I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8 (not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know) Dan -- Daniel Holmes, danielh@holmesonics.com "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin
Hi Dan, Thanks for posting. I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :) I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text. Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates. patrick On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish it was written for Androids as well. ________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS. Hi Dan, Thanks for posting. I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :) I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text. Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates. patrick On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple. 'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :) BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg patrick On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish it was written for Androids as well.
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
I have a Mac even older than that one. Apple 11C, I think it was 1986 or so when I got it. Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish it was written for Androids as well.
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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Ah, you kids and your toys. My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE. (Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself) Dan -- Sent from an iPad. There should be less mispelings, but more errors. On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Mark Shelton <astroshelton@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have a Mac even older than that one. Apple 11C, I think it was 1986 or so when I got it.
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish it was written for Androids as well.
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
Heh. I bought the Burroughs intake hopper from the Utah State University bid sale. Had a couple decks of unpunched cards too. Unfortunately, it didn't survive the great purge of 2002 (aka my move to Denver). When I was working at Visa a few years later, there was a contest to identify old computer hardware. I was the only one on the floor to identify the 80 byte punch card. Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors. On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
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Hollerith cards, man those were the days. You've come a long way, baby. (And if you remember the product that slogan advertized, then you truly are an "old timer"...) On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Heh. I bought the Burroughs intake hopper from the Utah State University bid sale. Had a couple decks of unpunched cards too.
Unfortunately, it didn't survive the great purge of 2002 (aka my move to Denver).
When I was working at Visa a few years later, there was a contest to identify old computer hardware. I was the only one on the floor to identify the 80 byte punch card.
I never had the pleasure to use the punch cards, I was just collecting ild hardware. (Kind of a 'know your history thing') I did however use the last 9 track drive systems produced. Was working on them up until I moved. On the 'know your history', I saw a hipster the other day at City Creek wearing a shirt with that slogan. It had a picture of the original Nintendo controller. Almost spit out my triple venti mocha chip cappuccino. Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors. On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Hollerith cards, man those were the days. You've come a long way, baby. (And if you remember the product that slogan advertized, then you truly are an "old timer"...)
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Heh. I bought the Burroughs intake hopper from the Utah State University bid sale. Had a couple decks of unpunched cards too.
Unfortunately, it didn't survive the great purge of 2002 (aka my move to Denver).
When I was working at Visa a few years later, there was a contest to identify old computer hardware. I was the only one on the floor to identify the 80 byte punch card.
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Then you better put down your cappuccino, because the slogan was originally coined for Virginia Slims cigarettes, beginning in 1968. Back when cigarettes could be advertised on TV. I remember those commercials when Armstrong was walking on the moon. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
On the 'know your history', I saw a hipster the other day at City Creek wearing a shirt with that slogan. It had a picture of the original Nintendo controller. Almost spit out my triple venti mocha chip cappuccino.
Oh, I meant the slogan 'know your history'. I thought it was pretty strange to see that on a video game controller that was years after the original Atari 2600 (and that wasn't even the first). I was a bit young to pay attention to cigarette advertising. :) Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors. On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Then you better put down your cappuccino, because the slogan was originally coined for Virginia Slims cigarettes, beginning in 1968.
Back when cigarettes could be advertised on TV. I remember those commercials when Armstrong was walking on the moon.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
On the 'know your history', I saw a hipster the other day at City Creek wearing a shirt with that slogan. It had a picture of the original Nintendo controller. Almost spit out my triple venti mocha chip cappuccino.
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Virginia Slims... Mat -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+mat.hutchings=siemens.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+mat.hutchings=siemens.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 9:18 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) Hollerith cards, man those were the days. You've come a long way, baby. (And if you remember the product that slogan advertized, then you truly are an "old timer"...) On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Heh. I bought the Burroughs intake hopper from the Utah State University bid sale. Had a couple decks of unpunched cards too.
Unfortunately, it didn't survive the great purge of 2002 (aka my move to Denver).
When I was working at Visa a few years later, there was a contest to identify old computer hardware. I was the only one on the floor to identify the 80 byte punch card.
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I am most affectionately known as the star-geezer at my house. Mat -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:03 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) Mat, you are an official "Old Timer". ;-) On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Hutchings, Mat <mat.hutchings@siemens.com>wrote:
Virginia Slims...
Mat
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Well if you're going to be that way about it... FORTRAN, Univac 1108, stacks of punch cards, got your results from the I/O room, U of U MEB >1974<. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:56 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
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You were one of those seniors who kept bumping me, a lowly freshman! On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Well if you're going to be that way about it...
FORTRAN, Univac 1108, stacks of punch cards, got your results from the I/O room, U of U MEB >1974<.
I have to share this. The planetarium's Education Manager, Duke Johnson, is at this moment up in Yellow Knife, Canada, on an expedition with a couple of friends to photograph the Northern Lights. It's -35F as they're shooting. One of the members of his team just uploaded a bunch of their photos to her blog: http://cherilynnmorrow.net/category/northern-lights-yellowknife-2013/ Holy Cow! Enjoy!
Great share Seth, Thanks! --- On Fri, 3/8/13, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
From: Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Northern Lights Photography To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 12:27 PM I have to share this.
The planetarium's Education Manager, Duke Johnson, is at this moment up in Yellow Knife, Canada, on an expedition with a couple of friends to photograph the Northern Lights.
It's -35F as they're shooting.
One of the members of his team just uploaded a bunch of their photos to her blog:
http://cherilynnmorrow.net/category/northern-lights-yellowknife-2013/
Holy Cow!
Enjoy!
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"Cool" photos! ________________________________ From: Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 12:27 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Northern Lights Photography I have to share this. The planetarium's Education Manager, Duke Johnson, is at this moment up in Yellow Knife, Canada, on an expedition with a couple of friends to photograph the Northern Lights. It's -35F as they're shooting. One of the members of his team just uploaded a bunch of their photos to her blog: http://cherilynnmorrow.net/category/northern-lights-yellowknife-2013/ Holy Cow! Enjoy! _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
They have a Kickstarter campaign for the expedition: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/381997405/northern-lights-photo-expediti... ----- Original Message ----- From: Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 12:27 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Northern Lights Photography I have to share this. The planetarium's Education Manager, Duke Johnson, is at this moment up in Yellow Knife, Canada, on an expedition with a couple of friends to photograph the Northern Lights. It's -35F as they're shooting. One of the members of his team just uploaded a bunch of their photos to her blog: http://cherilynnmorrow.net/category/northern-lights-yellowknife-2013/ Holy Cow! Enjoy! _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Amazing blog & photos, Seth. Thank you for sharing. 73 On 3/8/2013 12:27 PM, Seth Jarvis wrote:
I have to share this.
The planetarium's Education Manager, Duke Johnson, is at this moment up in Yellow Knife, Canada, on an expedition with a couple of friends to photograph the Northern Lights.
It's -35F as they're shooting.
One of the members of his team just uploaded a bunch of their photos to her blog:
http://cherilynnmorrow.net/category/northern-lights-yellowknife-2013/
Holy Cow!
Enjoy!
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Sounds like I'm in good company. My first computer-related job (1979) was at Computer Sciences Corporation in San Diego, primarily loading punched card decks for customers, and printing out the results. Almost 10 years later at General Dynamics, I wrote a program to replace the punched-paper-tape interface to the numerically controlled drill they were using for printed circuit boards for aviation electronics. In my first programming class at Grossmont College our code was punched on card decks and submitted to the batch queue - usually a 10 minute wait to see if your code compiled and ran correctly :) I remember more than one poor soul accidentally dropping their card deck, unlabeled, and sitting on the floor crying over the resulting mess. ________________________________ From: Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) Well if you're going to be that way about it... FORTRAN, Univac 1108, stacks of punch cards, got your results from the I/O room, U of U MEB >1974<. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:56 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
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I was there too, Seth. I believe it was FORTRAN IV. If you went to the computer center at about 01:00 the punch-card reader was incredibly fast. During the day, with all the time-sharing (even with the VA), the reader was slower than my mind is, now. Dave On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Well if you're going to be that way about it...
FORTRAN, Univac 1108, stacks of punch cards, got your results from the I/O room, U of U MEB >1974<.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:56 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS)
I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
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Yes, FORTRAN IV. And yes, the wee-small-hours were best. Lived on Hostess fruit pies, Snickers, and Coke from the vending machines for days on end. It's amazing what you can endure when you're 20 years old. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Gary Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:53 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) I was there too, Seth. I believe it was FORTRAN IV. If you went to the computer center at about 01:00 the punch-card reader was incredibly fast. During the day, with all the time-sharing (even with the VA), the reader was slower than my mind is, now. Dave On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Well if you're going to be that way about it...
FORTRAN, Univac 1108, stacks of punch cards, got your results from the I/O room, U of U MEB >1974<.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:56 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS)
I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
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Just recycled my old Dell and CRT monitor, a good thing they did not charge by the pound.
An iPad is 1000x more computer and feather light, as is my Mac PowerBook. I did my first programming on a UNIVAC 1108. It occupied an entire room
at Merrill Engineering at the U. 1976. Basic and Fortran. On punch cards. Computers didn't fit on desk tops in those days.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Ah, you kids and your toys.
My Commodore 64 that I taught myself assembly language on in 82-83 is still working. Used it up into my first year of college when I started using the UNIX workstations. Although I did use it (and 2 others I had acquired by then) my junior year as part of a parallel programming course in CS and a hardware course in EE.
(Granted, assembly isn't a big deal on a 6510 chip, but I was pretty proud of myself)
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Got ya beat. Apple II+, 1979. It was that or a high-end HP programmable calculator and I gambled on this new thing called a "Personal Computer." I "pumped it up" to a massive 48k of RAM and really impressed my friends. I stood in line for most of a day at the U of U bookstore in 1984 to buy the first Macintosh. I've bought a new Mac every two years ever since, without a break. Moore's Law is a beautiful thing. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shelton Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:14 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) I have a Mac even older than that one. Apple 11C, I think it was 1986 or so when I got it. Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish it was written for Androids as well.
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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Then you remember loading it from a cassette tape! LOL. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Got ya beat.
Apple II+, 1979. It was that or a high-end HP programmable calculator and I gambled on this new thing called a "Personal Computer." I "pumped it up" to a massive 48k of RAM and really impressed my friends.
I stood in line for most of a day at the U of U bookstore in 1984 to buy the first Macintosh. I've bought a new Mac every two years ever since, without a break. Moore's Law is a beautiful thing.
Sure do! And my little RCA 13" TV was the monitor. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:15 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) Then you remember loading it from a cassette tape! LOL. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Got ya beat.
Apple II+, 1979. It was that or a high-end HP programmable calculator and I gambled on this new thing called a "Personal Computer." I "pumped it up" to a massive 48k of RAM and really impressed my friends.
I stood in line for most of a day at the U of U bookstore in 1984 to buy the first Macintosh. I've bought a new Mac every two years ever since, without a break. Moore's Law is a beautiful thing.
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Anyone seen the video from a few years ago with a 10 year old being handed a Walkman and asked to make it work? I'll find it when I get back to the house, but the poor kid is completely befuddled. Dan -- Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors. On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Then you remember loading it from a cassette tape!
That reminds me of when I showed my at-the-time 8 year old daughter some of my old vinyl records from my teenage years. She said, "Wow, dad, the CD's were so big and black back then. Your Discman must have been HUGE!" On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com>wrote:
Anyone seen the video from a few years ago with a 10 year old being handed a Walkman and asked to make it work? I'll find it when I get back to the house, but the poor kid is completely befuddled.
For about 18 months in the mid 60s, I operated an IBM punch machine, just a very small one, not the model 20, or 26, just can't remember. Our cards were sent to a central office in Oakland. I remember the computer had the board at one end where you hand changed the wires, depending upon what you were doing. 73 On 3/7/2013 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish it was written for Androids as well.
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8 And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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This was a paying job? Larry clearly wins. On Mar 8, 2013 5:28 PM, "Larry Holmes" <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
For about 18 months in the mid 60s, I operated an IBM punch machine, just a very small one, not the model 20, or 26, just can't remember. Our cards were sent to a central office in Oakland. I remember the computer had the board at one end where you hand changed the wires, depending upon what you were doing. 73
On 3/7/2013 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.**com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg<http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg>
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish
it was written for Androids as well.
______________________________**__ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.**xmission.com<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is
free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/**app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=**8<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8> And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/**app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?**mt=8<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8>
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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When I was in school for CS, Dad told me that story and said "And that's when I discovered computers were not in my career. I hope you tolerate those infernal machines better than I did, son" Dan On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
This was a paying job?
Larry clearly wins. On Mar 8, 2013 5:28 PM, "Larry Holmes" <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
For about 18 months in the mid 60s, I operated an IBM punch machine, just a very small one, not the model 20, or 26, just can't remember. Our cards were sent to a central office in Oakland. I remember the computer had the board at one end where you hand changed the wires, depending upon what you were doing. 73
On 3/7/2013 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.**com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg<http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg>
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish
it was written for Androids as well.
______________________________**__ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.**xmission.com<utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is
free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/**app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=**8<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8> And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/**app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?**mt=8<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8>
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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I actually took a CS course at the U. about 1967, when all the later-big-names in computers were getting started. We had punch card machines where we had to laboriously punch in programs, one mathematical phrase at a time. Then we would take the punch cards and pile them up into some kind of feeder. Then the machine would -- Braaaappp! -- run them through. But mine would never go through completely. My equations always had some horrible error that kept the programs from working. I think I got a mercy C. Meanwhile other guys my age went on to found multibillion dollar companies. That's why I write ________________________________ From: Daniel Holmes <danielh@holmesonics.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Times-a-changin (Was: Star Rover for iOS) When I was in school for CS, Dad told me that story and said "And that's when I discovered computers were not in my career. I hope you tolerate those infernal machines better than I did, son" Dan On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
This was a paying job?
Larry clearly wins. On Mar 8, 2013 5:28 PM, "Larry Holmes" <larry@kijoda.com> wrote:
For about 18 months in the mid 60s, I operated an IBM punch machine, just a very small one, not the model 20, or 26, just can't remember. Our cards were sent to a central office in Oakland. I remember the computer had the board at one end where you hand changed the wires, depending upon what you were doing. 73
On 3/7/2013 7:36 PM, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
The times certainly have changed. I remember back to when I got my Mac in the mid 80s and back then it was us Apple people wishing this or that program were written for Apple.
'Course that was when you could buy Apple stock dirt cheap. Oh, if only I've invested then I'd have a much bigger plane today. :)
BTW, here's a comparison shot of my current Mac sitting next to me first (yep, the first one still works), http://users.wirelessbeehive.**com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg<http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/oldnew.jpg>
patrick
On 07 Mar 2013, at 14:30, william baker wrote:
I have downloaded onto an iPad, and yes it is pretty cool. I just wish
it was written for Androids as well.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Star Rover for iOS.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting.
I didn't really need yet another astronomy app but the price was right. :)
I tried it out on both my ancient iPhone and my not quite so ancient iPad 2. I liked it better on the iPad simply because it was easier for my old eyes to read the text.
Seemed to work fine on both devices. I'll give it a more thorough workout when next the weather cooperates.
patrick
On 06 Mar 2013, at 14:24, Daniel Holmes wrote:
I haven't used it, but those with iDevices may like it...Star Rover is
free today:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/**app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=**8<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover/id386628906?mt=8> And the iPad HD version: https://itunes.apple.com/us/**app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?**mt=8<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-rover-hd/id437217048?mt=8>
(not a customer, not even downloading it, but I thought others would at least like to know)
Dan
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