Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way
Greetings and Happy Monday... I am seeking a book/map/chart that I can use while stargazing with the scope. Here is what I would like in such a product: a. Star charts - a full two page spread of each constellation with plenty of detail. b. No, none, zero, zip, zilch explanations of types of stars, black holes, planets, etc., etc. etc. I have plenty of books on those topics. c. Loose leaf, spiral bound, or folded. Something that will lay flat without busting the binding. d. No batteries, no keyboards, no screens, no antennas, no buttons, just paper. I am new to astronomy but I expect my efforts will be along these lines: a. Zero, if any, scanning the skies hoping to find something (too much to find) b. Create an observation plan and work it. In other words, I expect to have specific targets in mind each night. The book/map/chart I've described above will be used to find the target objects. Now, while I am an engineer geek type, I am, also, a nostalgic old Geezer and I fancy myself hunting for objects the way they did before computers. To me, half the fun of looking at an object is finding it. Hey, I found M57 last night in nearly full moonlight. I did cheat a bit and used a green laser point mounted on my DOB. Smack dab dead on. I was impressed. Your mileage may vary. Jim Harvey, aka... -- Watch 'Yer Top Knot and Keep Your Powder Dry, James Richard Harvey - The Wyoming Geezer The Great Curmudgeon AKA El Gran Cascarrabias AKA J. Peter Fudpucker Hunkered down on Planet Earth "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." *Juan Ramón Jiménez Mantecón (1881 - 1958), As quoted in the epigraph in **Fahrenheit 451* <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451>* (1953) by **Ray Bradbury * <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury>*;* I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, - "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, - "That government is best which governs not at all"; *Henry David Thoreau - "Civil Disobedience"* *NOTE TO NSA and DHS: *Nothing in this email is, in any way, either by subtle reference or direct statement, intended to be taken out of context as a threat to Homeland Security or the Thought Police. I am not the Droid you are looking for. Please tell the Ministry of Truth and the Messiah President Barack Hussein Obama II that I am one of the good guys and pray for a helping hand. Send checks to my address on file.
Jim, My favorite is "Night Watch" by Dickerson. It is available at Barnes and Noble and contains four index charts (one for each season) that shows the location in the detailed star charts it contaings. It is spiral bound and the text is good to view at night under red light. Thanks Rodger C. Fry -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of James Harvey Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:44 PM To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way Greetings and Happy Monday... I am seeking a book/map/chart that I can use while stargazing with the scope. Here is what I would like in such a product: a. Star charts - a full two page spread of each constellation with plenty of detail. b. No, none, zero, zip, zilch explanations of types of stars, black holes, planets, etc., etc. etc. I have plenty of books on those topics. c. Loose leaf, spiral bound, or folded. Something that will lay flat without busting the binding. d. No batteries, no keyboards, no screens, no antennas, no buttons, just paper. I am new to astronomy but I expect my efforts will be along these lines: a. Zero, if any, scanning the skies hoping to find something (too much to find) b. Create an observation plan and work it. In other words, I expect to have specific targets in mind each night. The book/map/chart I've described above will be used to find the target objects. Now, while I am an engineer geek type, I am, also, a nostalgic old Geezer and I fancy myself hunting for objects the way they did before computers. To me, half the fun of looking at an object is finding it. Hey, I found M57 last night in nearly full moonlight. I did cheat a bit and used a green laser point mounted on my DOB. Smack dab dead on. I was impressed. Your mileage may vary. Jim Harvey, aka... -- Watch 'Yer Top Knot and Keep Your Powder Dry, James Richard Harvey - The Wyoming Geezer The Great Curmudgeon AKA El Gran Cascarrabias AKA J. Peter Fudpucker Hunkered down on Planet Earth "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." *Juan Ramón Jiménez Mantecón (1881 - 1958), As quoted in the epigraph in **Fahrenheit 451* <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451>* (1953) by **Ray Bradbury * <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury>*;* I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, - "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, - "That government is best which governs not at all"; *Henry David Thoreau - "Civil Disobedience"* *NOTE TO NSA and DHS: *Nothing in this email is, in any way, either by subtle reference or direct statement, intended to be taken out of context as a threat to Homeland Security or the Thought Police. I am not the Droid you are looking for. Please tell the Ministry of Truth and the Messiah President Barack Hussein Obama II that I am one of the good guys and pray for a helping hand. Send checks to my address on file. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
Tirion Sky Atlas probably the closest to your specs. Available from SkyPublishing and maybe the Clark Planetarium. Seth?
Greetings and Happy Monday...
I am seeking a book/map/chart that I can use while stargazing with the scope. Here is what I would like in such a product:
a. Star charts - a full two page spread of each constellation with plenty of detail. b. No, none, zero, zip, zilch explanations of types of stars, black holes, planets, etc., etc. etc. I have plenty of books on those topics. c. Loose leaf, spiral bound, or folded. Something that will lay flat without busting the binding. d. No batteries, no keyboards, no screens, no antennas, no buttons, just paper.
I am new to astronomy but I expect my efforts will be along these lines: a. Zero, if any, scanning the skies hoping to find something (too much to find) b. Create an observation plan and work it. In other words, I expect to have specific targets in mind each night.
The book/map/chart I've described above will be used to find the target objects.
Now, while I am an engineer geek type, I am, also, a nostalgic old Geezer and I fancy myself hunting for objects the way they did before computers. To me, half the fun of looking at an object is finding it. Hey, I found M57 last night in nearly full moonlight. I did cheat a bit and used a green laser point mounted on my DOB. Smack dab dead on. I was impressed. Your mileage may vary.
Jim Harvey, aka...
-- Watch 'Yer Top Knot and Keep Your Powder Dry,
James Richard Harvey - The Wyoming Geezer The Great Curmudgeon AKA El Gran Cascarrabias AKA J. Peter Fudpucker Hunkered down on Planet Earth
"If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." *Juan Ramón Jiménez Mantecón (1881 - 1958), As quoted in the epigraph in **Fahrenheit 451* <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451>* (1953) by **Ray Bradbury * <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury>*;*
I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, - "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, - "That government is best which governs not at all"; *Henry David Thoreau - "Civil Disobedience"*
*NOTE TO NSA and DHS: *Nothing in this email is, in any way, either by subtle reference or direct statement, intended to be taken out of context as a threat to Homeland Security or the Thought Police. I am not the Droid you are looking for. Please tell the Ministry of Truth and the Messiah President Barack Hussein Obama II that I am one of the good guys and pray for a helping hand. Send checks to my address on file. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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I agree with Roger on the usefulness of Dickson's book "Night Watch." The book has great star charts and it is a spiral-bound book. We sell hundreds of copies of that book here each year. I've lately taken to giving away a copy of the book to folks who buy their first telescope from us (if I happen to be the guy selling the telescope). That said, it doesn't sound like what Jim Harvey is looking for. Sounds like Jim is looking for old-school he-man hard-core star charts. Jim, I've gotta ask - you do know we're now well into the 21st Century, right? Have you seen what you can do with a laptop or an iPad where star charts are concerned? ;) I'll ask my store manager what he's seen along the lines of old-school hard-core start charts. If I find anything I'll post it here. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@thebluezone.net Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:29 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way
Tirion Sky Atlas probably the closest to your specs. Available from SkyPublishing and maybe the Clark Planetarium. Seth?
Greetings and Happy Monday...
I am seeking a book/map/chart that I can use while stargazing with the scope. Here is what I would like in such a product:
a. Star charts - a full two page spread of each constellation with plenty of detail. b. No, none, zero, zip, zilch explanations of types of stars, black holes, planets, etc., etc. etc. I have plenty of books on those topics. c. Loose leaf, spiral bound, or folded. Something that will lay flat without busting the binding. d. No batteries, no keyboards, no screens, no antennas, no buttons, just paper.
I am new to astronomy but I expect my efforts will be along these lines: a. Zero, if any, scanning the skies hoping to find something (too much to find) b. Create an observation plan and work it. In other words, I expect to have specific targets in mind each night.
The book/map/chart I've described above will be used to find the target objects.
Now, while I am an engineer geek type, I am, also, a nostalgic old Geezer and I fancy myself hunting for objects the way they did before computers. To me, half the fun of looking at an object is finding it. Hey, I found M57 last night in nearly full moonlight. I did cheat a bit and used a green laser point mounted on my DOB. Smack dab dead on. I was impressed. Your mileage may vary.
Jim Harvey, aka...
-- Watch 'Yer Top Knot and Keep Your Powder Dry,
James Richard Harvey - The Wyoming Geezer The Great Curmudgeon AKA El Gran Cascarrabias AKA J. Peter Fudpucker Hunkered down on Planet Earth
"If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." *Juan Ramón Jiménez Mantecón (1881 - 1958), As quoted in the epigraph in **Fahrenheit 451* <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451>* (1953) by **Ray Bradbury * <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury>*;*
I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, - "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, - "That government is best which governs not at all"; *Henry David Thoreau - "Civil Disobedience"*
*NOTE TO NSA and DHS: *Nothing in this email is, in any way, either by subtle reference or direct statement, intended to be taken out of context as a threat to Homeland Security or the Thought Police. I am not the Droid you are looking for. Please tell the Ministry of Truth and the Messiah President Barack Hussein Obama II that I am one of the good guys and pray for a helping hand. Send checks to my address on file. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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Seth, There is a real romance and usefulness to the "old fashioned" star charts. I still use my Skalnate Pleso epoch 1950 charts. They work extremely well. They don't require charged batteries, and can be consulted in any location whether the internet is present or not, and you don't need to download an app. I'll take paper any time! The Tirion atlas seems to be the best at this time. It is my second choice only because I am more familiar with the S-P. My S-P is also autographed by John Dobson with a neat inscription. It also contains some interesting self mad scribbles on some of the charts. How do you do that on an iPad? Brent From: Seth Jarvis <SJarvis@slco.org> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way I agree with Roger on the usefulness of Dickson's book "Night Watch." The book has great star charts and it is a spiral-bound book. We sell hundreds of copies of that book here each year. I've lately taken to giving away a copy of the book to folks who buy their first telescope from us (if I happen to be the guy selling the telescope). That said, it doesn't sound like what Jim Harvey is looking for. Sounds like Jim is looking for old-school he-man hard-core star charts. Jim, I've gotta ask - you do know we're now well into the 21st Century, right? Have you seen what you can do with a laptop or an iPad where star charts are concerned? ;) I'll ask my store manager what he's seen along the lines of old-school hard-core start charts. If I find anything I'll post it here. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of erikhansen@thebluezone.net Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:29 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way
Tirion Sky Atlas probably the closest to your specs. Available from SkyPublishing and maybe the Clark Planetarium. Seth?
Seth, Brent beat me to the rebuttal, and I agree with him wholeheartedly. I too still use my Skalnate Pleso charts (purchased at the Hansen Planetarium in the early '70's and laminated for me by an old friend, woot!), along with the Millenium Star Atlas when I need to go deeper. I'm firmly in Jim's camp. The fewer electronic gizmos I have to take into the field translates into more time spent at the eyepiece, and less time screwing with technology that just doesn't save me any time. It's just a different way to go, and much less satisfying (and more energy-hungry). It also messes with your night vision- even when the screen is so dark and red that you can't see a damned thing on there anyway. Actually, the fewer items I take observing (period) almost always means fewer distractions and more time observing. I'm not a Luddite. I use technology every day, including 3-D design software (the same program most NASA contractors use to design space hardware- Solidworks-), but it's just not needed at the telescope unless one has a personality that demands it, or is perhaps imaging with hardware that requires a computer to manage the required tasks. Such technology is not intrinsically more efficient for the visual observer across the board. I still haven't found a good high-tech alternative that actually works for me better than paper charts and atlases. Like telescopes themselves, the best *informational medium* is the one you'll use most and are most comfortable with.
Fair enough. I hear what you're saying. If I can locate old-school high-detail star chats of that type and that we can stock in the store for you old-school guys, I'll sing out. Seth -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:26 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way Seth, Brent beat me to the rebuttal, and I agree with him wholeheartedly. I too still use my Skalnate Pleso charts (purchased at the Hansen Planetarium in the early '70's and laminated for me by an old friend, woot!), along with the Millenium Star Atlas when I need to go deeper. I'm firmly in Jim's camp. The fewer electronic gizmos I have to take into the field translates into more time spent at the eyepiece, and less time screwing with technology that just doesn't save me any time. It's just a different way to go, and much less satisfying (and more energy-hungry). It also messes with your night vision- even when the screen is so dark and red that you can't see a damned thing on there anyway. Actually, the fewer items I take observing (period) almost always means fewer distractions and more time observing. I'm not a Luddite. I use technology every day, including 3-D design software (the same program most NASA contractors use to design space hardware- Solidworks-), but it's just not needed at the telescope unless one has a personality that demands it, or is perhaps imaging with hardware that requires a computer to manage the required tasks. Such technology is not intrinsically more efficient for the visual observer across the board. I still haven't found a good high-tech alternative that actually works for me better than paper charts and atlases. Like telescopes themselves, the best *informational medium* is the one you'll use most and are most comfortable with. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".
You're a good man and terrific educator, Seth! On Jul 2, 2012 5:37 PM, "Seth Jarvis" <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Fair enough. I hear what you're saying. If I can locate old-school high-detail star chats of that type and that we can stock in the store for you old-school guys, I'll sing out.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:26 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way
Seth, Brent beat me to the rebuttal, and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
I too still use my Skalnate Pleso charts (purchased at the Hansen Planetarium in the early '70's and laminated for me by an old friend, woot!), along with the Millenium Star Atlas when I need to go deeper.
I'm firmly in Jim's camp. The fewer electronic gizmos I have to take into the field translates into more time spent at the eyepiece, and less time screwing with technology that just doesn't save me any time. It's just a different way to go, and much less satisfying (and more energy-hungry). It also messes with your night vision- even when the screen is so dark and red that you can't see a damned thing on there anyway.
Actually, the fewer items I take observing (period) almost always means fewer distractions and more time observing.
I'm not a Luddite. I use technology every day, including 3-D design software (the same program most NASA contractors use to design space hardware- Solidworks-), but it's just not needed at the telescope unless one has a personality that demands it, or is perhaps imaging with hardware that requires a computer to manage the required tasks. Such technology is not intrinsically more efficient for the visual observer across the board.
I still haven't found a good high-tech alternative that actually works for me better than paper charts and atlases.
Like telescopes themselves, the best *informational medium* is the one you'll use most and are most comfortable with. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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http://www.amazon.com/Sky-Atlas-2000-0-Wil-Tirion/dp/0933346875 It's what I use and love, it's big easy to see and no mumbo jumbo text, just star charts. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
You're a good man and terrific educator, Seth! On Jul 2, 2012 5:37 PM, "Seth Jarvis" <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Fair enough. I hear what you're saying. If I can locate old-school high-detail star chats of that type and that we can stock in the store for you old-school guys, I'll sing out.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:26 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way
Seth, Brent beat me to the rebuttal, and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
I too still use my Skalnate Pleso charts (purchased at the Hansen Planetarium in the early '70's and laminated for me by an old friend, woot!), along with the Millenium Star Atlas when I need to go deeper.
I'm firmly in Jim's camp. The fewer electronic gizmos I have to take into the field translates into more time spent at the eyepiece, and less time screwing with technology that just doesn't save me any time. It's just a different way to go, and much less satisfying (and more energy-hungry). It also messes with your night vision- even when the screen is so dark and red that you can't see a damned thing on there anyway.
Actually, the fewer items I take observing (period) almost always means fewer distractions and more time observing.
I'm not a Luddite. I use technology every day, including 3-D design software (the same program most NASA contractors use to design space hardware- Solidworks-), but it's just not needed at the telescope unless one has a personality that demands it, or is perhaps imaging with hardware that requires a computer to manage the required tasks. Such technology is not intrinsically more efficient for the visual observer across the board.
I still haven't found a good high-tech alternative that actually works for me better than paper charts and atlases.
Like telescopes themselves, the best *informational medium* is the one you'll use most and are most comfortable with. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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I should mention that when I'm really travelling light, I'm getting fond of the Sky & Telescope Pocket Sky Atlas. http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/skychart/3311296.html
for the most part, I carry one around in my head. It does need regular oil changes though.
I should mention that when I'm really travelling light, I'm getting fond
of the Sky & Telescope Pocket Sky Atlas.
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Geeze, Chuck. That is my "heavy duty" atlas! 73, lh On 7/3/2012 6:43 AM, Chuck Hards wrote:
I should mention that when I'm really travelling light, I'm getting fond of the Sky & Telescope Pocket Sky Atlas.
It used to be you had basically 2 types of amateur astronomers, visual and the photographers. Photography was the gizmos tech crowd, with goto the visual astronomers got drawn into the gizmo crowd. Anyway even with goto I still find the Tirion very useful, it does seem that all charts need some cross-referencing though. Stars can be labeled in different ways in different charts, as far as assigning numbers or the greek alphabet. Articles refer to a star as lamba to find in a chart it labeled as 10 (a made-up example just to demonstrate what I mean). Goto has been a boom for the manufacturers and generally a plus to all amateurs.
It is refreshing to hear of someone who wants to do it old school, my applause. On an unrelated note, has everyone bought their fire starter kits for the 4th yet? Please honor your firefighters along with the vets this 4th. You're a good man and terrific educator, Seth!
On Jul 2, 2012 5:37 PM, "Seth Jarvis" <SJarvis@slco.org> wrote:
Fair enough. I hear what you're saying. If I can locate old-school high-detail star chats of that type and that we can stock in the store for you old-school guys, I'll sing out.
Seth
-----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:26 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Seeking Detailed Star Charts or Finding Stars The Old Fashioned Way
Seth, Brent beat me to the rebuttal, and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
I too still use my Skalnate Pleso charts (purchased at the Hansen Planetarium in the early '70's and laminated for me by an old friend, woot!), along with the Millenium Star Atlas when I need to go deeper.
I'm firmly in Jim's camp. The fewer electronic gizmos I have to take into the field translates into more time spent at the eyepiece, and less time screwing with technology that just doesn't save me any time. It's just a different way to go, and much less satisfying (and more energy-hungry). It also messes with your night vision- even when the screen is so dark and red that you can't see a damned thing on there anyway.
Actually, the fewer items I take observing (period) almost always means fewer distractions and more time observing.
I'm not a Luddite. I use technology every day, including 3-D design software (the same program most NASA contractors use to design space hardware- Solidworks-), but it's just not needed at the telescope unless one has a personality that demands it, or is perhaps imaging with hardware that requires a computer to manage the required tasks. Such technology is not intrinsically more efficient for the visual observer across the board.
I still haven't found a good high-tech alternative that actually works for me better than paper charts and atlases.
Like telescopes themselves, the best *informational medium* is the one you'll use most and are most comfortable with. _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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Brent Watson -
Chuck Hards -
erikhansen＠thebluezone.net -
Howard -
James Harvey -
Larry Holmes -
Rodger C. Fry -
Seth Jarvis