes planned to observe ISON will make this one of the most space vehicle watched comets that I can recall. I just hope that the public will not become so desensitized by all the media coverage (mind-blowing images from Hubble for example) that they don't get outside and take a look for themselves.
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/18/17361256-astronomers-gear -up-for-comet-of-the-century?lite= Tom Sevcik
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Since we're dealing with comets, I think Joe's skepticism might be justified, at least a little. It's never a good idea to label one "Comet of the Century" so far ahead of perihelion- AND this early in the millenium. Such labels should only be applied after the comet has proven itself. We can and should be hopeful, but I think the amount of press we're seeing on ISON this early is unjustified. PanSTARRS certainly proved that too much press buildup can lead to a letdown, at least for northern hemisphere viewers in this instance. I'd like to see the "daylight comet" predictions toned-down, too. I've already seen people on this list imagining something that almost certainly won't materialize. Daylight comets are never as spectacular as the night-time apparitions. They are just visible, and usually just the coma and a very short section of tail, if any at all. There are exceptions, but they are very, very rare. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Joe, Just keep in mind that ISON is still a very long ways off. The fact that the tail seams to diminish doesn't bother me at all.
Seems Panstar behaved just like it was thought it would, just hype period.
Since we're dealing with comets, I think Joe's skepticism might be
justified, at least a little. It's never a good idea to label one "Comet of the Century" so far ahead of perihelion- AND this early in the millenium. Such labels should only be applied after the comet has proven itself.
We can and should be hopeful, but I think the amount of press we're seeing on ISON this early is unjustified. PanSTARRS certainly proved that too much press buildup can lead to a letdown, at least for northern hemisphere viewers in this instance.
I'd like to see the "daylight comet" predictions toned-down, too. I've already seen people on this list imagining something that almost certainly won't materialize. Daylight comets are never as spectacular as the night-time apparitions. They are just visible, and usually just the coma and a very short section of tail, if any at all. There are exceptions, but they are very, very rare.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Joe, Just keep in mind that ISON is still a very long ways off. The fact that the tail seams to diminish doesn't bother me at all.
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Any other news/updates on comet Lemmon that's supposed to make an appearance in the N. Hemisphere in early April? http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/20961693/comet-discovered-by-mt-lemmon-sk... ________________________________ From: "erikhansen@thebluezone.net" <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?"
Seems Panstar behaved just like it was thought it would, just hype period.
Since we're dealing with comets, I think Joe's skepticism might be
justified, at least a little. It's never a good idea to label one "Comet of the Century" so far ahead of perihelion- AND this early in the millenium. Such labels should only be applied after the comet has proven itself.
We can and should be hopeful, but I think the amount of press we're seeing on ISON this early is unjustified. PanSTARRS certainly proved that too much press buildup can lead to a letdown, at least for northern hemisphere viewers in this instance.
I'd like to see the "daylight comet" predictions toned-down, too. I've already seen people on this list imagining something that almost certainly won't materialize. Daylight comets are never as spectacular as the night-time apparitions. They are just visible, and usually just the coma and a very short section of tail, if any at all. There are exceptions, but they are very, very rare.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> wrote:
Joe, Just keep in mind that ISON is still a very long ways off. The fact that the tail seams to diminish doesn't bother me at all.
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True. I'm anxious to see it, but I too am worried about the overheated hype we've read elsewhere. -- Joe ________________________________ From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry@comcast.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?" Joe, Just keep in mind that ISON is still a very long ways off. The fact that the tail seams to diminish doesn't bother me at all. It is still far enough away from the sun that its water ice hasn't yet sublimated. Also, the tail may still be there but our perspective relative to its motion and the sun may be such that the tail is pointed more away from us allowing the coma to block its view. Rodger C. Fry -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bauman Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:41 AM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?" Agreed. Patrick's are much better. But I'm beginning to worry that ISON will be another fizzle, since the tail that showed in his earlier pics seems to have disappeared. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 7:01 AM MDT Kelly Ricks wrote:
Too bad they didn't use one of Patrick's recent pictures of ISON. I think his are all better than the one featured in the article.
I hope the optimistic predictions pan out. It must be something else to be able to see a comet in the daytime sky. I try to picture how the moon looks when it's up in the afternoon...kind of a translucent bluish gray...and then mold it into the shape of a sweeping comet. It's a fun thought experiment anyway...
~Kelly
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:45:23 -0600 From: Thomas Sevcik <sfv1ts@hotmail.com> To: SLAS astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Article on the "Comet of the Century!?" Message-ID: <BAY159-W55EB31CC9814705597BBF79AE90@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Interesting article I came across about what's already being hyped as the "Comet of the Century!" Sounds like the armada of space telescopes planned to observe ISON will make this one of the most space vehicle watched comets that I can recall. I just hope that the public will not become so desensitized by all the media coverage (mind-blowing images from Hubble for example) that they don't get outside and take a look for themselves.
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/18/17361256-astronomers-gear -up-for-comet-of-the-century?lite= Tom Sevcik
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Richard Tenney -
Rodger C. Fry