Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm not sure you understand. Dale, your computer may not have been hacked in any way. IF someone you know had your address on their list and they got hacked then your e-mail address is part of this problem that is going on. My MSN account was closed long before this started. It had nothing to do with MY computer being hacked. Keep your guard up, good spam and virus software, change your password regularly and don't open e-mail if you don't know who it is and never if there is no subject. I have received "no subject" from several people and have simply dropped them an e-mail asking if they sent it. Several had not some had and just forgot to put in subject matter. And for what it is worth, it is my belief that Bill Gates did NOT design his software to be spied on and hacked. If anyone did it, it was George W ;) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rankin" <David@rankinstudio.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:53:55 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] bad emails Dale, Try to download AVG free antivirus (its probably a trojan doing the emails) and when that is done - change the password to your email account. http://free.avg.com/us-en/download-free-antivirus Should fix it. David On 3/20/11 10:18 AM, Dale Wilson wrote:
Sorry, I got hacked. I may be having to change email addresses. Apologies for the strange emails.
Dale
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I haven't gone to check yet but most mailman list serves have left the default new user creation check box checked for a monthly password reminder. Mailman sends that password via plain text. This can pose many issues, esp. if you use a few of the same passwords for a bunch of things. Because it's sent plain text it doesn't matter it's complexity anymore, it's been fully exposed and now sits in your email box. if email was being sniffed from the mailserver of your provider, it is possible it was stolen. If some "backdoor" was used to gain access to your mail account, it could have been stolen. The list can go on. I've only had it happen to me twice. Once with an extremely old yahoo account that I was only reminded of when it occurred. fix: password change once i reset it. Second was a compromise from my iPhone. I can't remember what website it was, but I was reading about something and had left the webpage open. The next morning I had a bunch of emails sent on my behalf to everyone in my gmail email. Note, i also had my gmail up in safari along with that page(and others). I eventually just set up the gmail via the exchange method to prevent it further and close all websites besides those i full trust on my phone from now on. Most viruses that you will get on your PC will be profit bearing for the maker. There is little profit from card #'s, ssn's, etc. Making sure you see a crap load of ad's though, that's profitable. Just my 2c from my IT days. Just keep in mind, most people are prone to any webhacks no matter the OS.. Linux, Mac or Windows. The only time it will be specific is when there are a few ands in there like, Adobe, firefox and Windows. HTH -Jonathan
On 20 Mar 2011, at 11:16, sfisher01@comcast.net wrote:
And for what it is worth, it is my belief that Bill Gates did NOT design his software to be spied on and hacked. If anyone did it, it was George W ;)
Not possible. They didn't have computers in George Washington's time. :) BTW, just to keep it light, of the 4 phony emails I received today one tried to direct me to an architectural firm. Hmmm, do you supposed that's how Kim drums up business. :) patrick
No - hadn't thought of that yet. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:50 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] bad emails (humor) BTW, just to keep it light, of the 4 phony emails I received today one tried to direct me to an architectural firm. Hmmm, do you supposed that's how Kim drums up business. :) patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3518 - Release Date: 03/20/11
I downloaded a new antivirus software and changed my email password. Hope this fixes it. Sorry again for all the garbage. Dale ________________________________ From: Kim Hyatt <kimharch@cut.net> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 4:55:05 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] bad emails (humor) No - hadn't thought of that yet. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:50 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] bad emails (humor) BTW, just to keep it light, of the 4 phony emails I received today one tried to direct me to an architectural firm. Hmmm, do you supposed that's how Kim drums up business. :) patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3518 - Release Date: 03/20/11 _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Yahoo has a option for their email, and you may already be using it, but it helps to make your account more secure. It's called, a sign-in seal. there is also a security key creation step that is a second level of security beyond a password, i don't know when it comes into use though. As far as a password goes for yahoo, i would recommend a passphrase over a password. IE: "I love astronomy" spaces and all. add a period at the end for an added bonus. Something that might be handy is this: ftp://ftp.fourmilab.ch/pub/javascrypt/pass_phrase.html The Seed is your ultimate password. By default it shows some really long text, you can change that to be an extremely long passphrase. Once you've typed that in, based on that string it will generate passphrases based on your criteria. I would change it to 3 words, and uncheck number. This can be useful if you want to use passphrases for a bunch of stuff. The source for this is also downloadable if you don't trust it being up there, and you could just view the page locally on your machine. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Dale Wilson <dalel2112@yahoo.com> wrote:
I downloaded a new antivirus software and changed my email password. Hope this fixes it. Sorry again for all the garbage.
Dale
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No - hadn't thought of that yet.
Kim
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BTW, just to keep it light, of the 4 phony emails I received today one tried to direct me to an architectural firm. Hmmm, do you supposed that's how Kim drums up business. :)
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Just send him your banking routing numbers.
No - hadn't thought of that yet.
Kim
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BTW, just to keep it light, of the 4 phony emails I received today one tried to direct me to an architectural firm. Hmmm, do you supposed that's how Kim drums up business. :)
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Gates did embed mechanisms to track who was using his software, mostly to track unathourized use.
On 20 Mar 2011, at 11:16, sfisher01@comcast.net wrote:
And for what it is worth, it is my belief that Bill Gates did NOT design his software to be spied on and hacked. If anyone did it, it was George W ;)
Not possible. They didn't have computers in George Washington's time. :)
BTW, just to keep it light, of the 4 phony emails I received today one tried to direct me to an architectural firm. Hmmm, do you supposed that's how Kim drums up business. :)
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